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Scottish government abandons plans over gender self-identification following backlash

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posted on Jul, 1 2019 @ 01:19 PM
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And this is how it's done! Big warm fuzzy kudos to the ladies of Scotland!!! These ladies are my (s)heroes and I am in awe of them.

Scottish government abandons plans over gender self-identification following backlash

The Scottish government has abandoned plans that would have allowed anyone over 16 to change their legal gender within a day or brief waiting period...[snip]...Opponents of the proposals said they put women at risk by allowing male-bodied people access to changing rooms as well as rape crisis centres and women’s prisons...[snip]...First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said the concerns were “misplaced” but she was forced to shelve the plans after ministerial colleagues, MPs and MSPs rebelled.

The concerns were NOT "misplaced" as these concerns have been become reality, and Ms. Sturgeon knows it... so that's an outright lie. The article cites two examples (of MANY!):

The Sunday Times reports that Scotland’s prison service, which operates a de facto self-identification policy, is to review it after a whistleblower claimed a small number of trans prisoners in Scotland’s female jails were responsible for a “quite horrific” number of incidents, among them threats of rape.

Earlier this year, Katie Dolatowski, 18, who was born male was sent to live in a women-only hostel after sexually assaulting a 10-year-old girl.

It is no doubt for this very reason that the critters in Scotland tried to pass this through without even consulting women, nor conducting the proper impact assessments on women -- the very ones who would be most negatively affected and most likely harmed by self-ID. And, of course, once word did get out and women started organizing and fighting back, the Trans Taliban tried their best to shut them up and shut them down. Women were harassed, bullied, insulted, de-platformed, threatened, and fired from their jobs/positions. Like these ladies: Lesbians at Edinburgh Pride: a personal account

Trying to silence any and all dissent is standard operating procedure among Trans Activists, and is happening everywhere, not just in Scotland.

SNP MSP Joan McAlpine played a key part in opposing the plans. She said trans activists had attempted to prevent discussion because “their arguments wouldn’t stand up to debate”.

To politicians south of the border also facing abuse for similar reasons, she said: “I know there are people in Westminster who feel like me but don’t speak up. Feel the fear and do it anyway.”

Here's one very recent example: "Save Women's Sports" Instagram Account Disabled.

And here are a few more: The purge of trans-sceptical academics

Finally, remember this is all to allow grown ass men with a sexual fetish to force us all into role playing for them. This isn't about transsexuals with gender dysphoria (who want no part of this Trans Activism, and who are actually being hurt by this Trans Activism). This is about heterosexual perverts with sexual fantasies of being treated as a "woman." Someone breaks down the numbers here: What Happened to the Transsexual Rights Movement? More on Percentages and Prevalence, showing that up to 90% of self-identifying transgender men are autogynephiles looking for a sexual thrill.

For more background on the situation:
Women are fighting back against Scotland’s gender identity policies

For some insight on how this could continuing playing out elsewhere:
Feminists celebrate U‑turn on self‑identification in Scotland as women’s prisons review trans policy

To the ladies of Scotland: BRAVO!!!



posted on Jul, 1 2019 @ 02:02 PM
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Bwhahahahahaha!!

Good for them.
I hope it catches on.


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posted on Jul, 1 2019 @ 02:05 PM
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Welcome back to reality mofos.



posted on Jul, 1 2019 @ 02:08 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea

They ALL wear skirts and have beards over there, how anyone can tell the difference now is beyond me.




Finally, remember this is all to allow grown ass men with a sexual fetish to force us all into role playing for them.

Thats just gross.
What did they finally get tired of playing golf?



posted on Jul, 1 2019 @ 02:16 PM
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posted on Jul, 1 2019 @ 02:22 PM
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a reply to: Dr UAE

That's perfect -- I love it! And these ladies definitely deserve it. They had to deal with abuse from their own authorities and government officials -- as well as the Trans Taliban -- being demeaned and deplatformed by those elected to represent them. It was shameful.

Thank you!



posted on Jul, 1 2019 @ 02:29 PM
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originally posted by: Lysergic
Welcome back to reality mofos.


For some reason the Trans Activists are strangely silent.

I'm sure it won't last long. They'll come out of their shock and figure out their talking points... but we could have some fun with it I suppose. How about one shot of tequila every time they invoke "TERF" or "transphobe"...



posted on Jul, 1 2019 @ 02:34 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea

They got low stamina, gotta put points in stamina.



posted on Jul, 1 2019 @ 03:06 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea

Nice write. How come no OPS from Scotland have commented?



posted on Jul, 1 2019 @ 03:28 PM
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originally posted by: Waterglass
a reply to: Boadicea

Nice write. How come no OPS from Scotland have commented?


OPS? "Operatives"? Other Posters? I'm not sure what you mean!

But generally, I'm not sure why the lack of response from several quarters. Beyond the reporting of the event, and crediting/blaming women (depending on the perspective), I haven't found any direct responses from Trans or LGBT organizations.

I'm sure it will come though.



posted on Jul, 1 2019 @ 03:38 PM
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I tried to edit the OP, but I have "exceeded" my window for editing. So I just have to add this as a comment.

