HUGE - President Obama's DNI Says Obama Himself Gave The Order to SPY On Donald Trump.

a reply to: sunkuong

Trumps birth certificate?

Isnt that with the ASPCA? or the american kennel club?

a reply to: Phage

It still says Obama started the whole sequence of events. BTW, in case you are totally unfamiliar with it, Obama would have been notified of everything and he could have stopped what he himself started... Obama started an investigation on his political opposition with fake claims which were written by a foreign agent known as Steele, and whom wrote mostly Russian lies. Not to mention that the Steele dossier was paid off by the DNC/Hillary team. Obama must have been shown "the so called evidence."

What's more Comey himself admitted that the Steele dossier wasn't verified, yet he and McCabe signed the dossier and lied to the FISA court claiming it was verified when it wasn't. Why would Comey/McCabe do that and put themselves on the line LYING knowingly to the FISA court, which is a federal crime, unless they were assured by the top brass (Obama) nothing will happen to them?... Obama knew it all, he started the whole investigation and he was notified through it all until he left office because that's how it works...

a reply to: timequake

Never mind that the story is a year old though.

Why havent they moved on this if its a real story?
Because its not a real story.

a reply to: carewemust

The ones who believe in the Easter Bunny?

I mean when its fantasy its fantasy right?

a reply to: Sillyolme

It actually is a real story, unlike all the lies that people like you swallowed from your liberal/democrat media and liberals/democrats/rinos in power.

BTW, and again, what did Mueller report said?... Oh yeah there is no evidence that Trump or any of his campaign managers colluded with the Russians, and there is no evidence Trump obstructed justice, but you can go ahead and impeach him...

You forget that it was left-wingers like yourself who "believed in the eastern bunny" to begin with where it concerns this topic...

a reply to: xuenchen

And some ain't worth a penny.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

yet he and McCabe signed the dossier and lied to the FISA court claiming it was verified when it wasn't.

They did?

a reply to: Boadicea

Make elected politicians sign a contract to do what they promised, or begin throttling back their pay/benefits until they do? Sounds like a winner to me!

a reply to: Fallingdown

Actually there were three letters (aka "scope memos") from Rod Rosenstein to Robert Mueller. #2 and #3 are still mostly classified to this day.

The unredacted portions of memos #2 and #3 show that Rosenstein continually broadened Mueller's allowed scope, to include a bunch of stuff that was all redacted. It's a good thing Barr shut Mueller down when he did!

a reply to: Agit8dChop

You write excellent summaries that tie together items and events many of us forget, because there are so many tentacles.

Thank-you!

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Obama threw the explosive boomerang at Trump.

Trump raised his hand and the boomerang began making a U-Turn.

It's now en-route back to Obama and growing in explosive power as it flies!

BOOM!

originally posted by: Phage

They did?

Yes they did. Someone posted the FISA document in a thread about the dossier and it was stamped as being verified, and Comey testified in front of Congress that the Steele dossier was not verified.

That thread must be still around.

FBI VERIFIED fake dossier to get SPY warrants on the Trump campaign

Comey Admits Dossier Was Unverified Before And After FBI Used It To Obtain Spy Warrants

In order to obtain the warrant with the Steele dossier the dossier had to be verified, and it showed the stamp of verified( in large red letters) which was presented to the FISA court. The FISA court would only have agreed to open the investigation if the evidence was verified, and they believed it was because the top brass in Obama's FBI (Comey and McCabe) had posted the "VERIFIED" stamp.

What's more, the FBI also signed at least another document they used to spy on Carter Page, and they claimed that the target, "Carter Page" is an "agent of a foreign power."

The FBI top brass also put the "verified" stamp on this document, except, that after Carter page was taken to court there was no evidence shown and he wasn't found guilty for working for the Russians concerning the allegations made by Comey/McCabe's FBI.

