America - You are the biggest threat to world peace

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: infolurker

I think if we just went total isolationist for about 20 years or so there would be some prime real estate open for grabs after.

I vote for a nice Disney-themed memorial park where England once was.

Perhaps. It is highly likely that any empires, as the may exist now, would be gone. In a technological world, communications technology breaks down boundaries and differences, leading to greater interrelationships.

In such a world, isolationism is likely to be the fastest way to ideological irrelevance, trade restriction and loss of political power.

Take a look at the trade wars just beginning and their coincidence with isolationism.

You are aware how VERY fragile this "technological world" really is, right? It would break down almost immediately if not due to lack of upkeep then due to intentional disconnection by TPTB that do not WANT you to intercommunicate. Because when you control the means of communication, you control the minds of those under which you rule.

Yeah, sounds like you haven't really thought this through completely, or, you simply do not think at all about real human nature. When resources are scarce, someone WILL take what you have, and dance on your neck while doing it.

You can't un-know things.

When millions of people, spread across the globe know how their bits of communications tech works, you aren't just going to make it go away. While ever there's a buck in it, someone will make it happen.

Look at how successful the record companies were in stopping file sharing.

Do you even know how the network works? Without the connections, your precious little "tech gadget" is a fancy paperweight that can play games. The backbone is what I am referring to here.....not the endpoints. How many people do you personally know that understand and could rebuilt the backbone if it was taken down? How long do you think a country would last if the connection and/or satellite communications were cut intentionally as part of a first strike?

With concerted effort, countries right now take days to recover from an unintentional disruption. Here is just a sample of recent events...and they happen repeatedly.

Not many people realize that undersea cables transport nearly 100 percent of transoceanic data traffic. These lines are laid on the very bottom of the ocean floor. They’re about as thick as a garden hose and carry the world’s internet, phone calls, and even TV transmissions between continents at the speed of light. A single cable can carry tens of terabits of information per second.

Map Shows Undersea Cable Locations That Are Critical for the Internet

Entire country taken offline for two days after undersea internet cable cut

Undersea cable cut knocks out Tonga's internet

Cable Faults & Maintenance Archives - Submarine Telecoms Forum

a reply to: chr0naut

History repeating itself - 1st come words of rhetoric, then escalation, then an "incident"

Rinse repeat - and the people buy it!

Trumps just another player marching the US into another war when the time is right.

originally posted by: madmac5150
a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

The last official rankings, were as followed:

1. Islamic terrorists

2. Soccer hooligans

3. Batman

4. Canadian maple syrup cartels

5. The United States

When did we move up? I must've missed it...

I have no idea when they moved up, but they are there now:

4 biggest threats to global peace: Guess who's No. 1?

Which Country Is The Greatest Threat to World Peace? - Brilliant Maps

Womp! This Country Was Named The Greatest Threat To World Peace - Huff Post

The Greatest Threat to World Peace - Noam Chomsky

Polls: US Is ‘the Greatest Threat to Peace in the World Today’ - Strategic Culture

Who is the biggest threat to world peace? - BBC News

The World Leaders Americans See As The Greatest Threats [Infographic] - Forbes.com

America: seen as the number one threat to world peace, says one survey

The U.S. Is The Biggest Threat To World Peace, According To A Poll - BuzzFeed

a reply to: Krakatoa

When resources are scarce, someone WILL take what you have, and dance on your neck while doing it.

Resources are so scarce ( sarcasm ) that the US creates the perceived scarcity to keep prices up - then invade for those same resources.

The fake oil crisis of 1973 helped make many billionaires. Funny how the price of oil remained high even when the "crisis" was over.

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

I just represent me.

Can I ask you a question?

Who was starting all the wars before America was around?

I mean, we're only just a couple hundred years old.

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: Krakatoa

When resources are scarce, someone WILL take what you have, and dance on your neck while doing it.

