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originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: putnam6
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: putnam6
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: putnam6
originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: putnam6
The check?
Last I looked the CIA playbook has been to use cash and weapons for their crony politicians to rise to power and bring in friendly co-operation for US industry.
Are you really trying to spin that the US stands in the corner square of other countries giving cash aid to its ordinary citizens?
Give me a break.
LOL give me a break got any idea how foreign aid works, the damn CIA doesn't have its nose in every country either LOL paranoid much. Besides if the CIA is there likely other foreign entities are already there too. Sorta like you guys are going to be so worried about America that China is going to buy your ass out from under you, and then what happens, your peace-loving leaders will come crying to Washington DC.
They do spend billions that go to the duly and legally recognized governments of those countries. Once it gets on the ground what are they supposed to do? they count on all those peace-loving leaders to distribute it as needed. Like in Somalia, that was one of the basic points. Aid wasn't getting to the people that needed it, yet when the US tries to get it where it needs to go they get attacked locally. How do propose they get those funds directly to the people, bypassing their governments? LOL mail them individual supplies and monies. That's the point the rest of the world is mostly crooked in its own right, especially when it can tap into billions in supplies and monies. So again how do the insure monies get to those in need?
We don't live in a perfect world....
I did hear about it, actually, but I'm not an American and my media isn't as 'filtered' as yours.
Piracy made a strong comeback in Somalia in 2017
Classic hand wringing over reactionary BS in this instance
Washington (CNN)The US is sending "dozens" of additional troops to Somalia to train and equip the Somali National Army and the forces participating in the African Union Mission in Somalia there.
A US military official told CNN that the new contingent would consist of about 40 soldiers.
In an email to CNN, Charles Chuck Prichard, a spokesperson for US Africa Command, confirmed the deployment Friday, saying that the deployment of "a few dozen troops from the 101st Airborne Division" came "at the request and in close coordination with" the government of Somalia.
"The objective of this particular train and equip mission is to improve the logistical capacity of the Somali National Army and the focus will be on teaching basic logistics operations, which will allow Somalia forces to better fight al Shabaab," the spokesman added.
The US troops will join the small number of US special operations forces already there providing counterterrorism support to local forces battling the local al Qaeda affiliate, al Shabaab. That advisory mission has been underway for several years.
The US military official added that there are approximately 50 counterterrorism advisers already in Somalia as part of the ongoing mission.
The deployment was first reported by Voice of America.
President Donald Trump last month granted additional authority to US Africa Command to conduct counterterrorism airstrikes against the terror group..
But Africa Command made it clear that there was no link between the two.
"It should be noted that this training was planned long before President Trump issued updated authorities related to Somalia," the spokesperson added.
The president of Somalia, Mohamed Abdullahi Mohamed Farmaajo (center), receives a guard of honor during a ceremony to mark the 57th Anniversary of the Somali National Army held at the Ministry of Defense in Mogadishu on Wednesday, April 12, 2017.
The president of Somalia, Mohamed Abdullahi Mohamed Farmaajo (center), receives a guard of honor during a ceremony to mark the 57th Anniversary of the Somali National Army held at the Ministry of Defense in Mogadishu on Wednesday, April 12, 2017.
The new training effort comes as US military leaders see new opportunities to work with Somalia's newly elected president, Mohamed Abdullahi Farmajo, a dual US-Somali citizen who has embarked on a series of aggressive military reforms amid an ongoing al Shabaab bombing campaign that has repeatedly struck the capital, Mogadishu.
"With the new government there, President Farmajo, we have an opportunity here to move forward," Gen. Thomas Waldhauser, the commander of Africa Command told reporters at the Pentagon last month.
"We have a great opportunity to work with him, and we look forward to continuing our counterterrorism part," Waldhauser added.
So, the US spends $110.28 million on 40 soldiers?
Or is it just a big arms deal that's actually going on?
Its 2019 in my world lol, and if you dont think American media would be all over an increase to blame on Trump I don't know what to tell you. LOL not a fan of him but he gets blamed for everything LOL.
IMB: Gulf of Guinea Led the World for Piracy in 2018
Live IMB Piracy & Armed Robbery Map 2019 - International Maritime Bureau
So, 2017 (my previous post on this), 2018 & 2019. Did I leave anything out?
And you forget that the biggest reduction in number of attacks happened between 2011 and 2015. That was under Obama, wasn't it? The resurgence of piracy was what was under Trump.
