The Importance of Belief

a reply to: Itisnowagain

space disappears without observation and then reappears with observation......

a reply to: Itisnowagain

space disappears without observation and then reappears with observation......

a reply to: 316stee420

Thought happens and action happens but there is no individual doer or actor.

Everything is simlpy just happening.

This is happening..... it is not made of separate things.

Dreaming with no dream and no dreamer.

originally posted by: 316stee420
a reply to: Itisnowagain

space disappears without observation and then reappears with observation......

When is there no observation?

God is all seeing and ever present.

a reply to: eurhythmic

Belief without factual evidence to support such amounts to a leap of faith.

Never mind your Mammy telling you to look before you leap?

a reply to: Itisnowagain

God is within you, god is within me, god is outwith you, god is outwith me, what you say is very vague like a very simplified view of the interconnection of absolutely everything within the "game" world god cannot be humanised as it is beyond comprehension...... god is here, god is now you cannot say god is elsewhere because that would be assuming that elsewhere exists until you see it with your own eyes.....we don't know if god can see so I wouldn't suggest it is all seeing but it is all knowing and when you think with godhead you too become all knowing.....

a reply to: 316stee420

You cannot become all knowing...... but it can be recognised that 'knowingness or observingness' is your true nature.

You cannot do anything...... but you are aware of what is occuring.

Reality is like a self aware movie.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

I find your point of view interesting...... but I don't see it as a self aware movie I see it as a fully interactive open world video game were I have the power to change events that are going to cause disharmony in my illusion

a reply to: 316stee420

No, that body is just part of the movie...... Watch closely to see if there is actually someone inside doing emotions or sensations or thoughts.

The next thought will arise at the same instant as knowing it.....
The knower and the known arsie as one seemless happening.

a reply to: 316stee420
Here is a 2 min discussion that may be of interest.

False belief, unfortunately has terrible consequences.
Otherwise I wouldn't mind.

I believe a mish mash of things, only a few of these do I believe to be true.

I think it's more important to have faith, than belief,
You never know what the 'random universe' will throw your way

a reply to: rom12345

Do you not need to believe to have faith through?

a reply to: andy06shake
I hope there is a benevolent God,
but I don't know the mechanism
which is fine by me.

a reply to: rom12345

Best to hedge one's bets i suppose.

As long as it's fine by God.

Considering the grand scheme of things the mechanism, if there is such, is probably so far beyond our grasp and comprehension so as to appear infinite for all intent and purpose.

originally posted by: glend
a reply to: Nothin

Descartes "I think, therefore I am" assumes fundamental being is derived from the thinking mind. That was 3000+ years after Hindu philosophers went deeper than the thinking mind itself to absolute stillness. Yet the fundamental "I AM" never extinguished. You can explore that yourself in deep meditation as I have done.

Then there is the Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser Experiment that tells us that the act of knowing can influence the behaviour of particles.

"I think, therefore I am" is a belief you cannot prove. But it is something people want to believe.

Hmmmm. Don't feel any other option than to assume you haven't been able to see the video in question.
The idea of a separate thinker is not discussed, as the cogito is reduced to it's purest form, being merely "I AM".
Is is beyond the separate thinker, conclusions, and all manner of interpretation.
Below it. Beneath, before, or how ever else we can comprehend 'further', or 'deeper'.

Not only is the primordial 'I AM' seen to be true, but the deeper meaning is that is is the ONLY truth.
The singular only thing anyone can ever know for sure.

Beliefs and faith are just another couple of flavors of the day in the big play.
They are just as meaningless as everything else.
It is only us silly hairless apes whom dream-up meaning to such things.

'silly hairless apes whom dream-up meaning' seems to be the purpose of planets.
in it's self quite meaningfull.

a reply to: rom12345

'silly hairless apes whom dream-up meaning' seems to be the purpose of planets. in it's self quite meaningfull.

You are free to believe anything you want.
Believe away that planets have purposes and porpoises.
Believe away that randomly conjured meaning is meaningful.

We were looking at what is left when all beliefs are removed.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

If one never experiences darkness they can never see the light.

truth is left.
I have faith that exists, but would hesitate to know it for sure.

a reply to: Nothin

I really couldn't stomach much of it. Its logic is wishy-washy. Preceding the primordial belief of I AM is the belief that his true essence stands by itself. As an analogy, In the computer world, each thread has its own memory stack, its own code to execute. If the thread is I AM. Then who is the main program that executes the thread. Who is the programmer that writes the program.