Unidentified - Inside America's UFO Investigation - series on History Channel

a reply to: FishBait

Seen just about every Pilot and Astronaut episode on any show related to ufo's, and I would say this was the best. Pilot after pilot after pilot having a close encounter in the sky with things they couldn't explain or identify. I agree the flying antennae was pretty interesting. Can't say I have ever heard of anything like that to date. I also agree with you thinking on the blurry videos. Is it possible due to electromagnetic effects/properties, this contributes? The incident with the ufo coming to within 50 feet under the aircraft was terrifying. This was really good. I may watch again as there were a lot of interesting not heard of before sightings!

originally posted by: UKWO1Phot
Gets worse every episode.
Season 1, yeah worth a watch because it was something new. Now??? Rehash old shiiite again.
Their 5 traits of UAP's.. O it's just like that Tic Tac. Fook Off

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a reply to: ChiefD

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originally posted by: FishBait
I felt last night was one of the better episodes. Lots of good stories and they had some evidence to go with them. The phone recordings of the call between the tower and NORAD was pretty cool especially when NORAD calls back to say they've started tracking the object. That's the stuff they need more of. It doesn't prove what the objects are (obviously) but it demonstrates it's a real object and real event and more than just a story.

The photo taken by the pilot was a little better than the last one. It did seem to show the object was moving toward them. I can deal with them being a little fuzzy as we have no idea what the tech is and it could have some sort of shield or gravity propulsion that effects light.

The floating "antenna" story was great as well. Anyone have any links to more of those stories?

And enough with the 5 observables already lol. We get it, they do spooky stuff!

Yeah, it was a pretty good episode. The pilots they talked to all had military pilot as well as civilian aircraft experience, 30 years for a couple of them. So they were very credible witnesses. The one pilot who was an Air Force pilot as well as a Captain of a major airline didn’t want to identify what airline he worked for. Then there was another pilot who had his whole body blacked out, the civilian contractor one. It’s terrible and frustrating that when pilots want to come forward and report something, they could lose their job or security clearance. These pilots are very experienced and have been doing this a long time. They should be able to report this without feeling like they will lose everything.

Many air traffic controllers also saw very odd things on the radar that made no sense. These craft had no transponders, so nobody could figure out who or what they were. I enjoyed the way NORAD and the air traffic controllers were coordinating trying to figure out what was going on.

And the one pilot even took photos, which I found pretty spooky and credible. These guys aren’t hallucinating or making stuff up. I had chills watching the entire episode. Knowing that UFO’s are in the same area that many airlines fly in is scary. As the one guy said, a midair collision would kill everyone on the plane. Is that what it’s gonna take to get the government to wake up and start doing something?

What they also mentioned in the episode was that what all these craft had in common was they were traveling in heavily trafficked air corridors from many airlines. This is so interesting, and pretty scary too.

originally posted by: charlyv
a reply to: ChiefD

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originally posted by: data5091
a reply to: FishBait

Seen just about every Pilot and Astronaut episode on any show related to ufo's, and I would say this was the best. Pilot after pilot after pilot having a close encounter in the sky with things they couldn't explain or identify. I agree the flying antennae was pretty interesting. Can't say I have ever heard of anything like that to date. I also agree with you thinking on the blurry videos. Is it possible due to electromagnetic effects/properties, this contributes? The incident with the ufo coming to within 50 feet under the aircraft was terrifying. This was really good. I may watch again as there were a lot of interesting not heard of before sightings!

I agree, was definitely one of the best episodes. It really is frightening that there was something 50 feet under an aircraft flying at over 30,000 feet traveling over 500 miles an hour. You’d think the government would be looking into this.

originally posted by: ChiefD

originally posted by: data5091
a reply to: FishBait

Seen just about every Pilot and Astronaut episode on any show related to ufo's, and I would say this was the best. Pilot after pilot after pilot having a close encounter in the sky with things they couldn't explain or identify. I agree the flying antennae was pretty interesting. Can't say I have ever heard of anything like that to date. I also agree with you thinking on the blurry videos. Is it possible due to electromagnetic effects/properties, this contributes? The incident with the ufo coming to within 50 feet under the aircraft was terrifying. This was really good. I may watch again as there were a lot of interesting not heard of before sightings!

I agree, was definitely one of the best episodes. It really is frightening that there was something 50 feet under an aircraft flying at over 30,000 feet traveling over 500 miles an hour. You’d think the government would be looking into this.