Resources are so scarce ( sarcasm ) that the US creates the perceived scarcity to keep prices up - then invade for those same resources.

The fake oil crisis of 1973 helped make many billionaires. Funny how the price of oil remained high even when the "crisis" was over.

I'm talking about essential resource for life. Last I checked, you cannot digest oil and live your life healthy. Food and water are the 2 top resources of which I speak. Without those, how long do you think you would live? And, if someone else needs them badly enough, they will attack you for yours.....that, my friend, is reality.

We are all hiding behind this "technologically advanced society" that provides the appearance of stability, and safety. It is all a mere week or two away from all falling to pieces, every minute of every day.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: madmac5150
a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

The last official rankings, were as followed:

1. Islamic terrorists

2. Soccer hooligans

3. Batman

4. Canadian maple syrup cartels

5. The United States

When did we move up? I must've missed it...

I have no idea when they moved up, but they are there now:

4 biggest threats to global peace: Guess who's No. 1?

Which Country Is The Greatest Threat to World Peace? - Brilliant Maps

Womp! This Country Was Named The Greatest Threat To World Peace - Huff Post

The Greatest Threat to World Peace - Noam Chomsky

Polls: US Is ‘the Greatest Threat to Peace in the World Today’ - Strategic Culture

Who is the biggest threat to world peace? - BBC News

The World Leaders Americans See As The Greatest Threats [Infographic] - Forbes.com

America: seen as the number one threat to world peace, says one survey

The U.S. Is The Biggest Threat To World Peace, According To A Poll - BuzzFeed

Well, it's about time. We have been WAY under-rated for far too long.

What we really need, is a true show of force to solidify our standing.

So... where do you live, again?

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: chr0naut

Like weapons are the cause of violence.
Thousands of years of human violence has taught us a thing or two.
Be it a rock or a laser guided missile, mankind is a brutal beast.

Like weapons have ANY other purpose.

Will you answer this to yourself or just pretend it isn't so?

How many of those guns pull it's own trigger? Will your 12 Gauge Shotgun hop up and shoot someone for you?

Do those planes with bombs take off without any help and fly themselves?

So those suicide bombers just spontaneously combust or do they build something to kill others with our without aid from the Mullah?

Or do people wanting to kill , kill with anything they can?

10 out of 10 psychopathic mass murderers prefer real weapons to killing with fresh fruit.

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

Do you really believe that there are not power plays always being planned and carried out by not every country but both political and religious idealogies within these countries in the world? In a way spreading our form democracy is no different than the crusades, I get that, but I also get that it's literally the epitome of human nature to try to control and try to break from control. It has been since our existence.

The thing is for peace to exist in this world we will have to have a similance of linear beliefs, so maybe all these people are not overall wrong in their belief that there way is the one, but they will be wrong in the way they try and achieve it. But what is good and bad what is peace are we talking immediatary or long term, macro or micro. It will take a lot of death to get to a point we are so interconnected but if it ultimately brought peace would you consider it bad?

a reply to: MisterSpock

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Just like how everyone was safe before guns showed up, people literally only started to die by the millions once the first gun was invented.

Nothing makes it easier to kill multiples of people in any setting than guns.

Not bows and arrows.
Not spears nor longbow.
Not knives or swords.
Not screwdrivers or hammers.
Not cars.

Mass killing at the tip of a finger?

Thats guns, specifically high cap semi auto. Nothing beats it for efficient killing ease.

At the hands of everyman, for their fetish or pleasure.

edit: well, poisoning the water supply may be more efficient, but its not finger tip accessible.

originally posted by: TheLead
a reply to: chr0naut

No they just control the market and eventually weed out the intended purpose of the product by selling cheaper less effective products that we gobble up trying keep up with each other. When you cant out right control something you flood the market to cover it, this is done to both products and information all the time. We are flooded with bad options to a point that we can't perform our due diligence and live our life, this is done so we ask daddy to step in and save us from ourselves and it works beautifully.