What's more Carter Page is still free, as are all campaign managers regarding claims they colluded with Russia. Manafort and others like him were accused of other crimes which have nothing to do with "Russian collusion to affect U.S. elections." Since Page is free, it means there was never any factual evidence of the claims made by Comey/McCabe.

assets.documentcloud.org...

I am still trying to find the other document.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: carewemust

Former Obama administration director of national intelligence James Clapper admitted that former president Barack Obama gave the order to Peter Strzok to kick off his Operation Crossfire Hurricane targeting of President Donald Trump

ARE THEY REALLY THIS DESPERATE

Oh yes! They committed several felonies. Hillary's count is up to 12 felonies committed. (She was too dumb and arrogant to cover her crimes well.)

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

As this RCP article points out, Obama's propensity for SPYING, will come back to hurt Joe Biden's chances of being the party's Presidential nominee.

Good Read: www.realclearpolitics.com...

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: carewemust

BEFORE Trump beat Hillary, Obama told the Intel Community to "Stand Down" from Investigating Russian interference.

But "stand down" was not having to do with any investigations, it was about taking retaliatory action against Russia.

RE: www.huffpost.com...

President Obama didn't want the U.S. to take any action against the Russians, even though they were actively "meddling" in our 2016 election process. That's inexplicable, isn't it?

a reply to: Sillyolme

You ask a question on one line. And then answer yourself on the next line.

Try to relax. And by all means, ignore all this fake news about Spying, Traitors, and Deep-State B.S..

If it's not carried by CNN or MSNBC, it's a LIE. Ignore it. OK?

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Thanks for hyperlinking to those relevant ATS threads, ElectricUniverse.

The only huge thing I see is the HUGE whining that will happen when people realize that nothing will happen to any of these crooks.

a reply to: Phage



This is from the source you’re using to debunk the claim .

But Obama’s request for an intelligence deep-dive into Russian meddling doesn't support what the headline claims. The article is referring to a different aspect of the Russia probe, which didn’t emerge until several months after Obama left the White House.

What different aspect of the Russian probe was there?

The key distinction here is the difference between the intelligence community assessment Obama ordered in December 2016, and the appointment in May 2017 of Robert Mueller as special counsel. Mueller was tasked to investigate both Moscow’s election interference as well as ties between Russia and the Trump campaign.

The key distinction was that there was no distinction.

Only collaboration.............

On November 30 eight senators sent a letter to Obama asking for an investigation

www.documentcloud.org...

Obama ordered the ICA on December 9, 2016 .

On December 19 congressman Brad Sherman sent a letter to Obama requesting a special counsel .

Coincidence I think not

On January 6, 2017 the ICA was released with earthshaking findings like.

1: They were Russian trolls on social media !!!!!! 😱

2: Evil Russian hackers trying to infiltrate polling stations and election board’s located in schools and churches !!!!! ( which they’re still doing 1000 times a day ) 😱😱

3: It also announced the earth shattering news that Russian media outlets were state actors sowing propaganda on The Russian government’s behalf. 😱😱😱

You went through the invasion of Crimea/Ukraine and the downing of MH 17 on conspiracy websites. Without lying to my face you can’t tell me any of that surprised you. Or that it took eight intelligence agencies to figure it out.


The ICA also states that Russia was mean to Hillary and nice to trump.

Russia was nice to Bernie until they figured out Hillary was screwing him that’s when they switched to trump.

I could be wrong here but I don’t recall Bernie mentioned anywhere in that report.

Letters flying back-and-forth behind the scenes. Findings that aren’t findings at all unless you’re surprised that RT is state media and people hate Hillary. (there’s definitely no surprise there) lol

The ICA was a weapon to start the special counsel investigation. I don’t care what politihack says they’re lying.

originally posted by: TheGreatWork
The only huge thing I see is the HUGE whining that will happen when people realize that nothing will happen to any of these crooks.

If "nothing happens", the resultant protests will be far FAR worse than mere whining.