1.92% of US population commits 75+% of mass shootings - Media remains silent

a reply to: Edumakated

I understand that. Is why my girlfriend and I can't get married. Minus the whole motherhood thing. If we did she'd lose her health benefits and be screwed. Which means I would need to take up financial responsibility for her health when I'm barely making ends meet for us while working 68 hours and forty minutes a week. She has severe problems she needs her medical benefits for.

Basically I've noticed that our government policies do in fact do what you say. If you're not already well off then marriage is out of the question. I make too much for her too keep any of her benefits but not enough to make ends meet if we get married and this is living in an apartment with a roommate sharing the costs.

If you make any money at all you lose benefits and trying to afford what you lost puts you in a place worse than you were before making any money.

The whole system is a trap. Is hard making ends meet. You start to make headway, but it's so little and takes too long that it's impossible to avoid some tragedy or issue knocking you back before you really find your way free.

I'm experiencing this system first hand.

a reply to: AScrubWhoDied
There are plenty of awful white people, far, far too many. White culture, morals and standards have declined drastically since World War II. But if you can’t recognize that black people are far more prone to violence and crime than white people you are out of touch with reality.

a reply to: Scapegrace

That's not exactly true.

Look at the stats. By every measure, immigrants who come to this country from Africa or the Caribbean nations do very well. The cultural decay hasn't set in with them. They work hard; they take care of their families and have intact families. They are far more successful and generally are going to be the blacks you see moving into the middle class far more often than blacks who have been here for generations.

There are exceptions of course.

a reply to: Puppylove

This is what is meant when we refer to the plantation. It's a system of dependency that isn't much to the level of median, but it's better than what many would be able to pull starting out in beginning income.

It's designed to trap you and not encourage you to work toward real independence at all. In many ways, slaves were kept in the same circumstances. It made independence scary because there was that gap. What they had was awful, but it felt like more than what they would be facing if let go, so many ended up in bad circumstances post emancipation unable to bridge that gap.

And politically, when you keep a bunch of people trapped in that kind of situation and convince them that if other people just weren't so greedy, they could have it all, and if you vote for me, I'll make them give you more ... well, you have endless power. No one ever notices how nothing ever seems to change much.

a reply to: neo96
No, he’s saying black males account for 75 percent of mass shootings. There are about 6 million to 7 million black males in America. They didn’t all commit mass shootings, just as each of the roughly 100 million white American males didn’t commit the remaining 25 percent of mass shootings.

Edit: I am stupid. I should have written there are about 20 million black males in America.

a reply to: ketsuko

You don't need to be black to fall into that trap. My girlfriend is disabled but not legally yet. We're fighting for her to get necessary tests and more done. I'm all she has in this world after a lifetime of abuse. I'm stuck working ALL the time to take care of us. I cannot afford time off other than emergencies with which too seek higher wages that will also result in the hours I need. I'm trapped. We're trapped. I can't and won't abandon her. Not only has she been abused all her life but now she's showing all the signs of MS like unarguably so. But her crap insurance is fighting helping or testing her... this is not the righr thread for this but I get the trap.

However I would say it's this trap that's the issue, the fatherless issue being a biproduct of it.

a reply to: DigginFoTroof

So again why are people against abortion?

a reply to: Puppylove

You don't have to be black at all. I think I've maintained that. I'm not black, and I've put my own sister into the category of falling into that culture. She married a man who comes from that trap.

The reason why we think so much about black Americans is because as a group, they've been heavily affected by it the longest, and when LBJ signed the Great Society into law (welfare), they were the group everyone was thinking of. It was there the trap began, and it is their community that's been the most affected by it.

But fatherlessness is certainly the big reason why you have gang violence. Fatherless boys creating a father system for themselves.

Who knows exactly what that fatherless culture will look like in other communities? Hispanics seem to have gangs too.

So I guess we'll see them in white communities as the problem becomes more widespread there.

Remember, this is a self-perpetuating cycle. It's much easier to fall into it then it is to get out of it. Short of removing the mechanisms reinforcing it and finding ways to rehabilitate entire segments of the population culturally, I'm not sure how we reverse this.

a reply to: ketsuko
I agree. Black immigrants have done much better, e.g., Nigerian-Americans may be the most highly educated ethnic group in the nation.

I feel sorry for the majority of black Americans who are decent, law-abiding citizens. Frankly, I compare badly with millions of them. It must be painful to hear about the stupid things some of their fellow blacks do, just as it’s embarrassing to me when some white idiot does something stupid.

I do think blacks are badly served by their “leaders,” who perpetuate the cult of victimhood in the black community. Blacks need to bravely face their problems, be honest with themselves and start to change their culture. They would do well to disregard black leaders and do what’s best for themselves, especially getting a good education and staying out of trouble.

