Do you feel America is on the "moral" decline

Just wait until we old generation is out of control and the new generation the first raised solely by electronics is in control.

Did you see the story on the news about the young girls who murdered one of the girls best friend because a stranger on the internet who said he was rich would give them millions for the murder on video? Saw this yesterday in Alaska. There have been groups of 10 years olds broke into a home to steal but the 80 year old Woman was home so guess what, they raped her!

Another couple of young girls killed their Friend, not a stenager their Friend for joining Wicker-man on the internet.

This have changed drastically, when I was 10 I would not have even known about sex but a few vague ideas girls were "icky" for the most part and now they are raping people.

I feel it is very clear how this follows what we are told that the last days will be like.

Example:
2 Timothy 3:1-5 New International Version (NIV)
3 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.

a reply to: musicismagic

It’s true of the entire western world. Ethics is a lost art.

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: Edumakated

Social media has also made people more narcissistic as well.

It's all an offshoot of Capitalism. I see nothing wrong with entrepreneurs and established corps. trying to make more money thru media platforms.

Would you rather have government regulate what is moral and what is depraved; Judeo/Christian dogma or gtfo...

Nah, you are missing my point. Social media has made it possible for practically anyone to be famous in some way. As a result, people care more about their online personality and their followers. There is little real interaction.

In addition, people are living fake lives online. Posting pictures of their "perfect lives" on instagram and facebook when in reality they are a hot mess.

I don't know if there has really been a decline morally, but social media has most certainly made it possible to show it all to the world unfiltered.

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: Edumakated

Social media has also made people more narcissistic as well.

It's all an offshoot of Capitalism. I see nothing wrong with entrepreneurs and established corps. trying to make more money thru media platforms.

Would you rather have government regulate what is moral and what is depraved; Judeo/Christian dogma or gtfo...

Nah, you are missing my point. Social media has made it possible for practically anyone to be famous in some way. As a result, people care more about their online personality and their followers. There is little real interaction.

In addition, people are living fake lives online. Posting pictures of their "perfect lives" on instagram and facebook when in reality they are a hot mess.

I don't know if there has really been a decline morally, but social media has most certainly made it possible to show it all to the world unfiltered.

Do you see the irony in posting on ATS? It's part and parcel of social media as well; where there are forums to discuss the most intimate aspect of your life if you so choose. A different format but still open for business....Capitalism, eh?

How would you control it? I say let market forces work.

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: Edumakated

Social media has also made people more narcissistic as well.

It's all an offshoot of Capitalism. I see nothing wrong with entrepreneurs and established corps. trying to make more money thru media platforms.

Would you rather have government regulate what is moral and what is depraved; Judeo/Christian dogma or gtfo...

Nah, you are missing my point. Social media has made it possible for practically anyone to be famous in some way. As a result, people care more about their online personality and their followers. There is little real interaction.

In addition, people are living fake lives online. Posting pictures of their "perfect lives" on instagram and facebook when in reality they are a hot mess.

I don't know if there has really been a decline morally, but social media has most certainly made it possible to show it all to the world unfiltered.

Do you see the irony in posting on ATS? It's part and parcel of social media as well; where there are forums to discuss the most intimate aspect of your life if you so choose. A different format but still open for business....Capitalism, eh?

How would you control it?

There is a big difference between posting on an anonymous message board and taking selfies with pouting lips and showing off your fake ass on instagram. Surely you can tell the difference.

I don't seek to control it. I just choose not to participate as I see how shallow a segment of the population has become...

I've never had a Facebook account...

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: Edumakated

Social media has also made people more narcissistic as well.

It's all an offshoot of Capitalism. I see nothing wrong with entrepreneurs and established corps. trying to make more money thru media platforms.

Would you rather have government regulate what is moral and what is depraved; Judeo/Christian dogma or gtfo...

Nah, you are missing my point. Social media has made it possible for practically anyone to be famous in some way. As a result, people care more about their online personality and their followers. There is little real interaction.

In addition, people are living fake lives online. Posting pictures of their "perfect lives" on instagram and facebook when in reality they are a hot mess.

I don't know if there has really been a decline morally, but social media has most certainly made it possible to show it all to the world unfiltered.

Do you see the irony in posting on ATS? It's part and parcel of social media as well; where there are forums to discuss the most intimate aspect of your life if you so choose. A different format but still open for business....Capitalism, eh?

