Make America Native Again

I saw this and thought it worthy of a discussion.

An artist has done her own version of the MAGA Hat to highlight important issues...

from ABC News

Listen up, Trump!

This Navajo artist from Albuquerque, New Mexico, says she has a message for the Donald.

Vanessa Bowen told ABC News today she has designed and produced "Make America Native Again" hats as a way of starting conversation about the problematic history behind Donald Trump's presidential campaign slogan -- "Make America Great Again" -- and to raise awareness for marginalized indigenous peoples in the U.S.

I like the message she's trying to convey, a return to traditional values like sustainability and living in harmony with the environment. I've even ordered a hat myself (I don't often treat myself)

I've always wondered how different the United States would be if left to their native peoples to bring them into the 21st century, no doubt the world would be a very different place...

Make America native again?

Ok.

But how do we resurrect the Clovis people that 'American Indians' killed off when they migrated here from Asia?

a reply to: abe froman

Make America red haired giants again?
Would make building the wall a whole lot easier.

a reply to: djz3ro

"Designed" is maybe not the right word and ironically it's pretty racist and misandrist.
But I like the sustainability and harmony idea behind it. Even though it's just creating more division. All in all an ugly hat and a complete fail once you spend a thought... but who thinks these days and it's making her money gives her publicity so it's a success right...

a reply to: abe froman

If we can get a DNA sample we can surely "Jurassic Park" them back to life?

a reply to: djz3ro

There would be no US, and the Native countries would be controlled by Nazis or Communists by now most likely.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: djz3ro

"Designed" is maybe not the right word and ironically it's pretty racist and misandrist.

You're spot on about the "design" element, or lack thereof but I've always thought that about the MAGA hats.

It is slightly racist and slightly misandrist but that's the point really, it's holding a mirror up to the US...

Say, what a wonderful idea! And speaking of ideas I just had one! I'm gonna make my own hat, and its gonna say.....
YOU LOST
Say, doesnt that sound swell?!
Well golly I think I'll run out and have someone make that for me right away!

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: djz3ro

There would be no US, and the Native countries would be controlled by Nazis or Communists by now most likely.

How can you be so sure that would be the case?

originally posted by: abe froman
Make America native again?

Ok.

But how do we resurrect the Clovis people that 'American Indians' killed off when they migrated here from Asia?

It's only wrong when white people do it. Didn't you get the memo?

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: djz3ro

There would be no US, and the Native countries would be controlled by Nazis or Communists by now most likely.

How can you be so sure that would be the case?

Read Guns, Germs, and Steel

You will learn a lot, and have a good perspective on why things are the way they are.

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: djz3ro

There would be no US, and the Native countries would be controlled by Nazis or Communists by now most likely.

How can you be so sure that would be the case?

It's simply the most likely scenario. What would roaming, living off the land, fractured and warring native tribes have done against Russia, or against the Axis powers? Without America the world is likely a place where the light of Freedom has all but been extinguished right now.

a reply to: djz3ro

That would only hold true if Trump said make america white again, he didn't. This is holding up a fun house mirror distorting the original to fit a narrative.

a reply to: djz3ro

Make America America Again has more 'Merica's in it.

originally posted by: abe froman
Make America native again?

Ok.

But how do we resurrect the Clovis people that 'American Indians' killed off when they migrated here from Asia?

Clovis died out long before native Americans were in the Americas. Clovis contributed to the mammoth extinction..
Clovis also settled in south America, close to Chile.

history not misinfo

There were no Clovis and native American mixing up. They were almost 30k years apart...

The most commonly held perspective on the end of the Clovis culture is that a decline in the availability of megafauna, combined with an overall increase in a less mobile population, led to local differentiation of lithic and cultural traditions across the Americas.[9][21] After this time, Clovis-style fluted points were replaced by other fluted-point traditions (such as the Folsom culture) with an essentially uninterrupted sequence across North and Central America. An effectively continuous cultural adaptation proceeds from the Clovis period through the ensuing Middle and Late Paleoindian periods.[22]
Whether the Clovis culture drove the mammoth, and other species, to extinction via overhunting – the so-called Pleistocene overkill hypothesis – is still an open, and controversial, question.[23] It has also been hypothesized that the Clovis culture had its decline in the wake of the Younger Dryas cold phase.[24] This 'cold shock', lasting roughly 1500 years, affected many parts of the world, including North America

a reply to: djz3ro

The US would be called Spain or China or ottoman. I don't mind the hat but native Americans didn't just live in harmony and smoked peace pipes all day. They had wars and were infamously brutal just like all humans. Colonialism was inevitable not an excuse just the truth. Native Americans had no chance

a reply to: djz3ro

I've always wondered how different the United States would be if left to their native peoples to bring them into the 21st century, no doubt the world would be a very different place...

Why would that be?

originally posted by: JDmOKI
a reply to: djz3ro

The US would be called Spain or China or ottoman. I don't mind the hat but native Americans didn't just live in harmony and smoked peace pipes all day. They had wars and were infamously brutal just like all humans. Colonialism was inevitable not an excuse just the truth. Native Americans had no chance

Native American population had just been destroyed from disease and was at a low point of only a million or so when the colonists arrived.

There was barely anyone here at the time. Colonists didn't "take" America from anyone. They were already almost wiped out.

It's not like they lived in a balance with nature, ha. They were savages who had progressed beyond simple things.

a reply to: odzeandennz

I defy you to provide any credible evidence that Clovis, and later arrivals were 30k years apart.

You are a couple decades behind current theory. It is widely accepted that a comet/meteor strike on the North American, or Greenland ice sheet was responsible for megafauna demise.

As far as Clovis culture being in S. America, I have never heard that, and I try to stay current with that type of thing.

originally posted by: djz3ro
I saw this and thought it worthy of a discussion.

An artist has done her own version of the MAGA Hat to highlight important issues...

from ABC News

Listen up, Trump!

This Navajo artist from Albuquerque, New Mexico, says she has a message for the Donald.

Vanessa Bowen told ABC News today she has designed and produced "Make America Native Again" hats as a way of starting conversation about the problematic history behind Donald Trump's presidential campaign slogan -- "Make America Great Again" -- and to raise awareness for marginalized indigenous peoples in the U.S.

I like the message she's trying to convey, a return to traditional values like sustainability and living in harmony with the environment. I've even ordered a hat myself (I don't often treat myself)

I've always wondered how different the United States would be if left to their native peoples to bring them into the 21st century, no doubt the world would be a very different place...

So 10s of millions died from disease hey?

Where are all the mass graves? The continent should have mass graves everywhere if what you say was true.