I think universal healthcare is stupid

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: BuckyWunderlick

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: BuckyWunderlick

More often than not universal healthcare is the stamp of a decadent society.

Quite the contrary, LesMis. It is the mark of a society that has risen to provide and ensure its populace is cared for.

How many have you cared for? You pay a tax. You neither provide or care for anyone. Instead you pretend.

I on the other hand do provide the care, what’s your point les?

It’s your job?

originally posted by: BuckyWunderlick

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: BuckyWunderlick

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: BuckyWunderlick

More often than not universal healthcare is the stamp of a decadent society.

Quite the contrary, LesMis. It is the mark of a society that has risen to provide and ensure its populace is cared for.

How many have you cared for? You pay a tax. You neither provide or care for anyone. Instead you pretend.

I on the other hand do provide the care, what’s your point les?

It’s your job?

Nurse by day superhero by night again what’s you point

What’s yours?

originally posted by: BuckyWunderlick

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: BuckyWunderlick

More often than not universal healthcare is the stamp of a decadent society.

Quite the contrary, LesMis. It is the mark of a society that has risen to provide and ensure its populace is cared for.

How many have you cared for? You pay a tax. You neither provide or care for anyone. Instead you pretend.

Tax is how societies pay for things they collectively decide on. Deciding that everyone deserves a minimum standard of healthcare is no.more decadentvthan deciding to have infrastructure or a military.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: BuckyWunderlick

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: BuckyWunderlick

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: BuckyWunderlick

More often than not universal healthcare is the stamp of a decadent society.

Quite the contrary, LesMis. It is the mark of a society that has risen to provide and ensure its populace is cared for.

How many have you cared for? You pay a tax. You neither provide or care for anyone. Instead you pretend.

I on the other hand do provide the care, what’s your point les?

It’s your job?

Nurse by day superhero by night again what’s you point

Nurse, eh? That’s something.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: BuckyWunderlick

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: BuckyWunderlick

More often than not universal healthcare is the stamp of a decadent society.

Quite the contrary, LesMis. It is the mark of a society that has risen to provide and ensure its populace is cared for.

How many have you cared for? You pay a tax. You neither provide or care for anyone. Instead you pretend.

Tax is how societies pay for things they collectively decide on. Deciding that everyone deserves a minimum standard of healthcare is no.more decadentvthan deciding to have infrastructure or a military.

Then You tell yourself you are ensuring others get healthcare, without actually ensuring others get healthcare.

You pay a tax. That’s the very least you can do for others.

originally posted by: BuckyWunderlick

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: BuckyWunderlick

More often than not universal healthcare is the stamp of a decadent society.

Quite the contrary, LesMis. It is the mark of a society that has risen to provide and ensure its populace is cared for.

Quite.

If making sure that everyone has access to medical care is decadent then sign me up for the decadence party.

You pay a tax. Telling yourself you are “making sure that everyone has access to medical care” is false, because you have done none of that. You get some money taken off your pay check. That’s the very least you can do for others.

Since I have no training or experience in healthcare what I can do is pay taxes to fund skilled people like Other side.

I dont think you have thought this point through.

a reply to: ScepticScot
from the NHS websight, that i quoted

originally posted by: BuckyWunderlick

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: BuckyWunderlick

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: BuckyWunderlick

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: BuckyWunderlick

More often than not universal healthcare is the stamp of a decadent society.

Quite the contrary, LesMis. It is the mark of a society that has risen to provide and ensure its populace is cared for.

How many have you cared for? You pay a tax. You neither provide or care for anyone. Instead you pretend.

I on the other hand do provide the care, what’s your point les?

It’s your job?

Nurse by day superhero by night again what’s you point

Nurse, eh? That’s something.

It sure is what’s ur point?

originally posted by: BuckyWunderlick

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: BuckyWunderlick

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: BuckyWunderlick

More often than not universal healthcare is the stamp of a decadent society.

Quite the contrary, LesMis. It is the mark of a society that has risen to provide and ensure its populace is cared for.

How many have you cared for? You pay a tax. You neither provide or care for anyone. Instead you pretend.

Tax is how societies pay for things they collectively decide on. Deciding that everyone deserves a minimum standard of healthcare is no.more decadentvthan deciding to have infrastructure or a military.

Then You tell yourself you are ensuring others get healthcare, without actually ensuring others get healthcare.

You pay a tax. That’s the very least you can do for others.

I also don't build roads, arrest people, fight fires etc.

Do you really think things would be better if we all did these things individually?

