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Tell me, if every Scotsman who voted SNP in the last elections voted Labour instead, would the Tories have won?
originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: Xabi87
No we got the tories thanks to the millions of idiots in England who vote based on their wallets
rather than with logic , reason, or compassion for their fellow man .
We keep getting tories who start something , everyone gets involved then they jack it
joining the EU , then brexit , both tories policies
why the tories keep winning
originally posted by: sapien82
we can go be independent if we like ,
originally posted by: Xabi87
Tell me, if every Scotsman who voted SNP in the last elections voted Labour instead, would the Tories have won?
originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: Xabi87
No we got the tories thanks to the millions of idiots in England who vote based on their wallets
rather than with logic , reason, or compassion for their fellow man .
We keep getting tories who start something , everyone gets involved then they jack it
joining the EU , then brexit , both tories policies
why the tories keep winning
The UK has basically been a two party country for yonks, it's always been Labour or Tories and EVERYONE knows this. Then suddenly the Scottish start voting SNP for selfish reasons which weakened the Labour vote, which in turn strengthened the Tory vote.
So its the Scottish who are the idiots who voted selfishly with their wallets, rather than logic, not giving a # about the rest of the UK.
Exactly, you guys voted for SNP representatives instead of Labour... hence you voting SNP over labour. If you want the Tories out you vote Labour, not a Scottish party that can do squat, it's a wasted vote. # all the pretend outrage over Iraq, all governments are #s, you just have to pick the #s that look after us better.
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
originally posted by: Xabi87
Tell me, if every Scotsman who voted SNP in the last elections voted Labour instead, would the Tories have won?
originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: Xabi87
No we got the tories thanks to the millions of idiots in England who vote based on their wallets
rather than with logic , reason, or compassion for their fellow man .
We keep getting tories who start something , everyone gets involved then they jack it
joining the EU , then brexit , both tories policies
why the tories keep winning
The UK has basically been a two party country for yonks, it's always been Labour or Tories and EVERYONE knows this. Then suddenly the Scottish start voting SNP for selfish reasons which weakened the Labour vote, which in turn strengthened the Tory vote.
So its the Scottish who are the idiots who voted selfishly with their wallets, rather than logic, not giving a # about the rest of the UK.
Thats not how voting works.
You vote for the member of parliament to represent your views in Westminster as a constituency. 35 of those went to the SNP. Its not selfish its representative of the views of the nation of Scotland who are pissed off with Westminster. You don't vote for some group of arse holes that dragged you into an illegal war just to keep the other group of arse holes out of power. In Scotland we have a choice, we don't need to support the idiots in Westminster we have an alternative and thats who we voted for.
I voted remain in the last referendum on Scottish independence, ask me now I would vote leave as a nation we are pissed off with Westminster. Westminster is not representative of the Scottish people, only 9000 Scots actually took part in voting for Boris. 9000 out of 5.4 Million.
Now before anyone wants to tell me that, thats just how our system works I totally get that, but that doesn't really make it right though, I mean in a democracy where you have only 9000 people of your nation have a say in who the next leader of that state is gong to be its a bit off....
Brexit is going to come to down to this I believe, it will either be no-brexit or no-union.
Scotlands right to self-determination is being undermined as a nation we voted to remain yet we are being dragged out of the EU kicking and screaming by a man who was voted in by only 9000 of us.
If you're going to tell me thats just how our system works then I say, yes, that is how our system works and its clearly #ed up so we want out.
originally posted by: Xabi87
Exactly, you guys voted for SNP representatives instead of Labour... hence you voting SNP over labour. If you want the Tories out you vote Labour, not a Scottish party that can do squat, it's a wasted vote. # all the pretend outrage over Iraq, all governments are #s, you just have to pick the #s that look after us better.
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
originally posted by: Xabi87
Tell me, if every Scotsman who voted SNP in the last elections voted Labour instead, would the Tories have won?
originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: Xabi87
No we got the tories thanks to the millions of idiots in England who vote based on their wallets
rather than with logic , reason, or compassion for their fellow man .
We keep getting tories who start something , everyone gets involved then they jack it
joining the EU , then brexit , both tories policies
why the tories keep winning
The UK has basically been a two party country for yonks, it's always been Labour or Tories and EVERYONE knows this. Then suddenly the Scottish start voting SNP for selfish reasons which weakened the Labour vote, which in turn strengthened the Tory vote.
So its the Scottish who are the idiots who voted selfishly with their wallets, rather than logic, not giving a # about the rest of the UK.
Thats not how voting works.
You vote for the member of parliament to represent your views in Westminster as a constituency. 35 of those went to the SNP. Its not selfish its representative of the views of the nation of Scotland who are pissed off with Westminster. You don't vote for some group of arse holes that dragged you into an illegal war just to keep the other group of arse holes out of power. In Scotland we have a choice, we don't need to support the idiots in Westminster we have an alternative and thats who we voted for.
I voted remain in the last referendum on Scottish independence, ask me now I would vote leave as a nation we are pissed off with Westminster. Westminster is not representative of the Scottish people, only 9000 Scots actually took part in voting for Boris. 9000 out of 5.4 Million.
