U.S. Citizen Detained For Weeks, Nearly Deported By Immigration Officials

originally posted by: Aazadan

So you tell me. What crime was he committing? What justified him being locked up? What was the case the state had to charge him? Suspicion of being illegal is not a crime.

I have seen stories of several people like this, citizens in cars with illegals.

Didnt do your research, homie.

1907. TITLE 8, U.S.C. 1324(A) OFFENSES

a reply to: KnoxMSP

That would apply if he was driving them, and if that's the case, simply charging someone with that implies that you already recognize they're a citizen or at least, is here legally. So putting them in one of those camps for 3 weeks and starving them certainly isn't justified, if it's justified for anyone in the first place.

People are going into these camps and not coming out, even when they're well beyond capacity. Now we learn that in addition to the other issues people are literally being starved. Wake up as to what's happening.

And again this could have all been avoided had his mother simply NOT falsified documents.
How that point keeps being overlooked I will never understand.
It sucks that he was detained, but it is his MOTHERS fault and no one elses.
Funny how all the excuses are given to justify criminal behavior but no excuses for the leos...........

originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: KnoxMSP

That would apply if he was driving them, and if that's the case, simply charging someone with that implies that you already recognize they're a citizen or at least, is here legally.

They had reasonable cause for him to be detained and questioned. He is transporting, or in the trabsportation of illegals, and his papers dont match up. That's the cause of this.

Dont ride with illegals, and if your parents did some questionable stuff with your legal documents, get them fixed.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: shooterbrody

Sure. Let's blame the mom and not the fact that ICE agents didn't follow proper protocol.

Well, she did obtain a Visa for her son and for this Visa claimed he was born in MEXICO... and used an assumed (fake) name on his birth certificate... and the guys brother who was with him was not a Citizen and was here illegally.

So, yeah, I kind of blame the mother for the confusion here, and it certainly didn't help that his own brother who is not a Citizen and was here illegally was with him, that would certainly lead officers to assume he was also here illegally.

Oh - and as for the guy in your second link... it sure didn't help his situation that he had lived most of his life in Mexico, and couldn't even speak English. Probably an anchor baby that went back to Mexico soon after he was born. Another good reason to abolish birthright citizenship and revoke recent ones (say the last 5 years).

That said, people in this kind of situation should absolutely be allowed phone calls, and should be allowed to hire attorneys, and should never, ever be unduly coerced into signing deportation documents.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

*scoff*

Two were here illegally so why wouldn't you detain a Hispanic looking one? It's not hard to tell the difference between Hispanics and whites. He was also released, so why exactly is there a thread crying about this? Oh yeah, Trump bad.

a reply to: LSU2018

Two were here illegally so why wouldn't you detain a Hispanic looking one? It's not hard to tell the difference between Hispanics and whites.

Glad to know you're in favor of racial profiling.

"You're look Hispanic. Proof of citizenship/papers, please."

a reply to: Liquesence

Were they not in one of those designated immigration stop zones?
I dont like them either

Stiil doesnt excuse falsifying documents

originally posted by: cognizant420
a reply to: Xcalibur254

If our government was doing there job this wouldnt even be an issue. You can thank the Democrats for the profiling, if they would work across the isle to fix the border this would nEver have happened.

Do you really believe execution problems are only an issue because of Democrats? Did you know that Obama deported more people than Trump? www.axios.com... The even more disturbing thing is that Obama focused on the criminals and deported a far higher number of them, while Trump is focused on rhetoric and low hanging fruit and appears to be leaving more criminals in the U.S. But, don't let the facts get in the way of your beliefs.

originally posted by: shooterbrody
And again this could have all been avoided had his mother simply NOT falsified documents.
How that point keeps being overlooked I will never understand.
It sucks that he was detained, but it is his MOTHERS fault and no one elses.
Funny how all the excuses are given to justify criminal behavior but no excuses for the leos...........

So tell me this. Even if I were to grant your point that he should be locked up for a crime his mother committed rather than him. Does that in any way justify starving him in order to convince him to deport himself?

He lost 27 pounds in 23 days. If they're doing that to one, they're doing that to more than one. One of the hallmarks of our justice system is no cruel and unusual punishment. Starvation is not only cruel, but most prisons (outside of things like what Joe Arpaio ran, which he also bragged were concentration camps) do not starve prisoners as a policy, in fact they go the opposite route, because a fed population is docile.

Do you support rounding up brown people who may or may not be citizens and starving them? It's a simple question and you have so far dodged the comment at every point.

originally posted by: KnoxMSP

originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: KnoxMSP

That would apply if he was driving them, and if that's the case, simply charging someone with that implies that you already recognize they're a citizen or at least, is here legally.

They had reasonable cause for him to be detained and questioned. He is transporting, or in the trabsportation of illegals, and his papers dont match up. That's the cause of this.

Dont ride with illegals, and if your parents did some questionable stuff with your legal documents, get them fixed.

And what's the reasonable cause for starvation?

a reply to: Aazadan

I dont really care what you grant.
The individual was detained until his identification could be ascertained.

It is easy dont forge identification documentation.
Also the person in question was fed 3 times a day.
That in no way is starvation.
Your "question" does not deal with the actual facts.
It does betray your agenda.

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Aazadan

I dont really care what you grant.
The individual was detained until his identification could be ascertained.

It is easy dont forge identification documentation.
Also the person in question was fed 3 times a day.
That in no way is starvation.
Your "question" does not deal with the actual facts.
It does betray your agenda.

You cannot lose 27 pounds in 23 days if you are being fed. Especially when there is no opportunity to exercise or otherwise be active.

Also, he didn't forge anything. So why should he be punished for what others did?

a reply to: Aazadan

The person detained said so in the op.
Perhaps you should read the source before jumping to conclusions.
Or do you know more about the situation than the one who was detained?
He wasnt " punished" he was detained until his identity could be verified.

a reply to: shooterbrody

Being detained is punishment. Detained for a month means you lose your job, you miss rent and lose your home, you miss your bills and wreck your credit.

a reply to: Aazadan

Being detained is punishment.

no
it is simply not
sorry

again this would not have happened had documents not been falsified
that fact being missed seems intentional

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Aazadan

Being detained is punishment.

no
it is simply not
sorry

again this would not have happened had documents not been falsified
that fact being missed seems intentional

Indefinite detention is a punishment. In fact, it isn't even legal in the US because we consider it too extreme a punishment. The only reason this person was ever released, was that the case hit the media.

a reply to: Aazadan

It wasnt " indefinite "
Nice try tho
Come back and try again tomorrow

You know
Had his mom not made a fake birth certificate saying he was mexican this would not have happened

a reply to: shooterbrody

So generations of punishment, with that punishment being jailed and starved until you self deport or they arbitrarily decide to release you for a crime you didn’t commit.

Got it.

a reply to: Aazadan

Hahaha
Now it is " generations" of punishment?
Lol
Dramatic poster is dramatic
Nice try

The kids mom is a butthole
Not the authorities