Atlantis has been discovered?!

First observation is, the place is covered in "Ancient Ruins". At bit of logic.

The Portuguese discovered the Cape Verde Islands in AD 1456. Soon after the settlers arrived and swarmed the islands. But soon they learned the weather was not going to be advantageous for growing crops. In fact one of the first things you see are the vast number of Stepped gardens. And in fact so many and so prevalent that one, two, or three, or even 4 generations of migrants could not have created these works of wonders. They exist on some of the most inaccessible cliffs imaginable.

Next is the walls. Again, vast numbers going into areas only goats would venture. It would have taken a great deal of effort and manpower to accomplish. Something I seriously doubt the settlers could have accomplished during some of the most serious drought conditions imaginable. It is clear many, many of the stepped gardens are in the "Desert" portions of the Islands, which tends to make one think they must have been built when rain was more plentiful in the area. The weather patterns on the Islands are quite similar to Mauritania except Cape Verde ranks 20th driest compared to Mauritania's 7th driest places in the world (Except in the Highlands of the Islands).

The National religion is Catholic, and the migration into the island undoubtedly was lead by the Catholic priests. And as you might know, the Catholic Church takes a very dim view of ancient civilizations. I can imagine the parishioners coming to the priest with news of large rock piles and the Priest giving his blessing to using those "rocks" to form their new homes, villages.. Hence, ancient incomplete ruins on the outskirts of towns and villages.


This is an example of what might have ocured.

On the Island Of Maio an ancient site being destoryed, and its stones being used to build a 3 room building. As their are no roads, buildings, gardens in the area, or signs of modern use it is purly an act of willful destruction!


2005 Google Earth dipicts a single square foundation and to the South West an original small village. 15°11'53.04"N 23° 7'49.72"W


Present Satalite Pro shows there is now a 3 room building with no village remaining. The original square is the base of the large room and in the same position as the original square from 2005.

I can only imagine what it might have looked like before the Catholics arrived...…….

To set the age of this ancient civilization one simply has to consider this, untouched ancient village, under water! 15°16'15.64"N 23° 6'16.47"W



Thank God the Catholics didn't find this one... If the priests did found the settlements then undoubtedly he sent his reports to the Vatican. And those, would be found in the Vaults!

The SEA OF AZOV is probably the orginal center of ATLANTIS. Keep in mind that Atlantis was a WORLD WIDE CIVILIZATION composed of Megalithic ruins such as the pyramids and other gigantic structures that are found all over the world.

1. The Sea of Azov is the world's shallowest sea, only 30 feet at the deepest. Plato mentions that after the Great Flood when Atlantis was submerged, shallow muddy waters made it difficult to navigate the area.

2. Plato mentions the Straits of Hercules where rocks fell off cliffs into the sea. There are 2 Straits of Hercules. One of them is at the entrance to the Sea of Azov and the other at the straits of Gibraltar, entrance to the Mediterranean.

3. Plato talks of a wide and endless plain beyond the the canals of Atlantis. That would be the steppes of Russia.

4. According to Plato the Atlanteans attacked the Greeks. Why would the Atlanteans do that if it was located so far away, in North Africa or an island in the Mediterranean or the Atlantic Ocean? Greece is not a rich land and has little to offer. However that war makes sense if you consider the Greeks and Atlanteans were fighting over dominance of the Black Sea.

The Greeks were heavily invested in the Black Sea region. This was their source for gold, grain, horses and slaves. They were known as the PONTIC GREEKS. They built many cities along the Black Sea coast and they are still there.

4. Before the great flood approx. 11,000 years ago, the low lying lands now called the Sea of Azov was dry land. Later the ancients called it Lake Maeotis. The water is brackish - both salt and fresh.

There are other points in favor of this location for Atlantis.

a reply to: Drakon

Keep in mind that Atlantis was a WORLD WIDE CIVILIZATION composed of Megalithic ruins such as the pyramids and other gigantic structures that are found all over the world.

The upper class would have occupied the large structures. The common mans fait was of simple existence, simple homes. But yes, it was a global society that touched every continent, with some exceptions.