I'm not overly worried they would hit a plane though I do agree it's scary for us! They seem to have demonstrate they have pretty amazing flying capabilities. I wonder if they are in air traffic lanes because it's good cover. You might be visually spotted but by the time we even get jets up they could be gone. IDK, why would it matter if they can go anywhere.

One thing I didn't like was how they added the pulsing effect to the pilots pic of the bright object. If you are going to show evidence don't enhance it!!!!!!!!

Unidentified?

Although I disagree with the philosophical premise of TTSA, this docufilm is professional, and presented capably compared to most.

My problems with TTSA are one, their dogma about a threat matrix involved here. And two, the very premise of the subject about the study of what UFOs are has no objective suggestions on how to study UFOs. What’s new here? I would say only the dogma about a threat.

One pilot said, to paraphrase… Wow, if they would have hit us it would have killed all of us.
Well, I would think that if you ran into anything in that sky both you and whatever hit you would all be dead…it doesn’t have to be an ET craft.

They stick closely to that premise of a threat and it seems to me they want to convince us it’s a threat since that is their operating thesis apparently.
I don’t think they have anything to base that on.

And I don’t think they add any objective new ideas to Ufology. As we use to say...same oh...same oh.

Overall this show was watchable but its not the kind I would watch again.

originally posted by: Willtell
Unidentified?

One pilot said, to paraphrase… Wow, if they would have hit us it would have killed all of us.
Well, I would think that if you ran into anything in that sky both you and whatever hit you would all be dead…it doesn’t have to be an ET craft.

Sure, thats why we have radar, transponders, and air traffic controllers. Normally these guys dont have to worry about it b/c its all been covered. Then you encounter something without a transponder, theres a problem.

I havent kept up with the show besides reading Randle's blog, but this show was fine, as long as they present good information, I could care less about their theories.

I have come around to Arby's theory that the JAL 1628 sighting was probably a ground reflection. Thats what the antennae felt like to me as well, but who knows, it was interesting either way. They claimed another plane saw it from the opposite direction, great if true, but there wasnt any follow up. I do think the guy came off as believable.

This probably represents the best chance of UFOs being caught on film, planes fly 24/7 with cell phones, hopefully there is more coming.

originally posted by: 111DPKING111

originally posted by: Willtell
Unidentified?

One pilot said, to paraphrase… Wow, if they would have hit us it would have killed all of us.
Well, I would think that if you ran into anything in that sky both you and whatever hit you would all be dead…it doesn’t have to be an ET craft.

Sure, thats why we have radar, transponders, and air traffic controllers. Normally these guys dont have to worry about it b/c its all been covered. Then you encounter something without a transponder, theres a problem.

I havent kept up with the show besides reading Randle's blog, but this show was fine, as long as they present good information, I could care less about their theories.

I have come around to Arby's theory that the JAL 1628 sighting was probably a ground reflection. Thats what the antennae felt like to me as well, but who knows, it was interesting either way. They claimed another plane saw it from the opposite direction, great if true, but there wasnt any follow up. I do think the guy came off as believable.

This probably represents the best chance of UFOs being caught on film, planes fly 24/7 with cell phones, hopefully there is more coming.

A reflection from the ground making a huge antenna structure appear at 35k feet in clear skies?

I will say the show doesn't do it self any favors here as the recreation had lots of clouds which in theory could allow for a reflection but in reality the pilot said it was clear sky's. All the recreations used the same cloudy sky imagery when in realty the pilots kept saying it was clear sky's and you could even see that in the one pilots pic.

It's similar to how they added the pulsing effect to the still pic of the UFO. That is terrible if you are showing evidence. I'm sure the cloudy sky's is a CGI trick to add depth and make it look more real etc, but if your doing a recreation make it accurate. We don't care if it's blocky and a little fake looking.

originally posted by: Willtell
Unidentified?

Although I disagree with the philosophical premise of TTSA, this docufilm is professional, and presented capably compared to most.

My problems with TTSA are one, their dogma about a threat matrix involved here. And two, the very premise of the subject about the study of what UFOs are has no objective suggestions on how to study UFOs. What’s new here? I would say only the dogma about a threat.

One pilot said, to paraphrase… Wow, if they would have hit us it would have killed all of us.
Well, I would think that if you ran into anything in that sky both you and whatever hit you would all be dead…it doesn’t have to be an ET craft.

They stick closely to that premise of a threat and it seems to me they want to convince us it’s a threat since that is their operating thesis apparently.
I don’t think they have anything to base that on.

And I don’t think they add any objective new ideas to Ufology. As we use to say...same oh...same oh.

