Letter found in my front door Last Night just before Midnight.

a reply to: DISRAELI

That's very true. I never thought of it that way.

a reply to: and14263

Haven't got the guts. There is a little part of me that thinks it might be something big and I'd end up being roped into something lol.

a reply to: EchoesInTime

Not sure. I might have mentioned it in passing so that might be closer to home than I thought of.

a reply to: MissSmartypants

I'm not here to try to persuade you. I have explained a few times that I didn't do it and that's all I can do. If you believe I'd waste time doing that then thats on you.

a reply to: MissSmartypants

I'm not here to try to persuade you. I have explained a few times that I didn't do it and that's all I can do. If you believe I'd waste time doing that then thats on you.

a reply to: MissSmartypants

Not sure how I feel about my dead dog being pulled into it.

originally posted by: makemap
There are freemasons here though. If you read one of the threads they made.

Freemasons on Abovetopsecret

Must be an internal war going on. Some evil mad dude infiltrate the organization and using it like Hitler.

Don't listen to conspiracy theorist and boycott agenda of MK ultra and this is what you get.

It's a conspiracy site, the guy has a conspiracy so?.

Also it's worth saying I am not a Mason and actually have a religious reason for not liking the cult itself - that does not mean I have anything at all against individual's whom are members and if I were a business man I can see many avenues for back room alliances and deal's to be brokered within such a lodge with other's that could prove beneficial to a business man though these day's the Rotary club (many of whom are also mason's) has taken front bench were that is concerned BUT.

Not all Mason's are the same thing, they may visit one another's lodges, share a beer or wine, have the same or similar ceremony's but 'there are' guild's and group's within the lodges and guild's and sect's within sect's.

Being a mason is no longer the secret thing it once may have been and even masonic symbol's are now a fashion item, in some cases people buy themselves ring's with the insignia so that they can play act or some such nonsense or simply because they like the symbol which must leave some of them lost for word's when they can not answer a genuine mason correctly etc, now not that I am defending them or anything.

Masons despite claim's by some on this site whom claim to be high ranking members that contradict this are not older than one thousand years - they are probably closer to about 900 and gained there title from stone mason's whom used to build cathedral's the first recorded lodge was probably in part of what is today Germany and they had early royal patronage from a prince of that particular kingdom - it slip's my mind which one it was.

It is possible that due to there guild status and the fact that some members would also have been members of other guild's such as the Hansiatic League which was an international network of merchant's that spread right across the known world and maybe, just maybe even beyond the then known world but certainly allowed trade between the African and Islamic empires and the medieval European's and reached probably as far as China and maybe even Japan.

The Hansiatic league at least on the surface no longer exists or does it, could it have slipped into the umbrella of the Mason's?.
Though in fact the League was supposedly about two century's younger than the Masonic order and arose in Germany and it may have had it's origin's in the Freemason's as well, perhaps even an ancestor of the later aspirations of the Illuminate whom may have been also born of an offshoot of the Freemason's as the league is often referred to as the first common market though it's reach is widely believed to have spread far further than the evidence may suggest as I have suggested and even right into Asia, West and North Africa and Arabia unlike the official claim's that it only comprised of a trading network that linked parts of western Europe to one another.

It is interesting that as the Hansiatic league went quite the Illuminate supposedly came into being so were they really the Hansiatic league reborn? and are they really behind bankers today?.
Indeed despite the seeming disparity between legal profession and merchant's guild member could Weishaupf have actually been a high ranking member of a then Hidden remnant or faction of the seemingly disbanded or vanished Hansiatic league?.
youtu.be...
www.ancient.eu...

Then taking the fact that the Illuminate may actually be evil, given that ritual sacrifice is part of there initiation and some may have taken that to the full measure and actually committed human sacrifice could this have been an illuminate initiation.

Watch the girl's body bounce as he hit's her, the hit is not soft but hard.
It angered a lot of people in India for whom that statue is sacred and they saw this as a desecration of what to them is a shrine to one of there God's, Shiva and to them it does not matter if the killing was real or not it is a blasphemy against one of there most beloved deity's.

indianexpress.com...
Potentially sparking a new hidden war against the Illuminati and there Thuggie like ritual were the Illuminati could be seen as a very dire perversion of the original masonic concept and not an extension upon it no matter how much they may try to whitewash it - the Hellfire club a group of British aristocrat's that gave rise to the modern Bullingdon club of which many Tory party ministers are members and which is supposed to have been both pagan and devil worship also probably had it's root's in the Illuminate.