In reading around the web, looking for more info, it seems "delays" might be more accurate than "abandons"; as in "Scottish government DELAYS plans..." rather than abandons altogether.

The rumor is that officials want to put off any decision until after the 2021 elections because they fear further public backlash, and their efforts will be picked up again after the election.



posted on Jul, 1 2019 @ 04:37 PM
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a reply to: Boadicea

I think this is great news. Evidently there are no Mensa members who are part of the Scottish government. Who in their right mind would conclude there wouldn't be a problem with a biological male imprisoned in a women's prison? Anyone?

Evidently, the National Center for Transgender Equality could care less:


JAILS ARE TRAUMATIZING AND OFTEN DANGEROUS PLACES, ESPECIALLY for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBTQ) people and anyone who doesn’t fit gender stereotypes.

transequality.org...

What about the trauma that biological women face, who are sexually assaulted by transgender females in jail?



posted on Jul, 1 2019 @ 04:44 PM
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once word did get out and women started organizing and fighting back, the Trans Taliban tried their best to shut them up and shut them dow


Standard operating PC procedure.


To the ladies of Scotland: BRAVO!!!


Lets hope this spreads south to Westminster, across the channel and to Europe.

Small steps but a big win!!!








posted on Jul, 1 2019 @ 04:52 PM
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What about the trauma that biological women face, who are sexually assaulted by transgender females in jail?


Spot on.

from article


JAILS ARE TRAUMATIZING AND OFTEN DANGEROUS PLACES, ESPECIALLY for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBTQ) people and anyone who doesn’t fit gender stereotypes.



This is disingenuous, as anecdotally heterosexuals form temporary gay and lesbian relationships if they're in prison for a long haul.



posted on Jul, 1 2019 @ 04:54 PM
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Who in their right mind would conclude there wouldn't be a problem with a biological male imprisoned in a women's prison? Anyone?

What about the trauma that biological women face, who are sexually assaulted by transgender females in jail?


It's absolutely mind boggling, isn't it? The complete and utter disregard for the safety and well being of women while magnifying the slightest slight on behalf of men -- even violent men! -- identifying as women.

I really believe Scotland critters thought they could sneak this through. When they couldn't, they thought abusing and threatening women would shut them up.

This is good news indeed, even if only temporary. I doubt the backlash will recede any time soon.



posted on Jul, 2 2019 @ 01:26 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

Good to see the gingers squash this mental disorder from permeating through their proud society, at least we know Scotland is not overrun by leftist freaks and clowns.....yet. Lets hope it stays that way.


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posted on Jul, 2 2019 @ 01:40 AM
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a reply to: Boadicea

When you get right down to it, women get upset and things get done. Men get upset and get called toxic patriarchal fascists.

It's just more proof that only certain sections of society have any weight when it comes to politicians and the media.

If you don't have the right gender or skin color then you might as well not exist.



posted on Jul, 2 2019 @ 03:34 AM
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showing that up to 90% of self-identifying transgender men are autogynephiles looking for a sexual thrill.


I'm shocked...noooot.

Good small win for the sane thinking among us.

Do you feel you can win this war ? I must say I'm a bit skeptical for the long run. They will probably just keep on pushing until they get their own.



posted on Jul, 2 2019 @ 07:27 AM
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originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: Boadicea

When you get right down to it, women get upset and things get done. Men get upset and get called toxic patriarchal fascists.


Hmmmm... I'm confused... are we talking about men? Or men identifying as "women"? Only kidding. Couldn't resist asking considering the topic!


It's just more proof that only certain sections of society have any weight when it comes to politicians and the media.

If you don't have the right gender or skin color then you might as well not exist.


I really don't think that's it. Women have been called lots of things for fighting the Trans Agenda, and mostly by men, including men in government offices, and especially men identifying as "women." This is a hard won fight. And it came by the hairs of their chinny chin chins.



posted on Jul, 2 2019 @ 07:42 AM
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a reply to: MarioOnTheFly


Do you feel you can win this war ? I must say I'm a bit skeptical for the long run. They will probably just keep on pushing until they get their own.


I think the Trans Agenda will implode on its own. The only questions is how much damage will be done before that time comes. Refusing to police their own, refusing to accept any limitations on their gender "identity," refusing to give kids any options except puberty blockers and cross-hormones, etc., and refusing to accept even reasonable for safeguards for women and children, is ALL discrediting their movement to ever greater extents. They have only enjoyed this much success because the campaign to silence dissenters has kept most of the public ignorant and unaware.

For example, I think the analysis of prisoners in England, which showed about half of all violent sex offenders identify as "women", and the bad behavior of the men identifying as "women" who sexually assaulted women after being placed in the women's prison, prove just how wrong these policies are. And the more the public knows, the more their movement will fall apart under its own weight.

But in the meantime, we have children being multilated and sterilized, girls' and womens' sports being dominated effectively erasing them from the competition, women and girls being endangered in what should be safe spaces... too many people being harmed. Eventually such situations will lead to lawsuits, and quite likely some arrests.

No one can hide the ugly truth forever.



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