I’m not holding white people up as some shining example for blacks to emulate. We have many, many serious problems that need addressing. The best example for blacks to follow is Asian Americans, especially those of Chinese, Korean, Japanese and Indian descent. Jewish Americans are another ethnic group we would all do well to emulate. Personally, I’m your typical Heinz 57 American with Scottish and Spanish (from Spain) ancestry and nothing special.

a reply to: Scapegrace

What I find embarrassing is that in 2019 there are still people that feel embarrassed by what someone else does simply because they share a similar skin color.

originally posted by: spacedoubt
Congratulations on your fixation.
What is your solution?
Be honest.

You seem to be implying quite a bit with your statement. Would you rather the truth be hidden, and that we would have never known?
Should crime be ignored "because of people's skin color"? To me it doesn't matter the skin color of people, the truth is the truth, and no matter the skin color criminals are criminals.

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: spacedoubt
Congratulations on your fixation.
What is your solution?
Be honest.

To me it doesn't matter the skin color of people, the truth is the truth, and no matter the skin color criminals are criminals.

Imagine that, judging people based on their actions and character instead of their skin color. So racist

a reply to: Gothmog
Lots of things government does feeds into it. Creating blackmarkets, then covertly feeding them is one of the big ones.

a reply to: namehere

I don't recall asking for anything, maybe honesty if you read behind the lines. I don't expect, nor want daddy government to fix everyone's problems, but on the other hand, I don't want them pumping in bull# that makes things worse either.

originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: Scapegrace

What I find embarrassing is that in 2019 there are still people that feel embarrassed by what someone else does simply because they share a similar skin color.

The other problem blacks have is the so many blacks have fallen into the trap that the rest face a stigma. Stereotypes aren't fair, but they also exist for a reason, often because there is a grain of truth there somewhere.

And when blacks say they feel like others view them with suspicion, they're likely right because of the horrific violence problems and cultural problems you see in certain segments of that population. The statistics make it out of all proportion to what you see in other groups.

Is it fair to them? No, but it's a nasty side effect of that violence and another reason why we need to stop putting the topic off limits because it's a racist thing to talk about it. Like we've already discussed on here. This is everyone's problem because the rot affects all people the same; the only difference is that it's more concentrated in some populations at the moment.

a reply to: ketsuko

Truth. Stereotypes don't necessarily make you bigoted either. I mean, if you're a woman about to take a shortcut down a dark alley in a rough part of town and notice a man down there alone, should you go down there and risk getting raped or mugged for social justice? Or should you acknowledge that men commit the vast majority of rapes and it's probably not wise for you to go that way and just take a different route?

a reply to: face23785

Oh I know. I grew up in the era of blonde jokes. I happen to be blonde. I'm sure we are all familiar with *that* stereotype.

a reply to: DigginFoTroof


Hmmmm.. white guy spends hours sifting through fbi stats in an attempt to prove young black males are really causing all the mass shootings....


Hmmm.. that isn’t shady at all..


Lol


First off don’t I constantly see pro-second amendment people claim the stats are propagandized by the fact any time shots are fired with more than 2 people it is a mass shooting, even though we all really mean terrorist attacks??

Aren’t you only using the shadiest of those stats to attempt to pin mass shootings on black males..


And obviously that is what happened since you clearly stated you specifically hunted down the stats on that group of people... you didn’t do the math on all groups and OOPS it was black males who “won”..


Nope you only went looking into black males..


That’s funny because I can only think of 2 terrorist attack mass shootings perpetrated by black males..


The Washington sniper, and that was really a very convoluted attempt to kill his wife, not your normal school/postal/exc mass shooting we all think of..



Chris Dorner, the Texas cop killer which was the stereotypical mass shooter.. for political or similar reasons...


Every other terrorist attack mass shooting I can think of was white males, Muslim males, and Bonny and Clyde type militant conservatives...

The Bonny and Clyde’s are always militant anti-government conservatives.


The school shootings are always upper to middle class white males.. (except the Asian Vtech shooter)..

a reply to: ketsuko

No, the real problem is that if you ask a white person if they are AT ALL responsible for the actions of any other white person , they will instantly answer “hell no, of course not.. that is ridiculous!”


But for some reason stereotyping other groups and pretending all blacks should be willing to pay the price for the actions of other African Americans, just makes nothing but sense...


“Of course cops need to shoot before verifying a threat!! Look at all the gangbangers they deal with.. “


“Of course black males in bad neighborhoods get harassed by cops. Look at all the crime they cause..”


Replace white with black in any of those type statements and it becomes obvious real fast how stupid it sounds..

a reply to: face23785

Hmmmm...


Then why spend hours specificlly only researching the stats on one group of people you do not belong too..

Hours of math and research we have no way of validating (because no one is going back to check his math) ..


Plus he is only using the stats most people agree are erroneously called mass shootings I the first place..

Black Americans probably perpetrate the least terrorist attacks of any group..

Now for more conventional crime that isn’t the case, but concerning terrorist attack mass shootings... it isn’t even close