How would you control it?

There is a big difference between posting on an anonymous message board and taking selfies with pouting lips and showing off your fake ass on instagram. Surely you can tell the difference.

I don't seek to control it. I just choose not to participate as I see how shallow a segment of the population has become...

I've never had a Facebook account...

Your choice, but as someone involved in entertainment, of which Social media is a part. We research what the audience wants thru all sorts of media, including ATS, platforms and we give it to em. It's a business, it's capitalism driven by the profit incentive and i'm blessed to have a small slice of that pie.

No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people...HLM "There's a sucker born every minute....PTB

Don't like it...change the structure...be the change you seek. It's a brave new world and whine festivals don't accomplish much but working in the cyber/digital sector will... "you ain't seen nothing yet" Cell phones with 4k and instant streaming web access makes everyone that wants to be..a producer, actor, newsperson, filmmaker, or fool. It's the 1st amendment, freedom of expression run riot. It's beautiful!! And something not lost on the 3 amigos!!

a reply to: musicismagic

YES! Every area has declined.

The biggest issue I see today is that nobody wants to take personal responsibility anymore.
It is always because of this, or that or this person.

No, not Nationally.

It's not America, it's outside influencer groups, like the ones organizing global queer, trans gay bi xyz protests, and the globalist agenda of forcing socialism down everyones throats.

The decline is in standing up for traditional beliefs and life styles, most people are not concerning themselves every day with how the 0.1% can be coddled and pandered to.

People don't just get special treatment for no reason, and making up a reason to be treated special devalues the importance of such treatment.

Handicapped people deserve special treatment, they are possibly mentally handicapped or physically and there for require and deserve some special treatment.

As for everyone else who's not handicapped, they can get over it and stop pretending to special.

We are all people who have problems, no one's life is perfect and not one of us can claim otherwise.

So be extending unnecessary special treatment to people just looking for attention, we lose the purpose of the treatment for people who need it.

In other words, stop being a damn drama queen, the world doesn't revolve around you.

Nor does the world owe any one a single thing, it was here long before any of us.

a reply to: Boadicea

My kids threatened to call protective services on me... I literally handed them the receiver and told them go for it. I told them that I'd tell CPS exactly what my kids were doing and why I was disciplining them... they chose not to call. When my son was 14 and took off against my expressed wishes, I told him to get his ass home within half an hour or I was calling protective services! If he didn't want to live by my rules, he could live by theirs. He decided the devil he knows (me!) was better than the devil he didn't know. He was home in 20 minutes.

I didn't know that was a "thing" but I did EXACTLY the same thing to my oldest daughter when she was 14 and decided she was boss and brought up calling DHS.

Just handed her the phone, told her please make that call because I was tired of fighting with her so it would probably be better if she went to a foster home where life was obviously going to be better for her than living under my roof and rules.

Things got a lot better after that.

a reply to: Lumenari

I didn't know that was a "thing" but I did EXACTLY the same thing to my oldest daughter when she was 14 and decided she was boss and brought up calling DHS.

Just handed her the phone, told her please make that call because I was tired of fighting with her so it would probably be better if she went to a foster home where life was obviously going to be better for her than living under my roof and rules.

Things got a lot better after that.

Too funny -- I love it! It really takes the wind out of their sails, eh?

But seriously, it's their "job" to pushback and test boundaries... and it's our job to stand firm. Of course, it's also our job to make sure that we choose our battles carefully, so that we're standing firm on the right battleground.

originally posted by: CthruU
My moral compass gives a slight win for now in regards to your question.

Your moral compass is broken and indicative of the decline being seen in the western world.

a reply to: musicismagic

We are a society of addicts, lazy entitled takers, tweakers, thieves, whores and whoremongers, attention seekers, perverts, idol worshipers, pagans, death cultists, manipulators, liars, whiners, sodomites, fearmongers, hatemongers, anxiety riddled, short attention spanned, childih nothings.

Yeah, morals are on the decline and it is steep right now. A plague or second great flood would be a blessing right about now.

a reply to: musicismagic

Spare the rod. Lose the child.

a reply to: musicismagic
Considering that this country was founded on murder and theft it's hard to think how morals could decline further.

The decline is not as obvious to me, in the sense that it feels like a giant gd psyop.

