Trying to resolve 9/11

a reply to: democracydemo

It’s already debunked. There is noting in the video, audio, seismic evidence to give any indication the normal explosions expected from a fire like Air Condition Units. refrigerating units, pressurized tanks letting loose on mechanical floors had the force to create a pressure wave that could cut columns.

If there were detentions with the force to create pressure waves with the energy to cut columns, the frequencies that you invoked would have left tell tale signs in the seismic data. It’s no there. Again, the question was “ By frequency, how can you tell if a fire cracker sets off vs a pressurized air conditioning unit exploding in a fire. Other then the ac unit exploding would be more forceful. Again, nobody is say there were no explosions. But, keep on making your own reality.“

a reply to: neutronflux

Response from an empty coat debunker.

originally posted by: democracydemo
a reply to: neutronflux

Response from an empty coat debunker.

And Chemtrails are real. And we never landed on the Moon. Ignorance prevails.

originally posted by: democracydemo
a reply to: neutronflux

Response from an empty coat debunker.

God bless and Merry Christmas to you too.

a reply to: schuyler

Ignorance prevails.

Never

Ignorance is only lack of knowledge. We, Homo sapiens, are by design to gather knowledge.

a reply to: democracydemo

How does willful ignorance (confirmation bias) factor in?

It's just like arguing that the Roadrunner ran right through a rock mountain, while Wile E Coyote slammed into it, which is taken as if it were a fact, unless the specific method of faking it is proven.

When you think the roadrunner went through a rock mountain, and try to prove how it was faked, that's arguing about chips, temperatures, when it is not based on reality, to begin with.

All this cartoon physics won't work.

a reply to: turbonium1

Is trigonometry a cartoon?
Or is the Earth "variable?"

originally posted by: kwakakev
Is sad to see the war machine resorting to sacrificing its own citizens to get things started.

The word you were looking for was "pawn".

a reply to: Snarl

Prawns are delicious when fried with garlic.

Oh... never mind.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: turbonium1

Is trigonometry a cartoon?
Or is the Earth "variable?"

After they created their amazing story, that the Earth was a massive spheroid, trigonometry based on more unproven claims is not proof of anything.

Airplanes prove the Earth is flat, without a doubt.

a reply to: turbonium1

trigonometry based on more unproven claims

Rightyo!

Just hope you never have the need to actually navigate anywhere. Especially using GPS.

a reply to: schuyler

Exactly! Ignorance and credulity.

We knew exactly what we were doing invading Afghanistan and Iraq and Vietnam. Saddam probably still has those WMDs somewhere, and Bill Clinton did not have sexual relations with that woman!

a reply to: Phage

How does willful ignorance (confirmation bias) factor in?

Good question. Willful ignorance allows one to maintain their world view and the perceptions that form it. It provides a false sense of security with a lazy intellectual argument. For the individual that willfully applies ignorance in discourse, they fail to grow in understanding of the issues while promoting an agenda consistent with their perceptions. By purposefully ignoring an uncomfortable fact that challenges ones beliefs, it demonstrates an immature world view and a resistance to further enhancing these perceptions. A closed mind.

How this factors in with trying to resolve 9/11 is an endless loop that won't. Without being able to alter ones perceptions to fit in with the facts, there is no way out. Perhaps the willful ignorance wants this as a goal? If they are a part of the deception behind these events or at least supporting those that are, then no resolution protects the real perpetrators. Justice delayed is justice denied. With this type of motivation for ignorance, the individual already knowns who done it, they just want to stop anyone else from learning it through consistent side tracks and diversions. A cloak of deception.

When first being introduced to the 9/11 topic it is a confusing mess. Lots of things don't add up and lots of conflicting stories. After years of sifting through the details, the picture that emerges is very troubling. I have seen willful ignorance in others when going through some of the evidence. It is easier to think WTC7 did kill its self than to question the trust we have in our government and media.

a reply to: Phage

It is simply what you said, willful. This individual refuses to acquire knowledge.

Confirmation bias is the road to willful ignorance.

originally posted by: kwakakev
a reply to: Phage

How does willful ignorance (confirmation bias) factor in?

Good question. Willful ignorance allows one to maintain their world view and the perceptions that form it. It provides a false sense of security with a lazy intellectual argument. For the individual that willfully applies ignorance in discourse, they fail to grow in understanding of the issues while promoting an agenda consistent with their perceptions. By purposefully ignoring an uncomfortable fact that challenges ones beliefs, it demonstrates an immature world view and a resistance to further enhancing these perceptions. A closed mind.

How this factors in with trying to resolve 9/11 is an endless loop that won't. Without being able to alter ones perceptions to fit in with the facts, there is no way out. Perhaps the willful ignorance wants this as a goal? If they are a part of the deception behind these events or at least supporting those that are, then no resolution protects the real perpetrators. Justice delayed is justice denied. With this type of motivation for ignorance, the individual already knowns who done it, they just want to stop anyone else from learning it through consistent side tracks and diversions. A cloak of deception.

When first being introduced to the 9/11 topic it is a confusing mess. Lots of things don't add up and lots of conflicting stories. After years of sifting through the details, the picture that emerges is very troubling. I have seen willful ignorance in others when going through some of the evidence. It is easier to think WTC7 did kill its self than to question the trust we have in our government and media.

It is not so much that they believe the story, because many of them don't believe it, or doubt it, but they never speak about it, for whatever reasons.

Most of the time, people stay silent, in the belief that they have no power, and cannot do anything about it, anyway, so they don't even bother trying....

Like the murder of JFK, people do not believe the official story of 9/11 as true, but they feel powerless to approach the subject further, so nobody does, and the murdering scum gets away with it, as usual.

9/11 was worse, in many ways, than JFK. Because 9/11 led to wars against a fake enemy, who lived in a cave, and it wasn't relevant if it was believed, or not, since the military follows orders, and it became about war, soon after, since they already 'knew' who did it, so let's get over there, and wipe them out, okay?

9/11 fueled the never-ending war on 'terrorism', since 9/11 was done by terrorists. They soon labelled people as a 'terrorist', from a 'terrorist country', while immigration from 'terrorist countries' was flourishing, which made 'terrorism' possible in America, too.

a reply to: turbonium1

Fear is a factor to consider in this. Brining attention to nasty people can have nasty implications. The Clinton body count is just one recent example of many. It does start to bring in spiritual aspects in how we confront this fear. Take the money and be quite or speak up and be persecuted.

Former CIA Asset EXPOSES 9/11 Cover Up Tells All Susan Lindauer


Susan Lindauer was an overt CIA asset who worked in Iraq and Libya. Her aim was to put an end to the sanctions going on and was a back channel for negotiations. After 9/11 her handler got $13 Million for going along with the official story while Susan got indited for 5 years under the patriot act for speaking up. She got 1 year incarceration, was facing 10 years incarceration and being drugged without trial.

When we do honor the sacrifices for our way of life, where do you want to stand? Alive is good, I do not want to perpetuate the evil. Having the courage to speak up can put things on the line. What is worth fighting for?

a reply to: kwakakev

Susan Lindauer? So? What controlled demolition theory does she preach? Is she a no jet hit the WTC/pentagon? Please cite, “ After 9/11 her handler got $13 Million for going along with the official story while Susan got indited for 5 years under the patriot act“, what official story she would not go along with?


Or just another broad rant of innuendo to create a false argument?

a reply to: neutronflux

Perhaps if you really cared about working out 9/11 you would check it out rather than throwing around more diversions.