From your article see below, I was referring to Somalia where the US military is, and the region we were discussing. See if you can catch up Sunshine lol.
n other regional developments, acts of piracy declined or remained at relatively low levels off the shores of other historic hot spots like Somalia, Indonesia, Malaysia and the Philippines. Somali pirates fired upon three merchant vessels last year, but they conducted no successful boardings.
originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: chr0naut
Hitler wouldn't had went after Russia if the Americans did not join in to pressure his timeline.
originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: TheGreatWork
Georgia guide stone believer huh?
originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: Gothmog
WMDs - Nigerian yellowcake - Colin Powell at the UN?
I can name more
www.theguardian.com...
originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: chr0naut
Hitler wouldn't had went after Russia if the Americans did not join in to pressure his timeline.
originally posted by: putnam6
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: putnam6
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: putnam6
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: putnam6
originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: putnam6
The check?
Last I looked the CIA playbook has been to use cash and weapons for their crony politicians to rise to power and bring in friendly co-operation for US industry.
Are you really trying to spin that the US stands in the corner square of other countries giving cash aid to its ordinary citizens?
Give me a break.
LOL give me a break got any idea how foreign aid works, the damn CIA doesn't have its nose in every country either LOL paranoid much. Besides if the CIA is there likely other foreign entities are already there too. Sorta like you guys are going to be so worried about America that China is going to buy your ass out from under you, and then what happens, your peace-loving leaders will come crying to Washington DC.
They do spend billions that go to the duly and legally recognized governments of those countries. Once it gets on the ground what are they supposed to do? they count on all those peace-loving leaders to distribute it as needed. Like in Somalia, that was one of the basic points. Aid wasn't getting to the people that needed it, yet when the US tries to get it where it needs to go they get attacked locally. How do propose they get those funds directly to the people, bypassing their governments? LOL mail them individual supplies and monies. That's the point the rest of the world is mostly crooked in its own right, especially when it can tap into billions in supplies and monies. So again how do the insure monies get to those in need?
We don't live in a perfect world....
I did hear about it, actually, but I'm not an American and my media isn't as 'filtered' as yours.
Piracy made a strong comeback in Somalia in 2017
Classic hand wringing over reactionary BS in this instance
Washington (CNN)The US is sending "dozens" of additional troops to Somalia to train and equip the Somali National Army and the forces participating in the African Union Mission in Somalia there.
A US military official told CNN that the new contingent would consist of about 40 soldiers.
In an email to CNN, Charles Chuck Prichard, a spokesperson for US Africa Command, confirmed the deployment Friday, saying that the deployment of "a few dozen troops from the 101st Airborne Division" came "at the request and in close coordination with" the government of Somalia.
"The objective of this particular train and equip mission is to improve the logistical capacity of the Somali National Army and the focus will be on teaching basic logistics operations, which will allow Somalia forces to better fight al Shabaab," the spokesman added.
The US troops will join the small number of US special operations forces already there providing counterterrorism support to local forces battling the local al Qaeda affiliate, al Shabaab. That advisory mission has been underway for several years.
The US military official added that there are approximately 50 counterterrorism advisers already in Somalia as part of the ongoing mission.
The deployment was first reported by Voice of America.
President Donald Trump last month granted additional authority to US Africa Command to conduct counterterrorism airstrikes against the terror group..
But Africa Command made it clear that there was no link between the two.
"It should be noted that this training was planned long before President Trump issued updated authorities related to Somalia," the spokesperson added.
The president of Somalia, Mohamed Abdullahi Mohamed Farmaajo (center), receives a guard of honor during a ceremony to mark the 57th Anniversary of the Somali National Army held at the Ministry of Defense in Mogadishu on Wednesday, April 12, 2017.
The president of Somalia, Mohamed Abdullahi Mohamed Farmaajo (center), receives a guard of honor during a ceremony to mark the 57th Anniversary of the Somali National Army held at the Ministry of Defense in Mogadishu on Wednesday, April 12, 2017.
The new training effort comes as US military leaders see new opportunities to work with Somalia's newly elected president, Mohamed Abdullahi Farmajo, a dual US-Somali citizen who has embarked on a series of aggressive military reforms amid an ongoing al Shabaab bombing campaign that has repeatedly struck the capital, Mogadishu.
"With the new government there, President Farmajo, we have an opportunity here to move forward," Gen. Thomas Waldhauser, the commander of Africa Command told reporters at the Pentagon last month.
