YouTube Just Demonetized Secureteam10 For Misleading BS

a reply to: Jay-morris

As you ignored most of my answers

The only part of your posts I ignore (as in don't reply too) are the parts you try and make this thread about you.

Why you need to react and what you cannot stand, etc etc.

There is no need to reply to that, it has nothing to do with the topic of the thread.

You say they changed their mind because they make too much money. That simply does not make any sense!

NO I said they would not make as much money,

I take it that is why you wont quote, just try and misrepresent whats said, Now I get why you defend his channel

having 2 million viewers protest by not watching other YouTube stuff hurts YouTube more so than if they keep watching and clicking on videos.

They said they done it because his titles were misleading, yet they changed it the next day, and mentioned nothing about changing his titles. Actually, they sent him no message, so obviously a mistake.

Which in my opinion and I know others opinions are extremely personal and annoying to you seeing as how you react but sorry I will post it anyway,

Many say his titles are misleading,

You can disagree, I don't care, not sure why its so important to you to keep pointing out they are not misleading.

That is just your opinion, you are free to it but how you repeatedly need point it out and in the way you do to those that have a differing opinion is telling.

he has many subscribers

he goes on social media crying about not making money so the crowd that support him have enough numbers to actually do something that in the long run would hurt YouTube financially.

Many are and have suggested to create a new platform.

If millions stop using YouTube and go to another platform to feed their interests it hurts You tubes pockets.

Its all about money.

Both YouTube and channels that make money from views and subscriptions.

Its why this has happened the way its happened.

originally posted by: Box of Rain

originally posted by: Jay-morris
a reply to: Box of Rain

No SecureTeam videos were banned. They were all still right there on YouTube, available for anyone to watch. What they did was prevent SecureTeam from profiting because YouTube felt that SecureTeam was misleading the people who clicked through on their videos. 

If that was the case, then why did youtube change their mind the next day? Obviously it was a mistake. If they done it because he was being misleading (which he has not) then they would not have changed their mind obviously.

Maybe SecureTeam promised Youtube that they would be less misleading in the future. Perhaps YouTube is treating this like a stern warning or probation or something.

The demonetizing might have been done to get SecureTeam's attention so they knew that Youtube was serious about it.

You would get a warning first. I think it's three strikes if I remember, hence the reason why it was just a mistake. It happens. They would not do that, and that change it again in less than 24 hours.

Like I said before. More than 90% of video titles on YouTube use that same format. Not once have I seen a video of his and the title has been completly different to what in the video. Yes, he bigs it up a bit, but most videos do, and this is absolutly fine.

It was an obvious mistake/error

a reply to: InhaleExhale

The only part of your posts I ignore (as in don't reply too) are the parts you try and make this thread about you. 

Why you need to react and what you cannot stand, etc etc. 

There is no need to reply to that, it has nothing to do with the topic of the thread. 

You said something like why am I bothered if I really did not like or care about the channel. I never said no such thing, so it's important to me that I make sure you know that and actually read what I said.

NO I said they would not make as much money, 

I take it that is why you wont quote, just try and misrepresent whats said, Now I get why you defend his channel

 

having 2 million viewers protest by not watching other YouTube stuff hurts YouTube more so than if they keep watching and clicking on videos. 

Oh come on! You know what I meant, so don't be silly!

Which in my opinion and I know others opinions are extremely personal and annoying to you seeing as how you react but sorry I will post it anyway,

Many say his titles are misleading, 

You can disagree, I don't care, not sure why its so important to you to keep pointing out they are not misleading. 

That is just your opinion, you are free to it but how you repeatedly need point it out and in the way you do to those that have a differing opinion is telling. 

he has many subscribers 

The only people saying his titles are misleading are the ones who do mot like the channel. The same people thst say his channel is a hoax channel, which it clearly is not.

And having my own youtube channel, I know what is misleading and what is not. He is just doing what thousands of other channels are doing. While his titles are bugged up, that is absolutly normal on YouTube. But not once have I seen a title where the video has been completly different.

Please find one if you disagree.

he goes on social media crying about not making money so the crowd that support him have enough numbers to actually do something that in the long run would hurt YouTube financially. 

The people who done that are fans of his channel. What the hell is wrong with that? Absolutly nothing! Maybe he does not want to use another platform. Maybe he limes what youtube others.

Also, if it was not an error, where was the three strikes? You will always get warnings. Another reason why this was a mistake.

a reply to: Jay-morris

so it's important to me that I make sure you know that and actually read what I said.

Yes

you said you only watch videos you think are interesting and not ones that are videos sent into him.

You can be interpreted as saying you don't have much invested in terms of interest in his channel other than certain videos like the interviews and what not.

