Unmasking Revelations About To Break On Former UN Ambassador Samantha Power

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: cognizant420
a reply to: Lagomorphe

Go back to your 3rd world.country if you do t like it here, and take some Democrats with you before the finish turning us into a 3rd world country

And people wonder why we have the reputation that we do^^^^^^^^^^^

I will just let him/her have his/her intellectual erection after all the thought and effort he/she put into his/her/its post 😉

a reply to: Lagomorphe

Well, ironically I don't think they know you're in France but British... Either way, you're welcome to have whatever opinion of the states as you wish, and welcome here any time.

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Let's say I am McCabe and hate trump and want to do something. So he looks through all the data they have on possible Russian agents or ties to agents, criminals etc..I pull up dozens of interactions from counterintelligence and spying on foreign officials...I then make up a convincing pattern of people talking to Russians a possible concern..etc. its going to be very hard to say he didn't actually have a concern but was just letting his bias effect his work.

I agree. My question is why is the UN ambassador part of this? Wrongdoing, and proving wrongdoing, are two completely different things, no question.

originally posted by: luthier
Oddly enough not a single person in Congress or the president has been calling to review surveillance laws or the process of obtaining permission to spy.....

So... what, exactly, do you think they are doing now, if not 'reviewing surveillance laws or the process of obtaining permission to spy??

a reply to: luthier

Probably very little. More a back rub let's get some lunch kind of guy.

LOL -- I agreed when I saw your comment earlier... now I'm not so sure:

Joe Biden Reportedly Involved in Controversial Early Stages of 2016 Russia Probe

Former Vice President Joe Biden was reportedly one of the few Obama administration officials who participated in secretive meetings during the early stages of the Obama-era intelligence community’s initial operations regarding suspected Russian interference in the 2016 presidential campaign.

That tidbit was contained deep inside a 7,700-plus word Washington Post article published June 23, 2017 in which the newspaper also detailed the highly compartmentalized nature of the original Russia interference investigation and the manner in which other U.S. intelligence agencies were deliberately kept in the dark.

A quote from the WaPo article:

They worked exclusively for two groups of “customers,” officials said. The first was Obama and fewer than 14 senior officials in government. The second was a team of operations specialists at the CIA, NSA and FBI who took direction from the task force on where to aim their subsequent efforts to collect more intelligence on Russia.

So maybe Biden was more informed/involved than I've given him credit for!

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: luthier

Probably very little. More a back rub let's get some lunch kind of guy.

LOL -- I agreed when I saw your comment earlier... now I'm not so sure:

Joe Biden Reportedly Involved in Controversial Early Stages of 2016 Russia Probe

Former Vice President Joe Biden was reportedly one of the few Obama administration officials who participated in secretive meetings during the early stages of the Obama-era intelligence community’s initial operations regarding suspected Russian interference in the 2016 presidential campaign.

That tidbit was contained deep inside a 7,700-plus word Washington Post article published June 23, 2017 in which the newspaper also detailed the highly compartmentalized nature of the original Russia interference investigation and the manner in which other U.S. intelligence agencies were deliberately kept in the dark.

A quote from the WaPo article:

They worked exclusively for two groups of “customers,” officials said. The first was Obama and fewer than 14 senior officials in government. The second was a team of operations specialists at the CIA, NSA and FBI who took direction from the task force on where to aim their subsequent efforts to collect more intelligence on Russia.

So maybe Biden was more informed/involved than I've given him credit for!

Of course, Biden is up to his neck in Spygate.

Why do you think he's running for Prez?...Certainly NOT because he really wants it.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: luthier
Oddly enough not a single person in Congress or the president has been calling to review surveillance laws or the process of obtaining permission to spy.....

So... what, exactly, do you think they are doing now, if not 'reviewing surveillance laws or the process of obtaining permission to spy??

They are making a political show and going after the people who spied.


As I said actually proving a crime is near impossible because of the laws. If they were serious they would review fisa laws not the people who used the power they were given. FiSA abuse has been in the news since the early 2000"s.

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: luthier

Probably very little. More a back rub let's get some lunch kind of guy.

