Damn, is [Attorney General] Bill Barr Corrupt Also?

Be still my heart... is it too good to be true? Is it possible that the faithful are beginning to see through the smoke and mirrors?

Damn, is Bill Barr Corrupt Also? – DOJ Files New ‘Last Minute’ Motion to Keep Comey FBI Memo Content Hidden From Public…

This is from the Conservative Treehouse, not a website I usually visit, but this got my attention. If the Conservative Treehouse is finally seeing the light, there may be hope yet!!!

In our opinion the content of the diary by former FBI Director James Comey, as outlined in what has formally been called “The Comey Memos”, is devastating to the U.S. Department of Justice and FBI. How do we know? Because the FBI is fighting like hell to keep even descriptions of the memo(s) content from becoming public... [snip]... This DOJ activity does not bode well for a narrative of Bill Barr is an honest broker. This is an example of how to cover-up material that is damaging to the institution.

Ya think???

What I don't understand is why anyone ever thought otherwise. He's a fixer. He protects the guilty. It's not a secret.

The Conservative Treehouse kinda sorta tries to give Barr an out, but actually just makes it worse:

To be fair, Attorney General Bill Barr may not be aware the United States Department of Justice Civil Division, Federal Programs Branch, is fighting this court ordered release.

However, the DOJ Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Division is Jody Hunt. That name might be familiar to you because Jody Hunt was Jeff Sessions former chief-of-staff.

Asst. AG Jody Hunt most certainly knows his office is fighting to keep the FBI descriptions of the Comey memos hidden from the public.

Barr knows what's going on. Nothing is happening without his knowledge and approval.

There is much more at the link regarding all the whys and wherefores of Comey memos in question -- legal maneuverings, court filings, politicking, etc.

Trump may or may not have realized just who and what Barr really is when he choose Barr for the postion: Trump startled by cozy Barr-Mueller relationship. I really don't know.

But I want to re-visit Ruby Ridge... and the government assassination of Vicki Weaver... and Bill Barr's role in protecting the killer:

Ruby Ridge: 20 years later, Randy Weaver's daughter lives in peace

KALISPELL, Mont. -- When Sara Weaver saw her father Randy struck in the shoulder by a government sniper's bullet in the Idaho wilderness in August 1992, she began to sprint back to the family's cabin on a mountaintop called Ruby Ridge.

As the 16-year-old closed in, her mother, Vicki, opened the cabin door and stood behind it, holding Sara Weaver's 10-month-old sister in her arms. Just then, a sniper's bullet struck her mother in the head, killing her.

For the next nine days, the surviving Weavers holed up in the cabin while hundreds of federal agents laid siege in a standoff that helped spark an anti-government patriot movement that grew to include the Oklahoma City bombing.

Vicki Weaver, unarmed, holding her infant daughter, killed in cold blood in the door of her home by a government sniper. I wonder what her now grown daughter thinks of William Barr helping her mothers killer go free?

Trump’s New Attorney General Defended FBI Sniper in Ruby Ridge Massacre
IDAHO v. HORIUCHI

While this may be the most egregious -- in my opinion -- of Barr's past deeds, it's just the tip of the iceberg.

Trump’s AG William Barr a CIA Drug Dealing Assassin & Ruby Ridge & Mueller Connections & Alfa Bank

Some more intriguing connections (and suggestions) are made here: Barr starts his own probe to takedown Trump

I have no doubt that Barr is doing everything he can to protect the guilty -- NOT bring the guilty to justice. Which leaves me with two questions:
1) Which of the guilty is Barr protecting?
2) What does Trump know and when did he know it?

You know, or you just believe now because your opinions are easily swayed by third parties??
It is not your fault you know, an aerosol chemical was quietly invented in 2006 that works on a similar level as sodium penthonol or whatever the truth serum used by interrogators during sensitive intelligence gathering. Just having it in a room of control subject made them easily suggestable and more gullible to any story peddled to them. I suspect this has been weaponized and spread over the North American and European population over the last decade. There was an ats thread on it from 2006 I believe, never been able to find it again.