You said something like

You make a point about reading whats said and not saying certain things now you do the same, I said something like....?

well this is exactly what I did when I said you don't care.

You only care for the videos you want to, that is how I interpreted what you said.

Oh come on! You know what I meant, so don't be silly!

If you say so, then did you purposely lie about me saying You tube changing their mind because they make more money and that doesn't make sense to you when its not what I said?

The only people saying his titles are misleading are the ones who do mot like the channel.

I like his channel.

Yes the videos you watch with interviews are hard to be misleading in the title, the videos you don't watch, UFO videos sent in where he titles them are misleading and as I said a few minutes of googling for some of them would explain whats in the video but they are titled UFO to get clicks.

The same people thst say his channel is a hoax channel, which it clearly is not.

You are replying to and implying I don't like his channel

so can please quote me saying its a hoax channel?

Otherwise its not me who should stop being silly.

And having my own youtube channel, I know what is misleading and what is not.

Now this to use your emotional response is absolutely nonsense.

Who cares if you own a YouTube channel, that has nothing to do with knowing if a title is misleading or not.

Seriously, this is just becoming insane.

But not once have I seen a title where the video has been completly different.

No one is talking about being completely different,

misleading is posting videos of bugs or planes or satellites and claiming UFO which to many points to more so something alien rather than something mundane and what a few minutes of internet searching could answer.

The more you post the more dishonest you are becoming.

Misleading is not completely different and I never said the videos titles are completely different.

What the hell is wrong with that? Absolutly nothing!

Yes,

I never said there was something wrong with it,

I was explaining a point of view from you tubes side as to why they reverted back.

I really need to quote this again

I know what is misleading and what is not.

Yes you certainly do.

a reply to: InhaleExhale

Yes 

you said you only watch videos you think are interesting and not ones that are videos sent into him. 

You can be interpreted as saying you don't have much invested in terms of interest in his channel other than certain videos like the interviews and what not. 

He has a lot of videos that are not just footage people have sent in. He has videos where he will talk about something interesting, and maybe share one or two videos that were sent to him before the end of the video. Mostly I do not watch these and skip. Why? Because they do not really interest me, considering anything can be faked these days. Unless it's decent footage with multiple witnesess which he does have also.

You make a point about reading whats said and not saying certain things now you do the same, I said something like....? 

well this is exactly what I did when I said you don't care. 

You only care for the videos you want to, that is how I interpreted what you said. 

How does me saying I do not really care about the sent to him videos mean I do not like the channel. Considering his has hundreds of videos where it's about other ufo stuff.

If you say so, then did you purposely lie about me saying You tube changing their mind because they make more money and that doesn't make sense to you when its not what I said? 

Is it really not obvious to you that I just worded it wrong? You really think I think youtube would go under or lose huge amounts of money because of what they did to secure team? Come on!

I like his channel. 

Yes the videos you watch with interviews are hard to be misleading in the title, the videos you don't watch, UFO videos sent in where he titles them are misleading and as I said a few minutes of googling for some of them would explain whats in the video but they are titled UFO to get clicks.

No, because a lot of his videos have a mix of ufo footage sent to him, plus ufo news and stories.

You are replying to and implying I don't like his channel 

so can please quote me saying its a hoax channel? 

Otherwise its not me who should stop being silly.

Please post where I said you said it was a hoax channel?

I said

The only people saying his titles are misleading are the ones who do not like the channel. The same people that say his channel is a hoax channel, which it clearly is not. 

So I never said you said it was a hoax channel. And I say that because I have not come across one person who did not like the channel, that said it was not a hoax channel. I never said you said it was a hoax channel.

Now this to use your emotional response is absolutely nonsense. 

Who cares if you own a YouTube channel, that has nothing to do with knowing if a title is misleading or not. 

Seriously, this is just becoming insane. 

Of course it matters. When starting my channel, I had to do a lot of research. Look at other channels. Secure team is doing pretty much what most channels are doing. Absolutly nothing new. In fact, there are thousands of misleading videos that have titles that have nothing to do with the video, and thumbnails that have nothing to do with the video.
Secure team does not do that.

No one is talking about being completely different, 

misleading is posting videos of bugs or planes or satellites and claiming UFO which to many points to more so something alien rather than something mundane and what a few minutes of internet searching could answer. 

The more you post the more dishonest you are becoming. 

Misleading is not completely different and I never said the videos titles are completely different. 

I have never seen him mistake a satalight or a bug for a 100% ufo. Can you post a video where he has?

Yes, 

I never said there was something wrong with it, 

I was explaining a point of view from you tubes side as to why they reverted back. 