Im still convinced the "eye" was the Societies capital. There may have been regional capitals in other locations, but the "Eye" is plato's "Atlantis".

originally posted by: Oldtimer2
a reply to: All Seeing Eye

I think to discover old towns etc,need to look underground,can see on google maps coast areas were coastline was a few hundred miles farther out,some areas went from sea level to 14,000 ft others 14,000 to underwater or under mud and debris from tsunami's volcanoes

There is a small settlement just outside the rings to the south. Its fenced in so "Someone" knows its there. By the looks of it, its really old, and it is emerging out of the sand.

Google Earth is a wast of time. Use satellites.pro

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Why does the idea that there was actually an ancient civilization of Atlantis have to be a fairy tale???? Plato never said their was flying robots or jets, He simply said they were equal too or greater than his own ancient civilization. We know there was massive floods during the time Plato said Atlantis flooded, so why is it so far fetched to mainstream academia? There were probably hundreds of sunken cities during those times of great sea rise!!! Maybe Atlantis, if it is simply legend, represents the accumulative story of all of those lost cities of that distant time and horrible event of flooding. Either way, it is absolutely ignorant to discredit Plato as being a fraud, or his Uncle.


If the Eye of the Sahara is the true location of Atlantis, I recommend that you check out this website. floodmap.net
It allows the user to change the water elevation of the oceans on the planet. When you click on the link below, you will see the Eye of the Sahara existing when the water levels are at a point where the island structure takes on the recognizable form of a ringed island. I had to increase the ocean’s level by 430 meters (1,411 feet) over its current level, to get that to happen.

What’s more interesting is when you zoom out on the website's map and see what the rest of the planet looked like under that much water.
Including Giza, where the Great pyramid is located. This may imply that the timelines of history that we've been taught, are not very accurate.

originally posted by: polofemilimc46

If the Eye of the Sahara is the true location of Atlantis, I recommend that you check out this website. floodmap.net
It allows the user to change the water elevation of the oceans on the planet. When you click on the link below, you will see the Eye of the Sahara existing when the water levels are at a point where the island structure takes on the recognizable form of a ringed island. I had to increase the ocean’s level by 430 meters (1,411 feet) over its current level, to get that to happen.

If all the ice caps in the world melted, oceans would still only rise by 70m/230 ft

At the time Plato said Atlantis existed, sea levels were much lower than today.

originally posted by: AndyMayhew

originally posted by: polofemilimc46

If the Eye of the Sahara is the true location of Atlantis, I recommend that you check out this website. floodmap.net
It allows the user to change the water elevation of the oceans on the planet. When you click on the link below, you will see the Eye of the Sahara existing when the water levels are at a point where the island structure takes on the recognizable form of a ringed island. I had to increase the ocean’s level by 430 meters (1,411 feet) over its current level, to get that to happen.

If all the ice caps in the world melted, oceans would still only rise by 70m/230 ft

At the time Plato said Atlantis existed, sea levels were much lower than today.

There are only 2 icecaps. Just talking about the water, what if...

Anarctica holds a great deal of ice/ water, why? Because its on solid land. The arctic / North pole is on, what, water? How high can you stack ice on water? Every year it cycles out.

Now, let say the "Frozen Zone" , the center of it, is moved approx 1500 toward Russia (centered on Magnetic North). Now, Ice would be able to stack up on dry land just like the South Pole. In fact, maybe even more.

Then there is another possibility, that more water was dumped on the earth to bring the sea levels up. Now on the face of that one might think that impossible. But when you open your field of view to other "Evidence" it becomes very possible, in fact, probable. Now, figure in that both, the rotational axis of the planet was moved, and water added, wala, you have what you see today.

The "Evidence" for this is at the bottom of the oceans, and can be seen by using google earth and researching the age of the ocean beds. To see how it, or how often it was done study the oxygen content of amber throughout the ages. It tells the story.

Its all basic Science. NOT, political (highly controlled) science!

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
First observation is, the place is covered in "Ancient Ruins". At bit of logic.

It looks like the logic here didn't include a very deep dive into the history of the place.

In fact one of the first things you see are the vast number of Stepped gardens. And in fact so many and so prevalent that one, two, or three, or even 4 generations of migrants could not have created these works of wonders. They exist on some of the most inaccessible cliffs imaginable.