It was very successful.

There is a possibility that it needs te be hidden for a while for ongoig investigations. Like for example the Durham investigation.

For now, I tend to give Barr the benefit of the doubt. Let’s wait and see what the IG report will say and what the actions of Barr will be (arrests?) surrounding that.

Barr has always been dirty. Which is why he was selected as the current A.G.

a reply to: worldstarcountry

Um... did you mean to post this to me on the tree thread?

If so, my response is that historical records supplement what I have seen within my own lifetime. I'm old. I have the benefit of experience.

And I'm still waiting for that global cooling they promised before the global warming

a reply to: Boadicea

Good post! I always was skeptical towards Barr because of the Ruby Ridge incident. In the back of my mind I wondered how Barr could ever expose the Deep State plot to bring down Trump's presidency, when he was knee deep in the Deep State swamp.

originally posted by: Goedhardt
There is a possibility that it needs te be hidden for a while for ongoig investigations. Like for example the Durham investigation.

Nope. No such possibility, neither in practice nor in theory. Barr knows everything he needs to know. ALL the critters know all they need to know. There have been whistleblowers out the wazoo for years, spilling their guts only to be prosecuted and/or persecuted by government... there have been congressional investigations and inspector general investigations and intelligence investigations and special prosecutors and every other conceivable investigation that drag on indefinitely and ultimately end with the prosecution and/or persecution of low-level fall guys and scapegoats AT MOST. So there is no need for any further investigations.

More important, sunshine is the best disinfectant. Give us the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth and we'll figure it out. Our Constitution and its Bill of Rights DEMANDS that government prove themselves and their actions all the time and every time, with an open and transparent government. It is exactly this secrecy and cover of darkness that enables the corruption and criminality to thrive. Truth and transparency is the first and most important step in cleaning out the corruption.

For now, I tend to give Barr the benefit of the doubt. Let’s wait and see what the IG report will say and what the actions of Barr will be (arrests?) surrounding that.

I don't give the benefit of the doubt to people who have already proven themselves unworthy multiple times. And I don't ever give the benefit of the doubt to government. Indeed, it's my civic and moral duty to not just question government but to also demand accountability from government.

And the proof is in the pudding. Barr is still protecting the guilty and hiding the truth from the people. Trump gave Barr carte blanche to release this information. He has chosen not to. He has chosen to fight in court to keep it secret from the people.

It is what it is.

originally posted by: underwerks
Barr has always been dirty.

Yup. As long as he's been on my radar.

Which is why he was selected as the current A.G.

Have you ever read anything about why Trump chose Barr? Maybe who recommended him? Something or anything? I did a half-hearted search but nothing came up. Just the previous article I posted about Trump being surprised Barr and Mueller are buddies.

originally posted by: shawmanfromny
a reply to: Boadicea

Good post! I always was skeptical towards Barr because of the Ruby Ridge incident.

A kindred spirit!!! That has stuck in my craw since it happened... what's it been now? Almost 30 years now.

In the back of my mind I wondered how Barr could ever expose the Deep State plot to bring down Trump's presidency, when he was knee deep in the Deep State swamp.

Exactly. There was a part of me really REALLY hoping that he'd surprise me, but that didn't happen. Just same old same old. He's walking like the same old duck and quacking like the same old duck.

I really don't know if Trump realized it though. More important, does Trump know it now?

a reply to: Boadicea

I really don't know if Trump realized it though. More important, does Trump know it now?

There are so many two faced, dishonest people working in Washington, how the heck can anyone, let alone the President, be confident on the allegiance and loyalty of someone? The Deep State tentacles are spread out everywhere in Washington. Who the heck can you trust?

a reply to: shawmanfromny

There are so many two faced, dishonest people working in Washington, how the heck can anyone, let alone the President, be confident on the allegiance and loyalty of someone? The Deep State tentacles are spread out everywhere in Washington. Who the heck can you trust?

Yes -- definitely! At this point, no one makes it up the ladder in DC without being corrupt. No one. One of the few reasons that I don't lump Trump in with the rest of them is because he didn't rise up the DC ladder... he went straight to the top with the vote of the people.