I really need to quote this again 

So, he got no warnings. No strikes. It was changed for less than 24 hours before they changed it again. With no strikes, no warnings. It was obvious it was a mistake and nothing to do with his fans.


So I will ask again. Post a video where he misleads?

Why did he get no warnings, no strikes?

And please post a video where he mistakes a bug or satalight for a ufo?

originally posted by: Jay-morris


So I will ask again. Post a video where he misleads?

Why did he get no warnings, no strikes?

And please post a video where he mistakes a bug or satalight for a ufo?

Also

www.abovetopsecret.com...



If ats dissaproves of him you can take it to the bank that he is a snake oil salesman.

originally posted by: IMSAM

originally posted by: Jay-morris


So I will ask again. Post a video where he misleads?

Why did he get no warnings, no strikes?

And please post a video where he mistakes a bug or satalight for a ufo?

Also

www.abovetopsecret.com...



If ats dissaproves of him you can take it to the bank that he is a snake oil salesman.

Seriously!?

The person in the video is clueless! Firstly when he mentions secure team, he says they, when if he actually done done some research, he would know there is not a "they" but one single person.

The poster of that video is trying to make out thst secure team hoax their videos, which Gain is completly wrong! The videos posted on secure team are either sent to him, or he uses official footage, example, famous or official ufo footage and pictures.


If ats disproves you can take it to the bank lolololol ATS classes the channel as a hoax channel. It clearly is not a hoax channel, as I have explained. If this is the case that the whole ufo forum would be in the hoax bin!

Snake oil salesman? What is he selling? Do you have to pay to watch his videos?

Msybe you should look up what the word means before you throw it around!

a reply to: shawmanfromny

i dont care who knows it.

I LOOOOVEE SC10 and have some merch

tyler makes his cash on merch and other funding sites but this would be a blow to his income

i enjoy everything UFO and from time to time he has the rare real deal

i think he knows he has fakes and might even post them from time to time but i think he is a believer

a reply to: Jay-morris

He has a lot of videos that are not just footage people have sent in.

Yes, I know.

That is what we have been talking about for the last few posts.

How does me saying I do not really care about the sent to him videos mean I do not like the channel.

I don't know, Did I say that? NO

You are the one saying others don't like his channel.


My reason for posting in this thread is to point out there was no censorship, nothing more.

I replied to you initially because you were talking about other sites banning and censoring things.

None of that has happened with this channel.

Is it really not obvious to you that I just worded it wrong?

Absolutely no,

you can read your own post before you hit reply and read it after and edit it if you said or worded something wrong.

Please post where I said you said it was a hoax channel?

FFS, I already explained this

you were replying to me

the way you replied to ME implied that I don't like his channel because I was one of those saying certain titles are misleading in my opinion.

You said those that don't like his channel are the same ones saying its a hoax channel in a reply to me.

Sorry if I misinterpreted your words directed at me.

But its not a misinterpretation


this is what you said

The only people saying his titles are misleading are the ones who do not like the channel. The same people that say his channel is a hoax channel, which it clearly is not.

So how else am I suppose to interpret this when I give my opinion that certain titles are misleading.

Am I not the same person as myself, one saying there are misleading titles?

So, you are saying that I am saying (because of what I said about misleading titles) that his channel is a hoax channel.

Its not hard to follow, you posted it.

So I never said you said it was a hoax channel. And I say that because I have not come across one person who did not like the channel, that said it was not a hoax channel. I never said you said it was a hoax channel.

The way you said it implied I did because I am the same person that is saying titles are misleading.

Stop playing word games.

You quoted yourself, I just quoted it again above.

I guess you can reply again with you worded it wrong again.

Of course it matters. When starting my channel, I had to do a lot of research.

So then the questions you ask about why YouTube did or that are questions you should know the answer too.

I would speculate that others channels maybe haven't be reported as being misleading while Secureteam has, so YouTube acted on the complaints/reports received.

In fact, there are thousands of misleading videos that have titles that have nothing to do with the video, and thumbnails that have nothing to do with the video.

Yes and?

Its quite well known how idiotic YouTube is and how many will mislead to get clicks, its not just YouTube but the internet as a whole, both mainstream and alternative media.

have all those channels been reported to YouTube like maybe SecureTeam was?


I say that because that would be why YouTube took initial action due to a number of reports received.

So I will ask again. Post a video where he misleads?

NO

Like I have been saying how one interprets a titles as being misleading wont be to another because they believe whats in the video is a UFO while others will discern its something mundane.