"We have a great opportunity to work with him, and we look forward to continuing our counterterrorism part," Waldhauser added.
So, the US spends $110.28 million on 40 soldiers?
Or is it just a big arms deal that's actually going on?
Its 2019 in my world lol, and if you dont think American media would be all over an increase to blame on Trump I don't know what to tell you. LOL not a fan of him but he gets blamed for everything LOL.
IMB: Gulf of Guinea Led the World for Piracy in 2018
Live IMB Piracy & Armed Robbery Map 2019 - International Maritime Bureau
So, 2017 (my previous post on this), 2018 & 2019. Did I leave anything out?
And you forget that the biggest reduction in number of attacks happened between 2011 and 2015. That was under Obama, wasn't it? The resurgence of piracy was what was under Trump.
From your article see below, I was referring to Somalia where the US military is, and the region we were discussing. See if you can catch up Sunshine lol.
n other regional developments, acts of piracy declined or remained at relatively low levels off the shores of other historic hot spots like Somalia, Indonesia, Malaysia and the Philippines. Somali pirates fired upon three merchant vessels last year, but they conducted no successful boardings.
originally posted by: TheAiIsLying
America arms both sides. The good and the bad guys.
Do you really believe that no other country in this world has military ambitions other than the US? Have you forgotten that Russia annexed first Georgia then Crimea just recently? Have you forgotten that China annexed Tibet is currently claiming that it owns the whole South China Sea and has built a military base there?
Here's something else to ponder. The US manufactures the M16 rifle and all of it's many variants. If you've paid any kind of attention to any of the conflicts around the world you may have noticed that the "Bad Guys" are usually rocking AK47's, or variants of it. Who manufactures those?
I'll pre-empt the argument that the US gives money so they can buy their own weapons, but why hand out money that ends up in the hands of rivals? Why not just give them US weapon systems and keep the money state side?
It's a complex world out there, aint it!
originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: chr0naut
Lend-Lease 🔥
How many worldwide would die if the U.S. withheld all that it does and gives
You have to prove that the big military stick of the US prevents regional historical hostilities from flaring up.
I can on the other hand show many examples of the CIA/US instigating regime change favorable to US economic interests.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: TheAiIsLying
America arms both sides. The good and the bad guys.
Do you really believe that no other country in this world has military ambitions other than the US? Have you forgotten that Russia annexed first Georgia then Crimea just recently? Have you forgotten that China annexed Tibet is currently claiming that it owns the whole South China Sea and has built a military base there?
Here's something else to ponder. The US manufactures the M16 rifle and all of it's many variants. If you've paid any kind of attention to any of the conflicts around the world you may have noticed that the "Bad Guys" are usually rocking AK47's, or variants of it. Who manufactures those?
About half of the estimated 100 million AK47's have been manufactured outside of Russia.
... some of them in Florida.
I'll pre-empt the argument that the US gives money so they can buy their own weapons, but why hand out money that ends up in the hands of rivals? Why not just give them US weapon systems and keep the money state side?
It's a complex world out there, aint it!
Because arms proliferation isn't peace or stability.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: putnam6
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: putnam6
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: putnam6
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: putnam6
originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: putnam6
The check?
Last I looked the CIA playbook has been to use cash and weapons for their crony politicians to rise to power and bring in friendly co-operation for US industry.
Are you really trying to spin that the US stands in the corner square of other countries giving cash aid to its ordinary citizens?
Give me a break.
LOL give me a break got any idea how foreign aid works, the damn CIA doesn't have its nose in every country either LOL paranoid much. Besides if the CIA is there likely other foreign entities are already there too. Sorta like you guys are going to be so worried about America that China is going to buy your ass out from under you, and then what happens, your peace-loving leaders will come crying to Washington DC.
They do spend billions that go to the duly and legally recognized governments of those countries. Once it gets on the ground what are they supposed to do? they count on all those peace-loving leaders to distribute it as needed. Like in Somalia, that was one of the basic points. Aid wasn't getting to the people that needed it, yet when the US tries to get it where it needs to go they get attacked locally. How do propose they get those funds directly to the people, bypassing their governments? LOL mail them individual supplies and monies. That's the point the rest of the world is mostly crooked in its own right, especially when it can tap into billions in supplies and monies. So again how do the insure monies get to those in need?
We don't live in a perfect world....