Now before anyone wants to tell me that, thats just how our system works I totally get that, but that doesn't really make it right though, I mean in a democracy where you have only 9000 people of your nation have a say in who the next leader of that state is gong to be its a bit off....
Brexit is going to come to down to this I believe, it will either be no-brexit or no-union.
Scotlands right to self-determination is being undermined as a nation we voted to remain yet we are being dragged out of the EU kicking and screaming by a man who was voted in by only 9000 of us.
If you're going to tell me thats just how our system works then I say, yes, that is how our system works and its clearly #ed up so we want out.
I am getting it, i know that you don't want it. But your reasons for it are silly. You ain't no different than the rest of us so why do you think you should be allowed to just throw ya toys outta the pram?
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
originally posted by: Xabi87
Exactly, you guys voted for SNP representatives instead of Labour... hence you voting SNP over labour. If you want the Tories out you vote Labour, not a Scottish party that can do squat, it's a wasted vote. # all the pretend outrage over Iraq, all governments are #s, you just have to pick the #s that look after us better.
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
originally posted by: Xabi87
Tell me, if every Scotsman who voted SNP in the last elections voted Labour instead, would the Tories have won?
originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: Xabi87
No we got the tories thanks to the millions of idiots in England who vote based on their wallets
rather than with logic , reason, or compassion for their fellow man .
We keep getting tories who start something , everyone gets involved then they jack it
joining the EU , then brexit , both tories policies
why the tories keep winning
The UK has basically been a two party country for yonks, it's always been Labour or Tories and EVERYONE knows this. Then suddenly the Scottish start voting SNP for selfish reasons which weakened the Labour vote, which in turn strengthened the Tory vote.
So its the Scottish who are the idiots who voted selfishly with their wallets, rather than logic, not giving a # about the rest of the UK.
Thats not how voting works.
You vote for the member of parliament to represent your views in Westminster as a constituency. 35 of those went to the SNP. Its not selfish its representative of the views of the nation of Scotland who are pissed off with Westminster. You don't vote for some group of arse holes that dragged you into an illegal war just to keep the other group of arse holes out of power. In Scotland we have a choice, we don't need to support the idiots in Westminster we have an alternative and thats who we voted for.
I voted remain in the last referendum on Scottish independence, ask me now I would vote leave as a nation we are pissed off with Westminster. Westminster is not representative of the Scottish people, only 9000 Scots actually took part in voting for Boris. 9000 out of 5.4 Million.
Now before anyone wants to tell me that, thats just how our system works I totally get that, but that doesn't really make it right though, I mean in a democracy where you have only 9000 people of your nation have a say in who the next leader of that state is gong to be its a bit off....
Brexit is going to come to down to this I believe, it will either be no-brexit or no-union.
Scotlands right to self-determination is being undermined as a nation we voted to remain yet we are being dragged out of the EU kicking and screaming by a man who was voted in by only 9000 of us.
If you're going to tell me thats just how our system works then I say, yes, that is how our system works and its clearly #ed up so we want out.
Yup you're not quite getting this, we don't want any part of Westminster, that is why we are voting for the SNP. Its not that we don't want labour and we don't want the tories, its actually that we we don't want to be part of the cash for peerages,MP's expenses illegal wars, nuclear weapons, Brexit, cover up for pedo's system that is Westminster. WE WANT OUT.
A vote for Labour or a vote for the Tories is the same thing to a lot of us.
IMO, thanks to TV programming over the years, bringing out all those crappy benefit cheat shows a lot of working class people with jobs started thinking they're middle class and stupidly voted Tory too.
originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: Xabi87
I will relieve you of that worry right now
I do not equate Tory with English
I equate Tory with - rich people who are classist because they have been indoctrinated by generations of conservative propaganda which makes them believe they are a cut above everyone else in the UK
conservative exceptionalism , isnt any different than British exceptionalism , and what happened when the British empire engaged in exceptionalism they deemed every nation they met as barbaric savages who were not worth anything than being slaves to the empire.
The rest of the working class , are just that, we are slaves to the rest of the elite and the rich people of the UK
we create all of the wealth , and they take it from us
we are the ones who make Britain strong , not them!
But Britain is a shadow of its former self and only nothing but a name .
It's time we take our countries back from these people
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: M5xaz
Dude quote me saying that because of Putin Boris won the Conservative party leadership context...
Quote me or shut up.
Not implying it, not joking about Vlad, Daddy trump and Boris sitting in a room together but actually saying that.
My god your lot are morons!
originally posted by: ADSE255
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Why, he reminds me of Trump. Well done UK. It seems that the clock is ticking backward. The great undoing. This seems to be a world movement right now among Leaders, The previous being cast away.
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
originally posted by: ADSE255
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Why, he reminds me of Trump. Well done UK. It seems that the clock is ticking backward. The great undoing. This seems to be a world movement right now among Leaders, The previous being cast away.
Well done Uk???
He was voted in by 90,000 people, the rest of us don’t get a say
It’s a victory only for him not for the uk