Starting Today, Britain Will Be Banning 'Harmful' Gender Stereotypes From Ads

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Freeborn

If they can successfully manipulate the population with this, then it opens the door for a far deeper engineered change per government whim.

It's not the government involved.

The ASA is an independent watchdog like every regulator in the UK they are separate from government, if the public trigger enough complaints then an advert is reviewed or an inquiry held.

The inquiry is a review of the guidelines that the ASA abide by, the panel consists of a cross parliamentary select comite (fancy words for smorgasbord of politicians from numerous parties and viewpoints, separate from the ruling government) hear evidence from the public, scientists, experts yada, yada.... this process sets the guidelines of the Comitees of Advertising Practice (CAP) if the public don't like the result they can write to CAP to review the policy (5000 people = mandatory review IIRC).

a reply to: InTheLight

Advertising is only "fat shaming" if you think it is. How weak minded are you if you think that the only way you can feel good about yourself is if you see someone exactly like you in the popular media?

No one in the media looks exactly like me. I don't have boobs like those. My nose is too big, and I never wear makeup if I can help it. I prefer to be natural although clean and groomed.

That's not the ad girl of choice and I've never felt any less because of it, but then, I go out and make my own achievements. I know my self worth and all too often today, people let others tell them they're worthwhile instead of discovering it for themselves.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: InTheLight

People are perfectly free to be who and what they choses to be and what they are.
All people need is the ability to think for themselves.

I hardly fit any of the desired images projected by these advertising agencies etc and I don't feel pressurised to conform to them.
That's because I have a strong sense of who and what I am.
I accept not everyone has that personal strength.....it should be encouraged from birth, through education and into adulthood.

If people feel pressurised to conform to anything then I personally think that's more down to their own personal weaknesses and failings than anything else.

Young people have a lot to learn and advertising that manipulates and lies to them is detrimental to learning life's truths.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: InTheLight

Advertising is only "fat shaming" if you think it is. How weak minded are you if you think that the only way you can feel good about yourself is if you see someone exactly like you in the popular media?

No one in the media looks exactly like me. I don't have boobs like those. My nose is too big, and I never wear makeup if I can help it. I prefer to be natural although clean and groomed.

That's not the ad girl of choice and I've never felt any less because of it, but then, I go out and make my own achievements. I know my self worth and all too often today, people let others tell them they're worthwhile instead of discovering it for themselves.

No, some advertising deliberately fat shames to sell products and their target audience is not you or me who know they are worthwhile. Not everybody is as blessed.

a reply to: InTheLight

Whos truths?

Because one Mans truth is another's lie.

If young people, millennials, in particular, refuse or are unable to think for themselves is there own darn fault.

Not our fault the majority of them spend they live in their parent's basement and cannot interface with the rest of the planet in a meaningful manner.

And we wonder why they are obese ffs? LoL

Soon you will see an ad with the dad black, the mom white, one kid is Spanish, one Asian, one is a white girl with red hair, lesbian and fat and the oldest sister is a middle easterner in a burka...

And they are going to say Hmmm we need more diversity...

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: InTheLight

Whos truths?

Because one Mans truth is another's lie.

If young people, millennials, in particular, refuse or are unable to think for themselves is there own darn fault.

Not our fault the majority of them spend they live in their parent's basement and cannot interface with the rest of the planet in a meanifull manner.

All young people are different, some can think for themselves, others cant' - same as adults, exampled here on ATS.

Some young people aren't raised with a sense of self-worth and are very impressionable - same as some adults, exampled here on ATS that have to attack and ridicule others.

So let's look at manipulative lying in advertising and call it for what it is - propaganda used to change a point of view to sell a product.

a reply to: InTheLight

Well, would that not be there parents fault as opposed to advertisements then?

Stupid things happen to stupid people, obesity being only one of those things.

This is simply politically correct motivated madness, nothing more, nothing less.

So men should be lazy an helpless like a damsel in drag, while woman should do all the work an heavy labor like an actual strong independent woman, while getting paid at socialist rate an popping babies out?

I'm cool with that. Get the fudge back to work woman!!!

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: InTheLight

Well, would that not be there parents fault as opposed to advertisements then?

Stupid things happen to stupid people, obesity being only one of those things.

This is simply politically correct motivated madness, nothing more, nothing less.

It was brought on by a petition by the U.K. people and sent to the people that have powers who then took it where it needed to go. I know, unheard of in the U.S.A. so I can understand your confusion.