I'm... not sure where you got this idea, but it's not that hard to build a terraced or stepped garden by hand. Actual photos of the gardens show hand-stacked walls and garden plots that are around eight feet wide and 30 feet long in many places and retaining walls of 10-20 feet in height. Anybody who gardens can tell you that something that size can be done in less than a month. You'd need several for each family, though, since that's not enough food production area for one family. The ones around Miraduro, for instance, pale in comparison to the vineyards around the Rhine in Germany.

Again, vast numbers going into areas only goats would venture.

Let me guess... you're doing this from "satellite research" and tourist photos and not from the ground (living in Cape Verde and driving around). You'd be surprised how accessible those spots can be.

It is clear many, many of the stepped gardens are in the "Desert" portions of the Islands, which tends to make one think they must have been built when rain was more plentiful in the area.

Or you're looking at photos from the dry season and are not aware of the water management practices they have or the crops they're growing.

... and the migration into the island undoubtedly was lead by the Catholic priests.

Well, no, and in fact it was one of the places they exiled Jews to during the Inquisition en.wikipedia.org... and a stopover spot for the slave trade. It was a place for sailors and explorers and had a pretty rowdy reputation.

Hence, ancient incomplete ruins on the outskirts of towns and villages.

They're not that old, really.

Currently the population is about the same as the population of the state of Wyoming. Since their discovery, the islands have been home to hundreds of thousands of people. It's not a deserted place with only a handful of families and historically (since the 1500's) has had a lot of people there.

If there was something ancient there, the government would be sending out archaeologists and promoting it as a tourist site to make money. They wouldn't be hiding anything, since ancient ruins are a very hot tourist destination and archaeological dig permits are a good source of income.

Seriously.

Archaeologists don't get to dig for free. Gotta pay the land owners and the government.

a reply to: Byrd

Certainly your points are valid.

Now, pick this one apart.

To set the age of this ancient civilization one simply has to consider this, untouched ancient village, under water! 15°16'15.64"N 23° 6'16.47"W

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The continent Atlantis was the middle part of Laurasia and Gondwana landmass in mesozoic times with the Thetys ocean floating around.
The time before africa and south america parted.

The legendary continent Mu was the lower part( later Antarctica, australia, India).

Those times the climate was more a moderate the air very moist.

mankind was still not fully materially incarnated into this world but existed more in a spiritual form.
later man-ape animals were the first attempts of mankind doing that, leaving those early forms as a material rest behind.

originally posted by: anti72
The continent Atlantis was the middle part of Laurasia and Gondwana landmass in mesozoic times with the Thetys ocean floating around.
The time before africa and south america parted.

The legendary continent Mu was the lower part( later Antarctica, australia, India).

Those times the climate was more a moderate the air very moist.

mankind was still not fully materially incarnated into this world but existed more in a spiritual form.
later man-ape animals were the first attempts of mankind doing that, leaving those early forms as a material rest behind.

I concur. Mankind and his spiritual counter part has been here for a very long time. That continental parting started around 70 million years ago, if one can trust the highly controlled scientific communities aging process. And the same time period of the extinction of the Dinosaurs. Which by the way, many dino bone beds have been found where it appeared as though they were placed their like a log jam, in a flood. HINT HINT.

The history of global oxygen content, prior to the 70 million mark was 30-36%, and constant going back hundreds of millions of years. After the 70 million mark a odd thing happens, the oxygen content takes a nose dive, each time going back up to its high, then another cycle of dropping very low. There were at least 3 times it does this, but afterwards does not go back to its high. We now have 18-21% content. The highly controlled scientific community will tell you it was caused by a meteorite. The skies were filled with thick dust for years killing off the oxygen producing trees. What else will kill off trees? Submerged trees can not produce oxygen!

So yes my friend I agree, the world was a paradise, before the terra farming started, and "they" moved in.

Oh, Sitchen, he was only wrong because he was given "Wrong" information. He translated the worlds first disinformation campaign...

Sorry, seems I stayed off topic, or did I?

a reply to: Byrd

And you were saying?........

I give you this while you contemplate. Nice, soothing, calming... No rush, the aquatic village isn't going anywhere, and neither am I

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
a reply to: Byrd

Certainly your points are valid.

Now, pick this one apart.

To set the age of this ancient civilization one simply has to consider this, untouched ancient village, under water! 15°16'15.64"N 23° 6'16.47"W

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I'll be honest... I don't see any ancient village here under the water.