I work all the way across the country, across several states, and the amount of wacked out, non money related people is nill.

I've seen 1 tranny before.

So, this looks like a giant controlled psyop to me. Infesting social media.
You know, especially Lifelog/Facebook, twatter etc

a reply to: musicismagic

Are you even allowed to have "morals" anymore? And what are they? More importantly, where do they come from?

originally posted by: CthruU

originally posted by: Telos

originally posted by: CthruU

originally posted by: musicismagic
I got to say something about "morals" first. When the children tell the parents they will call the police if they spank them, well, this is what I mean on the "moral decline" of America. Parents are afraid of their children just like adults are afraid of their govt. employees and the assholes that govern their daily life.

So if parents are forced to search deeper than violence to steer poor behaviour then - incline not decline.

Parents are afraid of the repercussion not the child. - incline not decline.

What a load of crap. No matter how much you search, if the kid doesn't "fear" the parent, somewhere that parent has failed and that's a decline.

Parents shouldn't be afraid to discipline their children. If they do then that's a big decline.

Please don't even start with me on this one,- i came from a very very violent home and i can assure you if it wasn't for divine intervention i would be a chip of the old block.
Violence teaches a child this is how you deal with problems that the mind can't deal with. Then society says this is how we deal with you when your violence spills out of the home into the community. "Moral decline"

Parents can discipline their children many ways other than violence.
Violence is never ok when trying to raise young minds - From an adult/parent that is.

The child should not "fear" the parent - the child should respect the parent.


The only "load of crap" here is your caveman mentality. Don't ever talk to me again. You hear.

Sorry to hear about your experience but you're going to an extreme. By disciplining your kid I don't mean beat the crap out of him/her. I grew up in a loving home and I can't ask for better parents but when I was wrong and over the line, I got the slap in the face and ear pull and smack in my but. I was the 'nightmare' of the neighborhood and my mom was afraid to come home from work because the line up of the parents waiting to complain about my behavior was a mile long. And slowly I learnt to fear the punishment that for me was the slapping in the face and ear pulling. While my father was another story. He never ever laid his hands on me but was enough a look from him that I'd pis my self. To this days that I'm nearing 50, I don't talk back to him or to my mother. It is not fear, is respect. That being said, parenting is not smiling at your kid and saying ata boy all the time for fear that they will call cops on you.At the end of the day, for the majority, no one loves your own kids more than you.

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: CthruU

I am sorry for what has happened in your past.

But I will give you this example.

My kid bit me hard at around the age of 18 months old. I bit back just enough to make it hurt. The look of mistrust from my kid was horrifying. Did my kid bite me after that, no. Did my kid learn empathy, yes. Did my kid learn there are consequences for actions, yes. Do we still have a loving and trusting relationship, yes. Because I worked at being a good parent, not a friend. Would I do it over again, yes. Would my actions work with every child, no.

Thats not instilling "fear" in the child, that's simply making a point that biting hurts - after all you didn't bite with hateful intent.

Parents shouldn't be afraid to discipline their children - i agree but discipline is one thing instilling "fear" is quite another.

But thanks for your comiserations but respectfully i don't need them I've dealt with this issue long ago - but simply there's no excuse for violence or instilling fear in society, it's frowned apon isn't it so why is it ok to instill "fear" into a innocent child.

These morons who continually instill "fear" in their kids are the ones to blame for the majority of the problems that arise in society. THEY DON'T CALL IT THE FORMATIVE YEARS FOR NOTHING.

So i have no sympathy for "fear" instillers and they better hope i never witness it as i will put a stop to it there and then in a manner their clearly well rehearsed in.
Children are innocent, children are naughty, children are testing their limits, that's what they do and how tbey learn.

People who can't handle it and are driven to extremes in frustration will have alot to answer for at the pearly gates........At the very least.
If that aint a "moral decline" what is it.

a reply to: Telos

Re read your first response to me.
Now re read your last response to me.

Make your mind up.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: CthruU
My moral compass gives a slight win for now in regards to your question.

Your moral compass is broken and indicative of the decline being seen in the western world.

Out of touch.
Parents aren't afraid of their children - nonsense. (Moral decline if they are)

Just how is my moral compass indicative of the decline. - if your going to make an accusation at least have the common courtesy to explain it.
Or are you to big and important for explaning your accusations.?