Words are ghosts and ghosts are what shape this reality.

In the beginning was The Word..

I don't know much what to say about this, it's something that crossed my mind this morning.

It's like words are ghosts, do you speak ghosts?
How come words have meaning? Is this simply a process of evolution?

There must be some reality reflecting meaning of words.

Or is it simply because my mind consists out of words? of ghosts? of meanings?

Perhaps reality is a ghost.

I think language helps humans communicate and produce culture. The culture that you are in uses language to "program" you and your responses to certain situations, as well as habits, skills, knowledge, and more. There is so much to language, it's ridiculous. A lot of it seems to be subconscious.

As far as ghosts go, dead people are the ones who have most contributed to language and even the structures that it teaches us. So it is, in fact, inhabited by ghosts. Especially if you look at ghosts as imprints left on reality.

I think that culture is the ultimate organism. It lives as long as people "worship" it, so it outlives the regular human lifespan by quite a lot.

In my opinion, the cultural organism in a human society imprints information into words and letters and stores them on paper (or these days, electronics). It is similar to evolution, in that society evolves as it faces new situations and responds to them. Individual humans somehow have the ability to problem-solve and troubleshoot, and they compete, and the best solutions are stored in culture (such as writings).

This is very similar to regular evolution, where organisms compete and the ones that survive write their genes down in the genetic code.

The same thing that runs evolution seems to be running human culture due to the similarities of the MO.

Language is very similar to genetics in evolution. Language is definitely comprised of ghosts. Just my take. I think you are on to something.

a reply to: darkbake

Nice take on it. Thx for posting.

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

This is a really strong perspective and and about as classically accurate as one could get, in respect to philosophy.

Words are indeed ghosts, because it often doesn't matter the individual who spoke them, but more the time old old archetypes the words personify from, thereby creating the specter. Once actualized, this 'spirit' can then be summoned by the words it represents. The applications and examples are endless.

CHange " word " to " thought " and you'd be more close.

everything in our reality is affected by thought, even quantum physics and quantum entanglement, now how does that work with other dimensions? If thought controls reality, and quantum entanglement is a thing, then, can a thought interact with multiple realities at once?

a reply to: rexsblues

a reply to: Out6of9Balance
In my opinion, Terence McKenna had the most interesting perspective on language and its origin.
Video is 1 hour 20 min but I HIGHLY reccommend it
Or
This one's 7 minutes long and introduces some ideas nicely if you haven't heard them before:
I feel that, since all things appear to be simply forms of energy interacting at differing frequencies, language must also be a vibrational phenomenon and it is, simply converting vibrating vocal chords to air waves to ear biology to electrochemical to brain action potential...
But somewhere in there also appears to be an almost ethereal influence as well, quantum weirdness maybe?
Perhaps the weirdness of magic and supernature is behind the weirdness of quantum effects we still don't understand.

And as for ghosts, I'd heard a neat perspective about how brain wave energy could be captured in certain material like stone or wood, and resonate a frequency humans could detect athe way birds detect magnetism, and represented visually in an illusion just like how colors work.
The way infrasound work is similar. For instance when a tiger or lion growls, our ears detect low frequencies, too low to hear, but theyre felt and it triggers an anxiety or fear response. Earthquakes and trains passing can trigger anxiety the same way, or a feeling of uneasiness even if you can't hear what it is or where it is.
Perhaps this could help explain ghostly creeps and feelings of not being alone?
It's not there but its frequency is, and our brains interpret it visually from the surrounding. Interesting.

Super interesting thought. Def mind provoking. I mean if ghosts are reality than Ghostbusters are reality killers.


.then it continues to why.

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
In the beginning was The Word..

I don't know much what to say about this, it's something that crossed my mind this morning.

It's like words are ghosts, do you speak ghosts?
How come words have meaning? Is this simply a process of evolution?

There must be some reality reflecting meaning of words.

Or is it simply because my mind consists out of words? of ghosts? of meanings?

Perhaps reality is a ghost.

I, too, was thinking alot, about this topic, lately.

I would replace Ghost with Spirit.

The Bible uses word because humans understand words. It uses "word", as well, for another reason: If someone who is speaking different language reads the Bible, it is easy to get to the meaning in this way.
Of course, with a bit of Right thinking.

The Word is used as a symbol, but before you can speak a word (beside of having a mouth) you need to think.

So the real meaning is Thought, as few previous poster have stated.

The sentence "At the beginning was a word, and it was with God, and was God" states that there is no difference between them.

It points at, as well, how God creates. The Spirit of God had a Thought, and there is no difference between Spirit and Thought, part from that Spirit preceedes the Thought.

Ill leave it here, for now, even if i could write more about it.

a reply to: darkbake

Im reading your reply in Frieza's voice and i'm not disappointing.

is it relevant? probably not.

a reply to: Hombre

Thought as in mind?

Supposedly: this reality was, before the advent of words.
If that is right: then perhaps what we're looking for is beyond 'words', 'ghosts', or 'thoughts'?

'Beyond'; one or more levels above; one or more levels below; deeper; ...

It's hard to describe, because it is 'beyond' words.

But do understand the comments about how words contain some sort of 'potential', and that's interesting to think about.

Archaic is more like it imo.

Theres also the Logos, which can be applied in a similar way to the Word, even though today, logo's applies to symbols or brand names.

And since you mentioned evolution, which is very suspiciously atheist btw, here.

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

In the beginning there was thought.
Everything comes from thought.
You create what you think about.

a reply to: darkbake

As far as ghosts go, dead people are the ones who have most contributed to language and even the structures that it teaches us. So it is, in fact, inhabited by ghosts. Especially if you look at ghosts as imprints left on reality

There is an element of romance in this statement. 💖

originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
a reply to: Hombre

Thought as in mind?

Yes, the product of thinking, or, if it is better to understand, "an Idea".

It becomes easier to understand, when you recognize, that, everything you see in this world, started as an idea in someone's mind.

a reply to: Hombre

Is the sky a thought?
The world on the other hand is a concept... an idea... a thought.
The sky appears in plain sight. Whereas.... the world does not appear in plain sight.

a reply to: Out6of9Balance

There must be some reality reflecting meaning of words.

Yes, its called reality.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Out6of9Balance

In the beginning there was thought.
Everything comes from thought.
You create what you think about.

In the beginning there was no thing and then labels appeared that seem to divide the no thing into things.
This ever present image is the entire image.... not divided..... but words cannot speak about it so it gets split into before and after.
In the 'before and after' the dream of separation can seem to be real.

But there is only ever what is appearing.....the ever present ever changing one life.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Out6of9Balance

In the beginning there was thought.
Everything comes from thought.
You create what you think about.

It is only an idea that there is a thinker responsible for thought.

Thoughts simply just happen.... there isn't anyone 'in there' doing thought.

It just so happens that life can appear as thoughts.