What about some of the latest models of Samsung phones sold into every other market but the US?

They aren't cheap, they aren't less effective, they aren't poor quality.

Perhaps something else is going on here?

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: chr0naut

History repeating itself - 1st come words of rhetoric, then escalation, then an "incident"

Rinse repeat - and the people buy it!

Trumps just another player marching the US into another war when the time is right.

If you point out something rational or truthful, they'll call you anti-American.

Fortunately for me, I am a non-American and can appreciate that there might be a difference.

a reply to: chr0naut

I'm not sure I know what you're referring to?

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: TheLead
a reply to: chr0naut

No they just control the market and eventually weed out the intended purpose of the product by selling cheaper less effective products that we gobble up trying keep up with each other. When you cant out right control something you flood the market to cover it, this is done to both products and information all the time. We are flooded with bad options to a point that we can't perform our due diligence and live our life, this is done so we ask daddy to step in and save us from ourselves and it works beautifully.

What about some of the latest models of Samsung phones sold into every other market but the US?

They aren't cheap, they aren't less effective, they aren't poor quality.

Perhaps something else is going on here?

Yet they all still rely upon a handful of undersea cables to be anything other than handheld games.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Who was starting all the wars before America was around?

I mean, we're only just a couple hundred years old.

We may not have invented it, but we are coming out with new versions.

I don't think that saying "we didn't start the fire" (shout out to Lysergic) means we can't improve how we conduct ourselves.

I think you agree with the idea we could dial back. I just don't think you like how direct this thread was.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

My opinion doesn't matter.

It's not like I can pick up a phone and change things.

Yeah, our politicians are dicks.

This isn't a newsflash.

They've been dicks probably since they wore powdered wigs.

a reply to: DBCowboy

My opinion doesn't matter.

It's not like I can pick up a phone and change things.

True.

But it doesn't mean you have to defend it either.

I think there have been some times that we have helped the civilized world, even with some of our actions recently.

But I don't think the needle is leaning that way(helping) in recent history.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

On behalf of America, I would like to apologize for America starting all the wars in the world since the beginning of time.

It was actually Kevin's fault. No one really likes Kevin. You can punch him if you'd like.

It's okay.

He's a jerk. Ask anyone.

Always allocating blame on someone else. It started young;

Kevin's mom: "Don't play with sharp knives, Kevin, you might cut yourself".

Kevin (brandishing knife and with those wild and crazy eyes),

"Mom, knives don't kill people. It's, it's, the body snatching giant brain creatures from Spinduloma who kill people. They're everywhere... You, you, could be one of them now. Even I could.... Oh, oh no....

Oh no, I'm thinking in my mind, making me do stuff.

Yet I can observe my thought processes, so who is me? Am I the observer or the observed?

I have to drink more grain alcohol and sniff mimeograph fluid to clear my head and help me gain control..." (runs from house, into the rainy street, trailing the toilet paper, still stuck to his bare backside).

a reply to: madmac5150


In the Virgo supercluster.

originally posted by: ErEhWoN
a reply to: MisterSpock

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Just like how everyone was safe before guns showed up, people literally only started to die by the millions once the first gun was invented.

Nothing makes it easier to kill multiples of people in any setting than guns.

Not bows and arrows.
Not spears nor longbow.
Not knives or swords.
Not screwdrivers or hammers.
Not cars.

Mass killing at the tip of a finger?

Thats guns, specifically high cap semi auto. Nothing beats it for efficient killing ease.

At the hands of everyman, for their fetish or pleasure.

edit: well, poisoning the water supply may be more efficient, but its not finger tip accessible.

Well, I dunno. Toss a molotov cocktail or pipe bomb into a crowded room and tell me how that compares.

Didn't some people with modified pressure cookers cause some problems in Boston a little while back instead of using guns? How did that compare?

Where there is a will there is a way.