Where to lay blame? So many roads to travel for that one. I thought of a new phrase - 'predatory advertising' - psyops for profit.

a reply to: InTheLight

But I'm in Glasgow.

Petition by the U.K or otherwise the confusion lies with the idiots that canny think for themselves.

Or the parents that did not educate them to do so.

All advertising is predatory by its very nature, it amounts to fishing really with a hook for humans.

But you don't need to bite it if you dont like the taste.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: InTheLight

But I'm in Glasgow.

Petition by the U.K or otherwise the confusion lies with the idiots that canny think for themselves.

Or the parents that did not educate them to do so.

All advertising is predatory by its very nature, it amounts to fishing really with a hook for humans.

But you don't need to bite it if you dont like the taste.

But if you have no self worth, no self esteem, and your programmed peers are fat shaming you or whatever shaming is the taste of the day, of course that person will take a big bite.

I think with advertisements that are aiming at people to lose weight should have real people - before and after - with their commentary on the product's efficacy. Instead we see bikini clad young women who have never used the product and are portrayed at what the product can achieve. How many ways does this harm the purchaser besides laying out lots of cash?

a reply to: InTheLight

I was always taught to lead and never follow.

My own kids are inclined to do the same.

Self-worth and self-esteem come from education, love, and attention.

Fat people should not be fat InTheLight if they can possibly help it.

If that's there lifestyle choice then they should be ashamed, never mind afraid of what in the post to come.

But I'm not up for blaming billboards for there poor life choices I'm afraid.

So are they finally tipping their hand by saying advertising and media itself is deeply influential and manipulative? And can alter one's course of thinking? That what is shown needs to be regulated and controlled to avoid making people think the wrong way?

Oh that's soooooo not fair, the UK having commercial breaks removed from television entirely and now people can just enjoy straight up uninterrupted programming.


!?!?well um...yea. it said gender stereotypes even if stereotypes are often true. And see, commercials are psychologically manipulative right? And after youve seen all of it you get bored the second, third, hundredth time right? Commercials are anniying as hell and their volume is always unbearably loud and obnoxious right?? And instead of commercials just saying what they came to say they do it in a long drawn out indirect way right? And too much of it and u just wanna jump off a cliff right!?!?

Well so are/do wome.....whats that u say? You....you mean that's not how it wor....

:: Pulls collar from neck ::

Oh gee...

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: InTheLight

I was always taught to lead and never follow.

My own kids are inclined to do the same.

Self-worth and self-esteem come from education, love, and attention.

Fat people should not be fat InTheLight if they can possibly help it.

If that's there lifestyle choice then they should be ashamed, never mind afraid of what in the post to come.

But I'm not up for blaming billboards for there poor life choices I'm afraid.

The point here is false advertising, predatory advertising that does harm. Again, not all big people are overweight and unhealthy, but advertising tells us that anything beyond a skinny model is - what you just posted - poor life choices, so buy our product and make the right life choice.

www.self.com...

originally posted by: Specimen
So men should be lazy an helpless like a damsel in drag, while woman should do all the work an heavy labor like an actual strong independent woman, while getting paid at socialist rate an popping babies out?

I'm cool with that. Get the fudge back to work woman!!!

Al Bundy in drag...

Only the Devil could think of it, while God the only being who could stand it without blowing his brains.

a reply to: shawmanfromny

I agree, a minority of busybodies shaping and molding society in their own image and likeness. It's all very sinister and one wonders where it will all end. Free speech and freedom of expression are under attack like never before.

But it's okay apparently for a lefty comedian (Jo Brand) to suggest that a perceived right wing politician (Nigel Farage) should be dowsed in battery acid.

This was an incitement to violence but the police are taking no action.

a reply to: InTheLight

Advertising does not tell us that.

Advertising simply does what it says on the tin.

It's up to the people whether or not they choose to swallow what's being shoveled.

Overweight people are unhealthy, that's indisputable.

Big people are just tall ffs, not fat.

Make your own life choices is the point and advertisement presents things to choose from.

Where would our first world nations and capitalism, in general, be without advertisements?

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: InTheLight

Advertising does not tell us that.

Advertising simply does what it says on the tin.

It's up to the people whether or not they choose to swallow what's being shoveled.

Overweight people are unhealthy, that's indisputable.

Big people are just tall ffs, not fat.

Make your own life choices is the point and advertisement presents things to choose from.

Where would our first world nations and capitalism, in general, be without advertisements?

The debate is over - 65% yes, 35% no.

www.debate.org...