If the UK were all of the sudden leaders of not only the UK, but the United States...

No wars, no bloodshed, all Americans decided they were better off under the monarch.

What would the world look like?

Would the British Americans possess Mexico?

Would the Queen visit us more often?

Would aristocracy prevailed?

Would the germans still ate british lunch during ww2...

a reply to: EternalSolace

No offense, but your leaders can't even run the UK.

Although it would be a good thought... American citizens have grown rather weak overall the last 100 years or so. A good War of Independence would help strengthen the gene pool as well as shed some of our stupider ideologies.

Let's give it a whirl!

a reply to: EternalSolace

What would the world look like?

If America had stayed British, it would now be much like Canada, Australia, New Zealand etc, An independent country but with Queen Liz as Head Of State.

Would the British Americans possess Mexico?

I think we colonised the parts of Central America that we wanted to. So i would say no to that question.

Would the Queen visit us more often?

The Queen is now age 93. Her long distance travel days are over.

Would aristocracy prevailed?

I refer to my first answer.

Would the germans still ate british lunch during ww2

Not sue what you mean by that.

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: EternalSolace

Would the germans still ate british lunch during ww2

Not sue what you mean by that.

Do you really not?

I doubt there would be much difference, the same people who run the UK have ran the US since the beginning. The US breaking free was just a dispute of the aristocracy that had settled in the US, and the British crown.

1772 - First slave freed in England under English common law.
1772 - British aristocracy/landowners wanted to expand Westward, but could not because of the treaties the British crown had signed with the Native Indians.

1776 - We know what happened.

What followed
*Hundred years of massive expansion
*Hundred more years of slavery in the USA

Freemasons have had a lot of say on the political landscape of both the UK and USA. They are now practically sharing "National Security"

originally posted by: EternalSolace
Do you really not?

The British held off the Germans during the Battle of Britain making Hitler's planned invasion of the island no longer possible. An argument could be made that they may have prevailed over them without the United States entering the European theater.

Meh....you guys were still on rations until the 60's cuz you blew your money trying to hold the empire together.. you had your turn...now its our turn to screw things up.

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: EternalSolace

Would the germans still ate british lunch during ww2

Not sue what you mean by that.

Do you really not?

Are you drunk already?

No seriously because some of your sentences really arent making sense, says youre from Kentucky but your typing like english is your second language.

a reply to: EternalSolace

" If the UK were all of the sudden leaders of not only the UK, but the United States..."


They would All Probably be Shot , and No , I am Not Kidding ......

a reply to: EternalSolace
It isn't even clear what kind of speculation you want us to consider.
"All of a sudden" in the title implies that the change would happen now- America would suddenly decide to return to British allegiance. George Bernard Shaw put forward that idea in his play "The Apple Cart", and concluded that it would amount to what we now call "reverse take-over". Britain would become (even more) part of America, not the other way round.

But the opening post seems to be talking about the Americans never having broken away.
In that case, to answer your questions;
No, the British version of America would not include Mexico, and would probably not even include California. The Victorian British empire did not pick fights with white people outside Europe.
Yes, you would be on the regular rota for royal visits.
Aristocracy did not prevail even in Britain. In any case, your social model would probably have been Canada.
And you would not be asking that last question, because it doesn't make any sense to people using the English language. Even correcting "ate" to "have eaten" doesn't help much.

a reply to: EternalSolace

God what a mess.
We Brits are still trying to disentangle ourselves from one supranational union, we don't want another.

Unless we get to pick the best laws from each bit.
Us weed and gun laws, UK drinking age etc.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
The British held off the Germans during the Battle of Britain making Hitler's planned invasion of the island no longer possible. An argument could be made that they may have prevailed over them without the United States entering the European theater.

Churchill told his son, soon after becoming Prime Minister, that he hoped to win the war by "dragging in the United States".
One possible difference is that America, as a Commonwealth country, would have declared war in 1939 (and 1914), and its material resources would have been brought to bear on the situation that much earlier.

I think all British people should push to be the next state of the US. I want a gun to be able to defend myself and my family when the ethnic cleansing starts. Notice I said defend not be on the offensive cos we'll be the downtrodden minority.

Oh, and you yanks would be writing the letter u a lot more often than you are currently used to.

a reply to: crayzeed

Nothing Wrong with wanting to Protect Yourself and your Family from Bodily Harm no matter where you happen to Dwell on Planet Earth . We CAME Here from Birth to Experience a Physical Life , I doubt Very Much Any Man or Men have the Moral Righteousness to Prevent our Own Personal Manifest Destiny to Survive and Multiply ......

a reply to: EternalSolace

I wonder what sort of responses you were expecting on an American site?

The first response should be unmistakably clear that it would have been a good thing for the world.

The crown didn't send its best to colonize.

The native Americans would not have been subject to genocide. The British had a policy of negotiating and preserving territorial boundaries.

Additionally, the racial problems in the US would not have been allowed to happen as slavery was abolished across the British Empire much earlier.

a reply to: crayzeed

If you really wanted to own a gun, you could move the the USA. If you dont really need a gun you can remain in the UK as you seem to have chosen, the choice is yours after all, is it a want or need?

originally posted by: paraphi
The native Americans would not have been subject to genocide. The British had a policy of negotiating and preserving territorial boundaries.

Additionally, the racial problems in the US would not have been allowed to happen as slavery was abolished across the British Empire much earlier.

The British have done an outstanding job, there empire is now tiny, there people are taxed to death, afraid to go outside after dark. Can’t even buy a good knife. Can’t git out of the EU with out running in circles yelling,”What do I do, what do I do”. I don’t think you guys can handle the US.
A Londoner would last 10 minutes in a Detroit subway.

a reply to: Nickn3

A Londoner would last 10 minutes in a Detroit subway.

Ha ha....I managed perfectly ok on the New York subway....but then again, I'm not a Londoner.

Typical responses from the usual suspects.

And I really don't know what the purpose of this ridiculous thread is other than to provoke and antagonise each other.