Boeing 737 from Gitmo goes off runway into river in Jacksonville, Fla

A Boeing 737 jet arriving from Guantanamo Bay reportedly carrying 142 passengers and crew members went off the runway into the St. Johns River in Jacksonville, Fla., on Friday evening.

Boeing 737 from Gitmo goes off runway into river in Jacksonville, Fla



This crash involved the older and more reliable Boeing 737-800 aircraft. Boeing can't catch a break these days. I'm glad no lives were lost in this mishap.

a reply to: shawmanfromny

Glad to hear no lives are lost. Very rarely does one hear of such a thing.
Curious to know what the cause was. Human error of technical malfunction?

a reply to: shawmanfromny

Best I can think of at the moment is this, happend at Naval Air Station Jacksonville.


I'm used to seeing Miami Air a Private Air charter company transport sports teams and company events.. was not aware they did military contracts too. Atlas Air usually does this.. glad there were no fatalities just puckered butts.

Miracle on the St. John's???

Move over Sullenberger...

good no one was hurt
a reply to: shawmanfromny

a reply to: Allaroundyou

Landing in thunderstorms on a wet runway. My money is on human error.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Allaroundyou

Landing in thunderstorms on a wet runway. My money is on human error.

Most likely , hydroplaning on a wet runway

Nvm. 2nd picture.

a reply to: Bigburgh

stupid question , but

its a fact that aircraft can overshoot runways

why not have a " sand trap " at the end of runways that have a hazardous overshoot ??

a reply to: ignorant_ape

It's safer to hit the water.

They were saying that there may have been up to a half inch of water on the runway. I was stationed there in the 80's and have seen some close calls.

a reply to: ignorant_ape

Many airports do have just such a thing. It's usually not "sand" because sand would blow around in the jet blast, but rather a material specially placed to arrest runway excursions. They're like runaway truck lanes, but usually covered with another mastic like material to prevent FOD ingestion.

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: Bigburgh

stupid question , but

its a fact that aircraft can overshoot runways

why not have a " sand trap " at the end of runways that have a hazardous overshoot ??

Yes..
Not a stupid question at all.

We have breakable asphalt... designed to give way like runaway ramp for semi trucks on a highway. Zaph posted such a case not long ago of it in Burbank airport.

BTW.. everybody, animals did drown on this hydroplaning incident the DOT is saying.

Edit: flying clay disk knows.👍should have scrolled down. FCD did answer that..
www.popularmechanics.com...

EMAS is essentially a rectangular bed of 2,000 to 4,000 collapsible cubes glued in place at the end of a runway, nearly level with the ground. As a plane careens into the cubes, the cubes break apart. Friction between the cubes and the plane's wheels ultimately slows the plane to a stop. The system can safely stop a Boeing 737 traveling at 65 miles per hour in fewer than 300 feet.

Again... Flyingclaydisk beat me to it..

a reply to: Bigburgh

I was just going to ask about the animals, as I heard earlier, that all the people had gotten out, but they left the animals. Why the hell would they do that?
(They said they were pets)

a reply to: chiefsmom

Because they're transported in the hold. The priority is to get the people out, and by the time they could get to the hold, it was too late.

a reply to: Zaphod58

They did try but.
It was on my mind since last night when it was mentioned there were pets in the cargo area..
Now I know.

Someday maybe the aircraft manufacturers will build in a rapid inflatable airbag for aircrafts. Sure will cost a lot.

a reply to: Zaphod58

I kind of figured, seeing the way the plane was sitting in the water.
Yet another reason on my list of reasons not to fly.
If I didn't die in the crash, my dumb*** self would drowned trying to save my dog.
The older I get, the crazier my priorities get. LOL

a reply to: Bigburgh

I'm thinking more along the lines of access to the pressurized hold from the cabin that would allow quick access in accidents like these.

a reply to: chiefsmom

I probably would too, if I even allowed my dogs to fly after the stories I've heard and seen about the way some animals are treated.

a reply to: chiefsmom

I would have given it everything I had...

But if I'm dead. Hopefully a crew member knows how to quickly access that area. You can't be in row 18 and find the cargo via passenger door access. Maybe a crew person was making coffee.

Lesson.......
Anything and everything will happen if given the circumstances. Accidents are preventable but people keep reapplying the odds..

Thick water on a run way will be subject to hydroplaning. ( this storm happened as the descent was happening ) not a machine or pilot issue... the weather appears to have been troublesome at that very minute. Moment.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Bigburgh

I'm thinking more along the lines of access to the pressurized hold from the cabin that would allow quick access in accidents like these.

I know..
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