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My grandfather was one of the lead engineers on both of those projects . Do you really think we didn't have help? If people knew that the Pleiadian and Orion Rebels helped us fight the Draco Orion empire that started to influence our government in the 1870's and eventually took over in 1991 for good, they'd go ape#.
originally posted by: ridgerunner
They used UFOs as a way to explain away aircraft like the U2 and SR71. Personally I suspect the same thing very well may be going on again.
originally posted by: LoneCloudHopper2
I find that a lot of these matters are manufactured to make people paranoid and mistrustful of their government
I just said, "Hey, I have an idea for a project, and this project, I think if it's done correctly, will reverse the cynicism that people have about government and what people have about the, frankly, the military industrial complex. I think that if I do this, places like this and other arms of the government would be happy that it got communicated.
originally posted by: Gothmog
All I read so far is just wishful thinking from science fiction enthusiasts.
originally posted by: angelchemuel
I have seen a 'UFO' which was very well documented, I have also experienced a 'close encounter' with another person. I don't want to say much more .......
originally posted by: LoneCloudHopper2
a reply to: The GUT
Yes, researchers of the supernatural have claimed to have been able to watch and record such evidence for quite some time now. Most likely, at least some of these were actually legitimate. There are a number of images on YT caught by thermal camera. Here's a vid:
originally posted by: Blue Shift
originally posted by: Gothmog
All I read so far is just wishful thinking from science fiction enthusiasts.
Well, the alternatives are few. If it's not science fiction, then the US (or their allies) has such astounding craft that anytime they send soldiers out to fight and die using conventional weapons they're essentially murdering these guys to keep the secret. If it's not the US, then our airspace security is a joke, we're defenseless and the only thing keeping us in business is a baffling lack of initiative by whoever built them. They're so powerful that we're insignificant to them.
Which one of these non-science fiction alternatives would you prefer?
originally posted by: xetex
a reply to: Spacespider
For the past 20 years I've heard that the government is preparing us for full disclosure.
Every year it's mentioned that it's coming soon, that the signs are out there now.
If you follow this for so long then you start to lose faith. This will blow over again and in a few months or years it will be a hot topic in the government again. Rinse repeat.
originally posted by: Gothmog
I don't prefer either.
I use logic , reason , and knowledge to reach a conclusion.
If it's not the US, then our airspace security is a joke, we're defenseless and the only thing keeping us in business is a baffling lack of initiative by whoever built them.
originally posted by: LSU2018
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Me, however, I've believed in UFO's since a dusk late Summer night in 1988 when I watched one hover just over the treeline and follow my mother and me and stop at our driveway when we pulled in.
originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: LoneCloudHopper2
I think the drones are secret military pilot-less test drones remotely controlled and more maneuverable because there's no human occupant who's head would explode from the high G turns. Seems more plausible by Occam's razor than extraterrestrials effing with us who are from millions of light years away.
So if they are military drones according to you, how can that be when history records talk about flying objects more than a 1000 years ago? And who knows or confirmed that ETs are from millions of light years away? Isn't there some stories about UFOs entering or exiting oceans and big lakes? They just might've been here all along living on this planet in a secretive way. Just an alternative to consider...edit on 2019pAmerica/Chicago7America/Chicago29America/Chicago19America/Chicago09 by openedeyesandears because: (no reason given)
originally posted by: MRinder
Seriously? Every single thing in the universe is survival of the fittest. If aliens could get here, which given the vast distances it is highly doubtful, they would most likely exterminate us like cockroaches.
originally posted by: Archivalist
a reply to: MRinder
Global government isn't a bad idea, if equally representing the entire "globe".
I think we can all say, without thinking twice, that no country is prepared to lead that initiative in a fair, unbiased, and impartial way.
It will need to be a completely new country, that never existed before. Perhaps, on a completely separate planet. A self sustaining Mars colony, can be impartial to Earth, if they don't have any skin in the Earth game.
They would be the most fair I can think of, that we will have in the relatively short term... Capable of unionizing the entire planet Earth under a single ideal, without corruption immediately ruining the trust.
AND global government is a horrible idea.