What is it that you're looking at? I see some geologic layering (see this photo ) typical of the area. I don't see any ruins. I see some recent roads, too.

originally posted by: anti72
The continent Atlantis was the middle part of Laurasia and Gondwana landmass in mesozoic times with the Thetys ocean floating around.
The time before africa and south america parted.

Then how could it have conquered all of the Mediterranean except for Athens and then been defeated by Athens? You're talking 260 million years before humans, civilizations, etc. And how could the Egyptians have known about that?

Honestly, I think these formations are far closer to what is seen, under the waves.

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If, these "Walls" are eventually explored first hand, and confirmed, that would mean they were created prior to 11000 years ago.

But then again, some folks only see what they were trained to see.. or not...

I guess that's the difference between denying, and defying, ignorance...

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
The history of global oxygen content, prior to the 70 million mark was 30-36%, and constant going back hundreds of millions of years.

Whatever you are using for data needs an update. The 30% was 500 million years ago when the plants emerged and took over. After that, it drops.

After the 70 million mark a odd thing happens, the oxygen content takes a nose dive, each time going back up to its high, then another cycle of dropping very low. There were at least 3 times it does this, but afterwards does not go back to its high.

I'd like to see a source on this because it's not matching what I'm seeing. There's only a 2 percent difference (or so) between the oxygen levels 70 million years ago and today.

We now have 18-21% content. The highly controlled scientific community will tell you it was caused by a meteorite. The skies were filled with thick dust for years killing off the oxygen producing trees. What else will kill off trees? Submerged trees can not produce oxygen!

(raises hand) Speaking as a member of the scientific community (and although I'm not a plaeobotanist or paleochemist or paleontologist) i would sincerely like to know who says this. Because I've never heard that (and I did work for some paleontologists) The Chixhulub meteor was at 90 million years, and it wasn't the meteor so much as it was also the Deccan traps and a few other things. And it didn't cause a blip in oxygenation, as far as I know. The secondary spike shown in the Wikipedia diagram was at 150 million years

And that's what all the scientists I know say (admittedly that's only about 15 of them, but includes geologists, paleontologists, and a planetologist.)

If you have solid contrary evidence, I would like to see the links.

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye
Honestly, I think these formations are far closer to what is seen, under the waves.

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If, these "Walls" are eventually explored first hand, and confirmed, that would mean they were created prior to 11000 years ago.

But then again, some folks only see what they were trained to see.. or not...

I guess that's the difference between denying, and defying, ignorance...

Seriously, I'm not seeing them at all. Can you find (on Google Earth) some photos of the area from tourists or ships that show the coastline as you drive up to it or whatever?

a reply to: Byrd

Whatever you are using for data needs an update. The 30% was 500 million years ago when the plants emerged and took over. After that, it drops.

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: anti72
The continent Atlantis was the middle part of Laurasia and Gondwana landmass in mesozoic times with the Thetys ocean floating around.
The time before africa and south america parted.

Then how could it have conquered all of the Mediterranean except for Athens and then been defeated by Athens? You're talking 260 million years before humans, civilizations, etc. And how could the Egyptians have known about that?

yes, these are traditional stories, handed over, memories of memories which go back to Solon maybe.
I dont think there is a real possibility to find a 'huge ancient culture' that got 'hidden' or 'undetected' in the size of a continent in the time of 10000 BC.
Maybe the small last rests of that island sunk into the atlantic after the subsiding of the Last Glacial Period .

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye

Anarctica holds a great deal of ice/ water, why? Because its on solid land. The arctic / North pole is on, what, water? How high can you stack ice on water? Every year it cycles out.

The northern ice cap is on Greenland

Now, let say the "Frozen Zone" , the center of it, is moved approx 1500 toward Russia (centered on Magnetic North). Now, Ice would be able to stack up on dry land just like the South Pole. In fact, maybe even more.

Except that has never happened. And anyway, as per above, the northern polar ice cap is already on land.

Besides, if there were bigger ice caps the sea levels would be lower. The amount of water we have - whether liquid in oceans or frozen in ice caps - remains the same regardless of where and how large the ice caps are.

Then there is another possibility, that more water was dumped on the earth to bring the sea levels up.

From where? Magic? And then all magically removed again? All with no geological evidence?

Its all basic Science. NOT, political (highly controlled) science!

Yes, it's all very basic science. Something you clearly have no understanding of!