If you want to argue some of the videos from his site there are many other threads to do so.

originally posted by: Jay-morris
a reply to: uncommitted

Are you gullible? I've read many of your posts, I have a feeling you want to believe what suits your bias, so make of that what you will.....

Really? So you have read my posts? What is my beliefs then when it comes to ufos?

How could I possibly judge? If you believe there are artificial structures on Mars that is totally your own right.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: Jay-morris
a reply to: uncommitted

Are you gullible? I've read many of your posts, I have a feeling you want to believe what suits your bias, so make of that what you will.....

Really? So you have read my posts? What is my beliefs then when it comes to ufos?

How could I possibly judge? If you believe there are artificial structures on Mars that is totally your own right.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Please post a quote where I said it was an alien structure? I bet you did not even read all my posts from that thread!

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: Jay-morris
a reply to: uncommitted

Are you gullible? I've read many of your posts, I have a feeling you want to believe what suits your bias, so make of that what you will.....

Really? So you have read my posts? What is my beliefs then when it comes to ufos?

How could I possibly judge? If you believe there are artificial structures on Mars that is totally your own right.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Please post a quote where I said it was an alien structure? I bet you did not even read all my posts from that thread!

I know people say you see what you want to see with this stuff, but the structure in this footage, to me, is a structure.

We see this long structure that looks a but like a seaside pier, that leads into a dome like thing .

Where did I say 'alien' structure?

After reading the first post I didn't bother reading the rest, why would I want to wade through BS in the skunk works area?

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: Jay-morris
a reply to: uncommitted

Are you gullible? I've read many of your posts, I have a feeling you want to believe what suits your bias, so make of that what you will.....

Really? So you have read my posts? What is my beliefs then when it comes to ufos?

How could I possibly judge? If you believe there are artificial structures on Mars that is totally your own right.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Please post a quote where I said it was an alien structure? I bet you did not even read all my posts from that thread!

I know people say you see what you want to see with this stuff, but the structure in this footage, to me, is a structure.

We see this long structure that looks a but like a seaside pier, that leads into a dome like thing .

Where did I say 'alien' structure?

After reading the first post I didn't bother reading the rest, why would I want to wade through BS in the skunk works area?

So, let me get this straight. Because I was intruiged by a photo, that means I believe it is an artificial structure, all because I was questioning it?

If you bothered to read the whole thread, you would know I never said that, and in fact make it clear that images can look very different at low res.

So, you spent day or so going through my history, and that's the best you can do lololol

I eill always question stuff, and so should everyone. That does not mean you believe this or that!

If you actually read all of my posts, you eould have thought twice about making yourself look silly!

a reply to: CthulhuMythos

Censorship would be deleting all Secureteam 10 videos. Demonetizing them simply means not continuing to pay for trash on their platform. However, it appears the demonetization itself was a hoax intended to get some attention, and it worked.

a reply to: Jay-morris

So, you spent day or so going through my history, and that's the best you can do lololol

Don't you think that would be a bit weird, I idly picked the first link my cursor hovered over.

About time to much BS on YouTube., they have been going after the other clowns you know
flat earthers.

Even when thourghly debunked any excuse is used later to repost them.

originally posted by: uncommitted
a reply to: Jay-morris

So, you spent day or so going through my history, and that's the best you can do lololol

Don't you think that would be a bit weird, I idly picked the first link my cursor hovered over.

Why are you lying? You picked a post I made in 2015! So you would of have to have looked through my post history! Keep on digging that hole!

a reply to: wmd_2008

Hey - leave Youtube FE videos alone. I need the laughs.

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: uncommitted
a reply to: Jay-morris

So, you spent day or so going through my history, and that's the best you can do lololol

Don't you think that would be a bit weird, I idly picked the first link my cursor hovered over.

Why are you lying? You picked a post I made in 2015! So you would of have to have looked through my post history! Keep on digging that hole!

If you click on your profile - or when I did - it was the third or fourth link down. You have serious ego issues as can be seen by other peoples responses in this thread, bit weird.

originally posted by: uncommitted

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: uncommitted
a reply to: Jay-morris

So, you spent day or so going through my history, and that's the best you can do lololol

Don't you think that would be a bit weird, I idly picked the first link my cursor hovered over.

Why are you lying? You picked a post I made in 2015! So you would of have to have looked through my post history! Keep on digging that hole!

If you click on your profile - or when I did - it was the third or fourth link down. You have serious ego issues as can be seen by other peoples responses in this thread, bit weird.

So, you clicked my profile, and it randomly came up with a post a made in 2015. You did not even read the thread, and posted that as evidence that I am gullible lololol.

Truth is, you most prob spent a bit of time looking through my posts to try and find the evidence you need! And you say I have a serious ego lololololol