I did hear about it, actually, but I'm not an American and my media isn't as 'filtered' as yours.
Piracy made a strong comeback in Somalia in 2017
Classic hand wringing over reactionary BS in this instance
Washington (CNN)The US is sending "dozens" of additional troops to Somalia to train and equip the Somali National Army and the forces participating in the African Union Mission in Somalia there.
A US military official told CNN that the new contingent would consist of about 40 soldiers.
In an email to CNN, Charles Chuck Prichard, a spokesperson for US Africa Command, confirmed the deployment Friday, saying that the deployment of "a few dozen troops from the 101st Airborne Division" came "at the request and in close coordination with" the government of Somalia.
"The objective of this particular train and equip mission is to improve the logistical capacity of the Somali National Army and the focus will be on teaching basic logistics operations, which will allow Somalia forces to better fight al Shabaab," the spokesman added.
The US troops will join the small number of US special operations forces already there providing counterterrorism support to local forces battling the local al Qaeda affiliate, al Shabaab. That advisory mission has been underway for several years.
The US military official added that there are approximately 50 counterterrorism advisers already in Somalia as part of the ongoing mission.
The deployment was first reported by Voice of America.
President Donald Trump last month granted additional authority to US Africa Command to conduct counterterrorism airstrikes against the terror group..
But Africa Command made it clear that there was no link between the two.
"It should be noted that this training was planned long before President Trump issued updated authorities related to Somalia," the spokesperson added.
The president of Somalia, Mohamed Abdullahi Mohamed Farmaajo (center), receives a guard of honor during a ceremony to mark the 57th Anniversary of the Somali National Army held at the Ministry of Defense in Mogadishu on Wednesday, April 12, 2017.
The president of Somalia, Mohamed Abdullahi Mohamed Farmaajo (center), receives a guard of honor during a ceremony to mark the 57th Anniversary of the Somali National Army held at the Ministry of Defense in Mogadishu on Wednesday, April 12, 2017.
The new training effort comes as US military leaders see new opportunities to work with Somalia's newly elected president, Mohamed Abdullahi Farmajo, a dual US-Somali citizen who has embarked on a series of aggressive military reforms amid an ongoing al Shabaab bombing campaign that has repeatedly struck the capital, Mogadishu.
"With the new government there, President Farmajo, we have an opportunity here to move forward," Gen. Thomas Waldhauser, the commander of Africa Command told reporters at the Pentagon last month.
"We have a great opportunity to work with him, and we look forward to continuing our counterterrorism part," Waldhauser added.
So, the US spends $110.28 million on 40 soldiers?
Or is it just a big arms deal that's actually going on?
Its 2019 in my world lol, and if you dont think American media would be all over an increase to blame on Trump I don't know what to tell you. LOL not a fan of him but he gets blamed for everything LOL.
IMB: Gulf of Guinea Led the World for Piracy in 2018
Live IMB Piracy & Armed Robbery Map 2019 - International Maritime Bureau
So, 2017 (my previous post on this), 2018 & 2019. Did I leave anything out?
And you forget that the biggest reduction in number of attacks happened between 2011 and 2015. That was under Obama, wasn't it? The resurgence of piracy was what was under Trump.
From your article see below, I was referring to Somalia where the US military is, and the region we were discussing. See if you can catch up Sunshine lol.
n other regional developments, acts of piracy declined or remained at relatively low levels off the shores of other historic hot spots like Somalia, Indonesia, Malaysia and the Philippines. Somali pirates fired upon three merchant vessels last year, but they conducted no successful boardings.
When was the article dated? All I have is your quote from it. No reference details. Perhaps post a link and please note that the period that it speaks to is critical.
originally posted by: madmac5150
a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight
The last official rankings, were as followed:
1. Islamic terrorists
2. Soccer hooligans
3. Batman
4. Canadian maple syrup cartels
5. The United States
When did we move up? I must've missed it...
originally posted by: putnam6
originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: putnam6
LOL ITS YOUR ARTICLE YOU POSTED LAST PARAGRAPH JAN 16TH 2019 THIS YEAR...
www.maritime-executive.com... f-of-guinea-led-the-world-for-piracy-in-2018
I apologize for sounding like an azz its really not why I've been on ATS all these years its about learning other viewpoints and hopefully expanding my horizons, cause none of us is 100 percent right so its better to have an open mind. Not my intention to be antagonistic, have read most of your articles and posts about this to understand where other people are.