LOL -- I agreed when I saw your comment earlier... now I'm not so sure:

Joe Biden Reportedly Involved in Controversial Early Stages of 2016 Russia Probe

Former Vice President Joe Biden was reportedly one of the few Obama administration officials who participated in secretive meetings during the early stages of the Obama-era intelligence community’s initial operations regarding suspected Russian interference in the 2016 presidential campaign.

That tidbit was contained deep inside a 7,700-plus word Washington Post article published June 23, 2017 in which the newspaper also detailed the highly compartmentalized nature of the original Russia interference investigation and the manner in which other U.S. intelligence agencies were deliberately kept in the dark.

A quote from the WaPo article:

They worked exclusively for two groups of “customers,” officials said. The first was Obama and fewer than 14 senior officials in government. The second was a team of operations specialists at the CIA, NSA and FBI who took direction from the task force on where to aim their subsequent efforts to collect more intelligence on Russia.

So maybe Biden was more informed/involved than I've given him credit for!

Not much to go on even within the article. The article is lacking much but vague references to an article making vague references.


It isn't impossible but joe is more a funny hat you take out for special events.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Because all the spies trade info. Who knows though with the media as terrible as it is what is true or how corrupt politicians are.

a reply to: luthier

While you are correct, I do not think that would make for a good legal defense.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

I guess we will see. It has to be illegal first. We have so many immoral unconstitutional surveillance laws I seriously doubt they will have to have much of a defense.

I haven't seen anything new yet. Most people here forgot b Clinton, bush and obama abused federal power regularly. The difference is 24 hour news gets more and more ridiculous and divisive. I remember a long time ago when CNN wasn't as bad.

originally posted by: luthier
They are making a political show and going after the people who spied.

As I said actually proving a crime is near impossible because of the laws. If they were serious they would review fisa laws not the people who used the power they were given. FiSA abuse has been in the news since the early 2000"s.

No... they are going after those who violated the law by lying to the FISA court to get the warrants.

Also, a ton of un maskings, in violation of the laws governing access to this data.

I hate the existence and nature of the FISA court as much as anyone, but the reality is, there are very strict laws governing who gets access, how, and when. Violate these laws, and go to prison. This is what happened, and this will now be proven.

You should be glad.

a reply to: luthier

As always I will wait and see what the facts say when they are revealed. There are strict rules about sharing of information about US citizens, we will see if those t's were crossed.

a reply to: tanstaafl

No. Fisa laws have been abused hundreds of times.

75 times during bill Clinton for instance they found the FBI aids misled fisa courts.

Bush administration was in court all the time over spying.

Nobody will get jail time unless a huge mistake was made.

The usual is you can't apply for fisa warrants ta anymore and you can be sued for violating an individual's 4th amendment rights, which has happened during clinton and bush.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Not that strict. They have been abused and caught many many times with very little recourse.

www.nytimes.com...

a reply to: luthier

Correct, which is why President Trump, gave AG Barr the power to unclassify anything he needs to find out how this started.

this is the cork in the swamp being pulled.

a reply to: thedigirati

I don't think so he wants a distraction because what is allowed by the government is shocking and he can use it as a distraction.

He himself signed a fisa expansion bill that will allow more Americans to get socked up in foreign surveillance..

What is said on the news and for propaganda isn't the same as the actual votes.

a reply to: IAMTAT

Of course, Biden is up to his neck in Spygate. Why do you think he's running for Prez?...Certainly NOT because he really wants it.

Sure, I knew he's a good little tool... at least as far back as the Iran-Contra hearings!

I just didn't think anyone would trust him with that kind of info... So just shows what I know. That's okay. Keeps me humble. Kinda sorta.

a reply to: Boadicea

administration has declared an emergency to bypass Congress and expedite billions of dollars in arms sales to various countries -- including Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates

While everyone worries about Mueller.....and who 8s more crazy this slips in.

a reply to: luthier

It isn't impossible but joe is more a funny hat you take out for special events.

Or maybe plausible deniability. One more fall guy. Biden is effectively the last layer between Obama and the intel heads. Last chance to keep Obama's name out of it maybe.