House dems want a raise for all that hard work.

www.foxnews.com...

House Democrats on Monday evening abruptly halted an effort to increase congressional pay for the first time since 2009, saying the proposal would be reviewed carefully after several freshmen Democrats made overt efforts to block it. Members of Congress generally make $174,000 per year, with senior leaders earning more, and no cost-of-living adjustments have been made in the past nine years. However, vulnerable swing-state Democrats, concerned how the proposed $4,500 pay hike would look if it didn't also have Republican support, had signed onto amendments rejecting the measure.

So they want a raise, but the bulk of what they do is oppose Trump. That sure doesn't take a lot of thought. Whatever Trump says, do the opposite. Just like you have been doing. Perhaps getting a second job would be the answer.

But wait, a savior is emerging!

"It’s not even like a raise," Ocasio-Cortez said. She called opposition to the pay increase "superficial. ... This is why there's so much pressure to turn to lobbying firms and to cash in on member service after people leave, because precisely of this issue." Ocasio-Cortez added that both members of Congress and people making minimum wage deserve more money.

Perhaps she could give the $4500 to a charity, since it's such a superficial amount.

I had a wild thought. What about EARNING YOUR DAMN MONEY?

But in the end, they always seem to approve the raises.

a reply to: network dude

I agree with AOC, "people making minimum wage deserve more money." What really needs to be done is "part-time" workers need to be only 20 hours not 30. The US is very anti-worker. All the laws are in the corporations favor.

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: network dude

I agree with AOC, "people making minimum wage deserve more money." What really needs to be done is "part-time" workers need to be only 20 hours not 30. The US is very anti-worker. All the laws are in the corporations favor.

Kind of a different statement than saying congressman and woman deserve more money though.

I'm sure the congressional raise bill had allies in both camps though... Usually does.

a reply to: dfnj2015

People making $100 minimum wage are still making minimum wage.
All that would accomplish is giving everyone else a raise to compensate and that raises the prices of everything and nothing was gained.


But anyway.
I have no problem with our Congress critters getting paid $174k. The time they spend away from home and commuting is hard on families.
The real problem is the benefit package they receive with the golden parachutes.

Put em on social security and Medicare like the rest of us.

a reply to: network dude

They don't deserve the money they get now.

I say a 100% pay cut.

But if they're willing to take a throat-punch, I'll throw nickels at them.

a reply to: dfnj2015

If you don't wanna make minimum wage have a little more than minimum skills.

So, AOC goes from bartender to 174 k a year with all the perks and it's still not enough for the little Socalist.

My shocked face

originally posted by: DAVID64
So, AOC goes from bartender to 174 k a year with all the perks and it's still not enough for the little Socalist.

My shocked face

The irony is thick. I can't wait till that dingbat sees her tax bill for the year....

AOC's position doesn't address why civilian counterparts (lobbyists) make more. No pension, job security, travel perks....they make more to compensate for it. This happens with just about every government job when compared to contractors. Contracts end. There are normally breaks in their line of work with no work. I like her energy but she has no idea what she is talking about and why she doesn't want to debate anyone. She will be exposed on many topics.

a reply to: DAVID64

So, AOC goes from bartender to 174 k a year with all the perks and it's still not enough for the little Socalist.

Not a good look that she is putting this above other more pressing issues.

Maybe when we vote congressmen and women in we should be able to vote on what we want to see done. If they can't get that done, no raises, and maybe we could even get more creative on that structure. Tis only fair to have expectations for our employees.

originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: dfnj2015

If you don't wanna make minimum wage have a little more than minimum skills.

I don't disagree. I just don't think it is right for companies like Walmart not to pay livable wages to it's full time workers. On top of that, most Walmart workers qualify for government assistance on healthcare. Why should you and I pay for Walmart's workers healthcare? We need to change the "part-time" qualification from 30 hours back to 20 hours. And we need to raise minimum wage and have it based on some percentage or linked to some economic measure so it takes into account inflation.

I guess my beef with companies like Walmart is why should you and I subsidize their workers when the Walmart shareholders are enjoying billions of dollars of profit. I think Walmart should pay their fair share of social responsibility if they want to do business in America.

a reply to: dfnj2015

why is it that people forget how this all works? If you aren't happy with your current income, change it. if it requires you to adapt with new skills, then get those skills.

Honest question, should a guy who went to school for plumbing, and worked a few years as a journeyman, get the same wages as a burger flipper from Mcdonalds? if so, why?

a reply to: CriticalStinker

like a report card. I like that a lot.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: CriticalStinker

like a report card. I like that a lot.

No different than any other place of employment. You have an employee handbook or something of the sort, expectations set by a superior, and in many cases a yearly evaluation where you either get a raise, or a performance improvement plan (on the way out).

I also say they only get so many sick days, and so many bills they can do a no vote on. Your job is to represent us and vote, and some will do no votes on touchy issues because they don't want to rock the boat. Well, you have to vote, you can miss a few a year, and we get to see what your take is employee. Now let the cards fall where they may.

Here's an open question. . . .

What laws have not been written that need to be written?

Why do we still need full-time law makers when there are no more laws to be written?

a reply to: DBCowboy

What laws have not been written that need to be written?

They could rework the Espionage Act and the Patriot Act so that our constitutional rights can't be loopholed... If they do that they can all have their 175,000~ a year.

Edit: and also make it to where war has to be declared again rather than presidents just engaging in "conflicts".

a reply to: network dude

Raises should be voted on by we the people.

a reply to: network dude

They're only in Washington D.C. 147 days @ year. Let that sink in.

Most of them deserve nothing, well, nothing except criminal, sedition and/or treason charges. These wanker are busy taking care of everything but their constituents.

Cheers - Dave

a reply to: network dude

I have a hard time believing the Democrats,msm, and deep state can be this stupid.

It's hard to not believe that they WANT Trump elected as POTUS.

First Hillary the worst possible candidate ever ,that had to cheat her own party all the while under criminal investigation. Then they push pedo sniffer Biden as their chosen one and now this.

Surely they reached new levels of stupidity never seen before or they are in on it and want Trump elected.

The DNC and the MSM have been Trump's best campaigners by far, they got him elected and look like they are on a mission to do it again.

Can't fix stupid