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: BuckyWunderlick

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: BuckyWunderlick

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: BuckyWunderlick

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: BuckyWunderlick

More often than not universal healthcare is the stamp of a decadent society.

Quite the contrary, LesMis. It is the mark of a society that has risen to provide and ensure its populace is cared for.

How many have you cared for? You pay a tax. You neither provide or care for anyone. Instead you pretend.

I on the other hand do provide the care, what’s your point les?

It’s your job?

Nurse by day superhero by night again what’s you point

Nurse, eh? That’s something.

It sure is what’s ur point?

You brought it up.

a reply to: BuckyWunderlick

Ahhh good old les....

originally posted by: dubiousatworst
a reply to: ScepticScot
from the NHS websight, that i quoted

A section you added in after I replied and doesn't even remotely back up your claim.

I find myself asking again where do you get this crap from?

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: BuckyWunderlick

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: BuckyWunderlick

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: BuckyWunderlick

More often than not universal healthcare is the stamp of a decadent society.

Quite the contrary, LesMis. It is the mark of a society that has risen to provide and ensure its populace is cared for.

How many have you cared for? You pay a tax. You neither provide or care for anyone. Instead you pretend.

Tax is how societies pay for things they collectively decide on. Deciding that everyone deserves a minimum standard of healthcare is no.more decadentvthan deciding to have infrastructure or a military.

Then You tell yourself you are ensuring others get healthcare, without actually ensuring others get healthcare.

You pay a tax. That’s the very least you can do for others.

I also don't build roads, arrest people, fight fires etc.

Do you really think things would be better if we all did these things individually?

Imagine if people got together and built roads, arrested people, fought fires? Imagine if people provided healthcare for the ill?

You wouldn’t need to pay a tax.

My argument is getting the government to do all this for is a mark of decadence, that it absolves you from an responsibility to your community and fellow man.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: BuckyWunderlick

Ahhh good old les....

What?

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: BuckyWunderlick

Ahhh good old les....

Canadian healthcare must be better than I thought as it keeps resurrecting a departed poster...

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: BuckyWunderlick

Ahhh good old les....

Canadian healthcare must be better than I thought as it keeps resurrecting a departed poster...

Much better than the nhs remember poor Cornish?

a reply to: ScepticScot

Maybe just maybe I had a family friend in Scotland (in Ayre) that went through just that. He was offered by my family full room and board and even payment for the care that was available for his condition in the US. But because he was over 70 at the time his "expected" life was lower, and he was put into the quoted care system. AKA denied care that would have kept him alive and healthy. The fella was too proud to admit that NHS failed him, and said no to my family's offer.

originally posted by: BuckyWunderlick

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: BuckyWunderlick

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: BuckyWunderlick

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: BuckyWunderlick

More often than not universal healthcare is the stamp of a decadent society.

Quite the contrary, LesMis. It is the mark of a society that has risen to provide and ensure its populace is cared for.

How many have you cared for? You pay a tax. You neither provide or care for anyone. Instead you pretend.

Tax is how societies pay for things they collectively decide on. Deciding that everyone deserves a minimum standard of healthcare is no.more decadentvthan deciding to have infrastructure or a military.

Then You tell yourself you are ensuring others get healthcare, without actually ensuring others get healthcare.

You pay a tax. That’s the very least you can do for others.

I also don't build roads, arrest people, fight fires etc.

Do you really think things would be better if we all did these things individually?

Imagine if people got together and built roads, arrested people, fought fires? Imagine if people provided healthcare for the ill?

You wouldn’t need to pay a tax.

My argument is getting the government to do all this for is a mark of decadence, that it absolves you from an responsibility to your community and fellow man.

Yes let's imagine.

People dying of preventable diseases, vigilante justice and dirt tracks.

No thanks, I like taxes and civilisation.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: BuckyWunderlick

Ahhh good old les....

Canadian healthcare must be better than I thought as it keeps resurrecting a departed poster...

Can’t make it through an argument without calling others names. I’m American.

originally posted by: BuckyWunderlick

originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: BuckyWunderlick

More often than not universal healthcare is the stamp of a decadent society.

Quite the contrary, LesMis. It is the mark of a society that has risen to provide and ensure its populace is cared for.

How many have you cared for? You pay a tax. You neither provide or care for anyone. Instead you pretend.

I do pay a tax. Which (should) allow for people to be taken care of by the most qualified to do so, and not the mechanic or baker down the street. Nothing pretend about that, LeMis.