China continues buying Iranian LPG despite U.S. sanctions

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: Bluntone22


They're only watching out for their own ships, we watch out for everyone's ships.

But to be fair, it is just two different ways of watching out for one's own interests.

China and her government see a (likely domestic) advantage in protecting just herself and her own.

The US sees a geopolitical advantage in protecting others as well.


Neither is particular benevolent.

originally posted by: LightSpeedDriver
a reply to: CriticalStinker

You forgot a category.

The gung-ho trigger-happy folks way too eager to see the war machine rolled out again.

You're right, thankfully they don't let us forget about them for too long.

a reply to: Waterglass

Just wait until the Yuan is allowed to float against the dollar. The dollar will become worthless.

a reply to: Waterglass

Trump and the ds underestimate iran if they think a bluff like this would work.

That being said I do not want war with iran ever.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

US citizen, and proud patriot.

Me too.

originally posted by: DupontDeux
China and her government see a (likely domestic) advantage in protecting just herself and her own.

But China isn't doing anything.

originally posted by: Waterglass
a reply to: Sanitarium79

The US wants Irans oil, we get it - just leave the rest of the world alone.

Have you ever heard about FRACKING in the USA? We don't need their oil.

FORBES:How The Fracking Revolution Broke OPEC's Hold On Oil Prices

We do.

If Iran sells it's oil to whoever and whenever it likes it allows the possibility of very low oil prices. As you know the dollar is heavily linked to oil.

This is why Iran is constantly touted as a threat and unreasonable sanctions put in place.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: DupontDeux
China and her government see a (likely domestic) advantage in protecting just herself and her own.

But China isn't doing anything.

Probably the smartest thing they could do while we overextend ourselves.

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: Sanitarium79
a reply to: Waterglass

Why should China, or any other country care about US sanctions?

The US wants Irans oil, we get it - just leave the rest of the world alone.

Why would we want Iran's oil?
We haven't imported their oil in years.

Now safe passage of Saudi, Iraqi and Kuwaiti oil is a different story.

www.worldstopexports.com...

I never said the US wants to import the oil, They want the money that it is worth.

As soon as a country stops trading oil in petro-dollars, and therefor cut the free US money supply, they get a good portion of "freedom" delivered by the US.

To be honest, I'm not a huge fan of islamic countries so I don't really care that much. Just dont pretend the US does it for any other reason than money. If you guys are ok with sending your sons and daughters to die in some desert, so you can fill up your V8 pickups cheap, just go ahead - the world is overpopulatet anyway.

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: Pluginn

Maybe the world isn't going to let the usa bully them anymore?

Seems like lately the world has become bold in their moves against us.

Its interesting you say that.

There is good reason the U.S. instantly pulled back on its idea of attacking Iran.

We were warned in no uncertain terms by our allies of dire economic and Intel access restrictions, as well of certain tech withdrawal.

Trump listened.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
Probably the smartest thing they could do while we overextend ourselves.

Exactly, we screw around in the puddle that is the Middle East and they concentrate on consolidating the western Pacific.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: DupontDeux
China and her government see a (likely domestic) advantage in protecting just herself and her own.

But China isn't doing anything.

Oh, sometimes it pays to not just assume..

...I assumed you were comparing the Chinese stance to policing til the American. (Probably due to the topic. But that is no excuse)


My apologies.

a reply to: DupontDeux


No worries.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
Probably the smartest thing they could do while we overextend ourselves.

Exactly, we screw around in the puddle that is the Middle East and they concentrate on consolidating the western Pacific.

Sometimes the best thing to do when boxing against someone out of your weight class is let them swing till they wear them selves out.

China seems to have been rather quite on this one for their ally. Maybe a US conflict with Iran actually fits their interests.

couse of the better quality… easier to reffine :-) a reply to: Fallingdown

originally posted by: Sanitarium79
a reply to: Waterglass
Why should China, or any other country care about US sanctions?

Especially since they own a little of America's debt, eh?

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
Sometimes the best thing to do when boxing against someone out of your weight class is let them swing till they wear them selves out.

We've been punching ourselves in the face for some time.

originally posted by: Pluginn
It's not a law for other country's but if you ignore those sanctions the US pusnish that country.

Like with the EU recently who wanted to bypass the US sanctions got this warning:

"Entities that continue to engage in sanctionable activity involving Iran risk severe consequences that could include losing access to the US financial system and the ability to do business with the United States or US companies," he said.

Nice dictatorial behavior...

Well, when your the worlds reserve currency, you can have that kind of pull.

Iran has been sanctioned and people who do business with them will be subjected to penalties.

Look at Huwaei, they got caught doing business and now they are blacklisted, and this is a chinese company too, Trump Admimistration gives no F#s.

a reply to: dfnj2015

What ever happened to BRICS?

BRICS is the acronym coined for an association of five major emerging national economies: Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa.

Brazil is cooked. South Africa is cooked. Iran could be on standby so this "war" could stop that.

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: Sanitarium79
a reply to: Waterglass
Why should China, or any other country care about US sanctions?

Especially since they own a little of America's debt, eh?

AND? lol, the ignorancy of people when they bring that up....