So are the Illuminati a break away sect of Mason's, perhaps also the continuation of the Hansiatic League twisted by satanic principles devised by Weishaupf?.
Are they behind the bankers and the most financially powerful men and institutions today an ancient enemy of the church that may have arison from a corruption of something that actually began as an innocent guild.

As a Christian though all I can tell you is watch this through and learn what the Virgin Mary think's of them, Satan reigning on earth through masonic sect's and of course that would include the Illuminati.


The fact is they shall not be tolerated in the Kingdom of God regardless of what one pope or another may say, most have known this and bowed to the will of God excommunicating them from the true cross at least as far as there own church authority goes while at least one may have been a mason himself - remember the murder of the vatican banker at London bridge though killed in accord with masonic oath.
www.maier-files.com...

a reply to: crayzeed

I think that's what I may end up doing. At least then they can do whatever they have to, whether that's throw it in the bin because they think it's a prank or whatever they think is best and I've been thinking that mentally disturbed might be the right way of thinking. I mean I very much doubt it is some great big conspiracy that just happened to fall into my lap as someone who visits ATS but thought I'd share and see if others had a different point of view.

a reply to: rickymouse

As I said to someone else, I am leaning more toward a nut or maybe the postman or someone was reading it when they dropped a leaflet through the door.

a reply to: LABTECH767

With respect that is way above my paygrade in terms of thinking. I'd love to read into it and get deeper into this war subject etc. but from your post alone I think it would confuse and freak me out. I was just hoping to find any reasoning behind the letter or if there was no reasoning behind the letter, thanks for your input.

a reply to: Dwoodward85

The whole world is a soap opera, every good soap opera (a very real and tragic soap opera with few happy ending's at least on this plane of existence) has a good conspiracy or more than one.
I have my opinion's and belief's and other's there's but if it ever interests you I would urge you to look into it more closely and draw your own conclusion's.
I once made the mistake of swearing a certain oath - I always keep my oath's but when I found out that it was against Christs will I rescinded it - not mason's but something similar (that may also have it's roots in the masonic order).
Thankfully I was not involved and swore the oath in good intent and so was released from my self inflicted situation by word's in the good book that actually forbid's the swearing of such an oath.

originally posted by: Dwoodward85
a reply to: MissSmartypants

Not sure how I feel about my dead dog being pulled into it.

You've double posted. I've obviously hit a nerve. Too bad since I was aiming for your funny bone.

a reply to: MissSmartypants

Recently dead dog and funny bone aren't really gonna go well together. I would've chuckeled at anything else but not the dog. Look at my thread about it and you'll understand why its a sore subject for me, though as you said you meant it in jest then I won't take it to heart.

a reply to: LABTECH767

I will have a look into it with an open mind. Always do no matter the subject I don't take oaths. Never have and never will my mind changes to often for that lol.

originally posted by: rickymouse
Well, if someone left you that letter, they probably know you come here to a conspiracy site. It must be someone you know well enough to have told you come to this or other sites. I do not understand why the person did not just become a member of a conspiracy site, you do not use your real name. Evidently the person has access to a computer, that does not look like a typed letter, it looks printed.

Or maybe you just have a weird neighbor. Not that uncommon. I wouldn't leave a note like that at someone's house I do not know. Also, it could have been dropped by someone like the mailman and it is not meant for you. Maybe someone accidently dropped it as they stole your Amazon order that was delivered.

What rickymouse said OR somebody who has heard you talk about ATS or conspiracy theories, and is messing with you for a laugh to see if you will call the number (which is their other friend's number, who is also in on it!)
Or not, lol...

Someone near you may be suffering from an advanced mental illness. I've heard of a similar story where a man made over 1000 copies of a nonsensical letter including occult information and he went around distributing it at random houses in an area.

He was diagnosed with a mental illness, and no harm came of the letters.

Sorry, but we do not have any exotic tech at our lodge... but im in Canada.
I say ask Augustus.
Hell, he's the one who probably wrote that.

a reply to: rickymouse

That is why I guessed monoxide poisoning..


The fact he is a conspiracy guy, who got left a conspiracy note, seems connected

a reply to: Dwoodward85

someone is having a bit of fun with you. That's not what we do.
And try this for a little Illuminati enlightenment. Done by a former ATS member.
www.illuminatirex.com...

If you are curios as to what Freemasonry is about, let me know. I'd be happy to share.

a reply to: new_here

I'm starting to think thats the most likely outcome. Most likely a family member who decided to have a chuckle.