It doesn't mean Trump is therefore not corrupt, it just means that I'm not lumping him in with the definitely corrupt yet. But he is playing more games than I'd like -- for "leverage" -- so that takes points away from Trump in my book.

On the other hand, if Trump unilaterally released everything for public consumption, and let the chips fall where they may, I'd probably be his biggest cheerleader!

Its the jump to conclusions game at this point, since we are on the outside looking in we will need more data points to make an accurate assessment.

Is he dirty probably anyone that has been in DC for decades is extremely dirty... also possible even while being dirty he is on board with trumps plan... which could be for the good of the nation... could be to take it down only time will tell.

Honestly what trump wants is irrelevant until such a time as people stop voting by who has a D or an R next to their name and start voting those crooks out of office.

The worst place to put evidence anymore is in the court of public opinion .

I would do the same and keep my cards close to my chest .

a reply to: Irishhaf

We have to do more. We have to stop trusting anyone and thinking we just have to vote the right people or better people or whatever people into office. We have to claw that power back for ourselves.

Like the Citizen's Grand Jury, with full investigatory, subpoena and prosecutorial powers.

Citizens' Grand Juries Are the Only Way to Get Justice

Time to Resurrect Citizens' Grand Juries

originally posted by: Fallingdown
The worst place to put evidence anymore is in the court of public opinion .

Well golly gee! Whatever were the founding fathers thinking...

I would do the same and keep my cards close to my chest .

So "justice" for thee but not for we?

That's not justice. That's not in the American Spirit. That's not what the Constitution is supposed to protect and defend.

That's just power. And we all know that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

a reply to: Boadicea

I truly hope not, but we should always be sceptical. It’s just astonishing how connected to one another all these swamp dwellers are.

The FBI and Justice dept has how many employees? Yet the same little coterie of individuals have their names over everything from the Clinton investigation, the Russia hoax, and the Mueller investigation, and probably a great deal more.

originally posted by: MickyKnox
a reply to: Boadicea

I truly hope not, but we should always be sceptical. It’s just astonishing how connected to one another all these swamp dwellers are.

The FBI and Justice dept has how many employees? Yet the same little coterie of individuals have their names over everything from the Clinton investigation, the Russia hoax, and the Mueller investigation, and probably a great deal more.

That's exactly what I'm seeing -- exactly! It is so insidious and incestuous and predictable. The same names, again and again, and the same stories and scandals and corruption.

I've been trying to put together a thread with a chronology of the various whistleblowers and targets in all the spying operations during Obama's years, and it's the same thing: The same names and people involved in the same dramas.

It's all just sooooooooo dirty.

a reply to: Boadicea

As long as the majority of the country continues to trust that the Dems are better than the repubs... or vice versa and blindly votes for someone based on a letter next to their name there is little that can be done.


Worrying to much about Barr to me is the same as worrying about a paper cut when you have a sucking chest wound. (chest wound being the corrupt and useless congress)

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: Boadicea

As long as the majority of the country continues to trust that the Dems are better than the repubs... or vice versa and blindly votes for someone based on a letter next to their name there is little that can be done.

Worrying to much about Barr to me is the same as worrying about a paper cut when you have a sucking chest wound. (chest wound being the corrupt and useless congress)

Hence why I said that we need to do more. We need to claw the power back.

If we had Citizen Grand juries again, with full investigatory, subpoena, and charging powers, then we wouldn't have to trust the corrupt critters in DC... we wouldn't have to wonder if the right people are being prosecuted... and we wouldn't have to wonder if the wrong people are being protected.

I would say that worrying about who we elect is the same as worrying about a paper cut when we have a sucking chest wound. The critters have too much power, power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. We cannot put our trust in critters to do what's right. We have to take the power back and put our trust in ourselves.

a reply to: Boadicea

I thought Comey's memos were all classified, and that's why people were upset that he gave one or two to a fellow, who then shared their content with the media. After that, the FBI or the DOJ or somebody classified those shared ones too. If I remember correctly.