Overall this show was watchable but its not the kind I would watch again.

Yea, this goes along with what I've been saying about them enhancing still pics with motion and the recreations having cloudy sky's when the pilots said it was clear etc. I suspect TTSA is providing the info and a History production team is making the show and taking some liberties in an attempt to make "exciting watchable" TV. It's their job to make entertainment even with reality shows. They forget the people into this stuff are watching no matter what. IDK maybe they think they will get more casual viewers if they try to make it edgy and add drama with "you could be killed by a UFO flying to visit grandma!!!!" You also don't know how much (of the TTSA staff meetings, solo talk) is scripted by History and TTSA goes along with it because they have bills to pay. Not saying its right, just that's how TV works. I'm also not saying they are totally making stuff up, just emphasizing some things that may not matter for drama purposes. If they are alien craft I highly doubt we need to worry about a collision. If the stories are true and they were 100 ft under a plane then they can fly just fine and avoid collisions.

They could do this same show with birds as they bring down planes lol. "Don't let his sweet little face fool you, if this bird has a chance he'll kill you and everyone else on this plane!!!" Murder Birds! This Tuesday on History!

I noticed towards the end of the show Lou was asking why the ufo's seem to be interested in our nuclear facilities, and now airplanes. My guess would be they are checking out our technology and it's current capabilities, plus they want to see how ants fly, LOL!

originally posted by: ChiefD

originally posted by: charlyv
a reply to: ChiefD

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Yeah, I get that, but I get very annoyed when people post crap like that. It contributes nothing. I have absolutely no tolerance for trolls. That was definitely a troll post. Sucks to be a control freak sometimes.

I know what you mean, friend, but it is the world we live in. Some people just enjoy finding the most negative thing they can say or do irregardless of what the subject is. It goes from simple conversations like this, to what we see going on in many of our major cities. Total disrespect for anyone's rights and opinions.

a reply to: 111DPKING111
As far as I know an alien craft has NEVER ran into an airplane.

Of course, there are many reports( unreliable) of crashed alien saucers but so far none has flew into a plane.

And as for TTSAs threat obsession. As far as I know not one UFO has ever attacked any human anything.
Unless you want to accept the alien abduction stuff.

originally posted by: Willtell
As far as I know not one UFO has ever attacked any human anything.
Unless you want to accept the alien abduction stuff.

They have on occasion. However, most of the time people appear to get hurt around UFOs it's either by accident (like with the Falcon Lake encounter), or because they decide to shoot at it first.

originally posted by: Blue Shift

originally posted by: Willtell
As far as I know not one UFO has ever attacked any human anything.
Unless you want to accept the alien abduction stuff.

They have on occasion. However, most of the time people appear to get hurt around UFOs it's either by accident (like with the Falcon Lake encounter), or because they decide to shoot at it first.

Last season they had Italian officials claiming a military helicopter was attacked by a UFO, but even if it's to be believed military is different than civilian. If you get into all that speculation we have shot weapons at them in the past so they may retaliate in certain circumstances but it's all just claims with no proof.

Usually civilian "harm" is abduction or exposure to some sort of radiation from the craft. Again, hard to prove.

originally posted by: Willtell
a reply to: 111DPKING111
As far as I know an alien craft has NEVER ran into an airplane.

Of course, there are many reports( unreliable) of crashed alien saucers but so far none has flew into a plane.

I know of 2 cases where a crash supposedly occurred, and others of intimidation like the Carlos Antonio case on the front page now.

But you often hear people say flying is the safest form of travel, I think it is a weak angle to try and get congress to do something. After witnessing that hearing with AG Barr though, they arent the brightest crayons in the box, it might work.

And as for TTSAs threat obsession. As far as I know not one UFO has ever attacked any human anything.
Unless you want to accept the alien abduction stuff.

Not much to go on with abductions, if they are happening, there isnt much proof. There is a case involving a Nordic hair strand you might find interesting. - link1 , link2

One of the better cases does involve an attack, amazing we dont know more about it as the attacks continued as the military rolled in to observe. - link1 , link2

Certainly there are others.

a reply to: 111DPKING111

Thank you for these interesting links

Just saw where the next episode is called " UFO Cover ups". Should be entertaining. Maybe they will get some people who have inside knowledge of this.

originally posted by: data5091
a reply to: FishBait

Seen just about every Pilot and Astronaut episode on any show related to ufo's, ....:

Were there any astronaut stories this time, I missed it? Which ones do you consider the best evidence for anomalous stimuli?