NBC caught using edited baby picture to push measles vaccination agenda.

No scruples whatsoever in journalism anymore. Sad day's.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: gallop

Whatever man. This isn't Wag the Dog. This isn't Canadian Bacon. This isn't a fake war, started because someone got caught getting spanked by a porn star.

This is a public service informative ad, created by CNN and the CDC (www.cdc.gov...). The photos in question are photo illustrations, meant to evoke caution and support for public health and safety.

Cool beans dude..

I mean it's like real so let's fake it..

That'll show 'em !

originally posted by: Somethingsamiss
a reply to: gladtobehere
I really can’t believe that people are still so against vaccination. But I guess you will always have those weak minded individuals who jump on the latest controversial bandwagon.

I used to believe vaccines were a good thing till I started reading many of the research articles on their effectiveness and examined what the Pharmaceutical companies said about them on their sites. I studied our immune system pretty much, and could not believe how the crap we are told about vaccines does not match information I have read about how our immune system works. Yes, with a few different kinds of conditions or diseases, the vaccines work well, but I feel that they are not addressing this whole thing correctly....using science to steer my opinion.

The vaccination system we have now will be looked at as very primitive in twenty years. The whole specific antigen system needs to be overhauled. For many this system is totally ineffective, for some it is even bad overall. Other countries are working on trying to boost the innate system, while in this country, the focus is on boosting numbers to make even more money on multiple vaccines. Boosting the innate system would still have some side effects, but I feel it is more beneficial than doing what we do in this country today.

I never had a vaccination for measles.
I ended up getting the virus, at about age 4, it almost killed me.
It was the fever part, my temp got really high, I hallucinated, had a Don Quixote moment with the living room curtains.
My mom later told me I thought the curtains were monsters or something.
The fever eventually broke, and I recovered.

Question for the unvaccinated:
What is your recommendation for unprotected kids, being near infants? Are you cautious, or aware of the virulence of Measles?

a reply to: Krakatoa

And fake, you forgot that little part.
It is a false image, meant to deceive you and force you to empathize with their narrative message.

And if it was a picture of a real child, suffering, you'd say that they were exploiting the pain of an innocent child to evoke fear to push their evil vaccination narrative.

a reply to: spacedoubt

Right. Anyway, why present fake pictures? I don't think it's trivial, I think it's stupid. All that does is feed the conspiracy theories. I mean, maybe that's why the thread was created?

We're all asking " what do YOU think about vaccines?" But that's not the point. Why create fake crap? That may not piss off the docile individuals around here, but some are sure as Hell sick of the fake ass douche-baggery going on in the media. It's been going on too long.

I don't think it's fair when the docile masses start flinging insults to those whom are sick of fake BS.

Carry on!

a reply to: Wookiep

Right. Anyway, why present fake pictures?

Simple.

Because it is a visual medium. Because the intent is to create an impact. Because people don't think about babies when they think of measles and they should.

Fake picture? Yes. Fake message? No.

But you're right. As this thread demonstrates, it provides fuel for the anti-vax fire and is counterproductive in that regard. But then, nothing will change anti-vax minds.

a reply to: Phage

Real message? Present real picture. Simple. Anything else is just stupid.

a reply to: Wookiep

More thoughts above.

originally posted by: Phage
Trump is in on it too!

'They have to get the shot'

www.politico.com...

EOT

Here is material safety data sheet on the MMR vaccine:

www.merck.com...




11 pages of an interesting read. I believe people should be allowed to make their own decisions to vaccinate or not. The picture is of no importance to the conversation of whether to vaccinate or not.

a reply to: Wookiep

Would a drawing be ok?

Look, I just think it was for illustration of the disease.
Stock photos are cheaper than what those professional baby models charge per hour anyway.
Can't imaging what the would charge for working on a sick day...!


I think the issue is not the photo, but people that don't trust their medical "pros".
The photo is an excuse for outrage. nothing more

a reply to: spacedoubt

I don't agree. The photo isn't an "excuse" for outrage. Rather more fuel to the fire that the MSM creates fake BS. But you know, opinions and all that..

a reply to: Phage

Because the intent is to create an impact. 

So it's okay to emotionally manipulate people with false images as long as it tends toward your desired result?

That's depressing.


For the record, I am very much pro-vaccination for those on the CDC schedule (I think the flu shot is bunk- sue me). I am still against mandatory vaccinations because I believe personal liberty is still important. Who knows what the next "mandatory action" you will try to manipulate me into with fake images will be, after all?


The way to fight bad ideas is with facts and good ideas. Not propaganda and manufactured outrage.

a reply to: RadioRobert

That's depressing.

Say it. So is disinformation.

The way to fight bad ideas is with facts and good ideas. Not propaganda and manufactured outrage.

Facts are often ignored but I don't think outrage over disinformation is manufactured and that is the point of the article, not an edited image.

a reply to: gladtobehere
Silliness. You can tell and spot when somebody has measles, be they a kid or whoever. Just like you can tell if a population is sick or there is an outbreak of anything. Do you know how? You go out and you use your eyes to see, and ears to hear. If its true you would see it or know of somebody who is suffering from it. If you don't, well then its not as highly spread as some like to portrayed it to be.

Key word being here "portrayed"

What was that line from the bible. "Those who have eyes let the see, those who have ears let them hear"

Anything else is but second hand hearsay. Who are these people from this NBC that wasted my one second to watch a doctored picture? Do they think measles is funny? Well I suppose there is some humor in it. But!

Ah! Never mind, it would be a waste of time to know.

a reply to: Phage

Because it is a visual medium. Because the intent is to create an impact. Because people don't think about babies when they think of measles and they should. 

Fake picture? Yes. Fake message? No. 

Facts are often ignored 

So skirting small ethical concerns is minor as long as it gets the results you want? Who cares if something is actually true as long as it creates the "impact" you find favourable and isn't ignored?

At least you're "honest."


What if someone else collects enough data to convince themselves they need to create false images to make an "impact" because their brilliant argument is being ignored?

If our intelligence community has convinced itself intervention in Syria is vitally important because Syria has chemical weapons and we need a friendly regime to prevent the evil Russians from building their pipeline, is it okay to doctor some images of dead kids? I mean kids might die to chemical weapon exposure. It's not really a lie. People are dying left and right in Syria. As long as it makes the right impact. Pesky facts and evidence might get tuned out by the masses,but an image of a kid with chemical burns would really drive the point home, don't you think?

"It's just a visual medium. The intent is to make an impact. People don't think about dead kids when they think about Syria, and they should. Facts are often ignored."

They didn't do a very good job of it. That doesn't even look like a measles rash to me. Google for images, and you'll see what I mean.

The harder they push, the more skeptical I become.

Lol, now you're that guy. a reply to: Phage

originally posted by: RadioRobert

For the record, I am very much pro-vaccination for those on the CDC schedule (I think the flu shot is bunk- sue me). I am still against mandatory vaccinations because I believe personal liberty is still important. Who knows what the next "mandatory action" you will try to manipulate me into with fake images will be, after all?

I agree. Twenty years ago, the idea that someone had the Right to Choose when it came to medical decisions was considered a plank in the Democratic Party platform. Now, they consider exercising rights to be using legal loopholes.

Up next, the MSM will be photoshopping machine guns into the hands of people killed in wrong address SWAT raids. "Disclaimer: This person didn't really have a gun at the time, but if they did this is what it would look like."

Disclaimer: The previous paragraph was pure BS. But it's OK because I was just trying to make an impact.