Notre Dame on fire in Paris

I wouldn't put it past Macron to put a couple of Euros tax on a tank of fuel like he wanted to before because of this.

Whatta bit of good luck for Macron.The Yellowjacket protests were eating at his popularity and this happens.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: SKEPTEK
This sure doesn't look like any firefighter I've ever seen.



twitter.com...

It's a Muslim guy.. In a Christian church

I kind of addressed that. I don't think this is actually a Muslim, but rather someone that wants us to think it is. My reasoning was stated in this ATS: This thread.

Since Islam also just lost a holy site to fire while this is happening, I'm going to say that this person is probably not Muslim, but is only dressed as one in case they got caught or was purposely seen so that it will entice a theological war.

Since, as I have stated in many other threads, those people that have benefitted for the 1947 National Security Act (which while being a US act had far reaching global implications) are losing their grasp on power. A war is within their doings to distract the world as to their corrupt ways, and much like the octopus a theological war is their inky cloud of escape. It's a shame that some religions never broke away from these types of people, or haven't adapted to the changing world and now are just tools of these National Security Act people.

It jus tseems odd that the same day that Islam had a simular event, the Christians have one too?

originally posted by: mike dangerously
Whatta bit of good luck for Macron.The Yellowjacket protests were eating at his popularity and this happens.

I cant see how this is good for him at all. His first reaction was about setting up international fundraisers to repair the cathedral.

What the F? They can't afford it themselves?

a reply to: RMFX1

300 million euros has already been pledged by just two French billionaires , if the rich people of France pitch in to help the effort to rebuild then the burden on the average French citizen is reduced , which I think is how it should be.

a reply to: vinifalou

People trying to pin this on Muslims is laughable, if anything it's an old building which is a monument to the rightfully crumbling ideas of religion, although from the historical and architectural point of view, it is sad.

Interesting article from less than a year ago, there's also others that talk about Notre Dam:

The government hasn't completely ignored the cathedral’s plight. In 2012, its bells were replaced to mark its 850th birthday. This year, authorities budgeted an extra €6 million ($6.84 million) to restore the spire. Water damage to the spire’s covering is threatening the wood-timber roof, which the medieval craftsmen built using 5,000 oak trees. The restoration will begin in the fall. But a Ministry of Culture official says Notre Dame should not expect regular help of this kind. To the government, the cathedral is just one of many old buildings in need of care. “France has thousands of monuments,” says the official, who was not authorized to speak to the media. Among them, Notre Dame is not necessarily the most pressing case. “It will not fall down,” she says.

time.com...

And there's Macron desperately trying to gain sympathy from it like the desperate, bought pig he is, there's more chance that this was an insurance scam

originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: djz3ro

How would the public free expression of a personal opinion/belief "risk the case" ?

Sounds like authoritarian BS excuses to me

Sounds like you don't understand how UK law works, funny that. You're assuming Yaxley-Lennon is being singled out when in actual fact it doesn't matter what the case was, it doesn't matter who the perp was, anyone in the UK attempting to revel the identity of suspect in a closed case would be arrested and righty so.

I'm sure we're actually meant to be discussing the Paris fire which has bollox all
to do with Yaxley-Lennon so I'm confused why you brought his case up in the first place.

Glad to see the majority of the building still standing today.

I wonder when they work out the cause of blaze if it will be the company handling the renovations or if it will be pinned on an individual...

My personal opinion is, no matter what religion you ascribe to, if at all, the fire at Notre Dame is a terrible tragedy for the antiquities of history. Places like Notre Dame are priceless irreplaceable treasures of our past and it is sad beyond description to see something like this happen.

Period.

a reply to: djz3ro

this is exactly what happened to the glasgow school of art

rennovations causing a fire !

but most likely for some prime real estate development oppornunity afterwards

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: RMFX1

300 million euros has already been pledged by just two French billionaires , if the rich people of France pitch in to help the effort to rebuild then the burden on the average French citizen is reduced , which I think is how it should be.

What does that have to do with Macron saying that there would be an international appeal for help?

Or with me saying that I can't see how this could be good for him?

a reply to: sapien82

I could be wrong, but I would think the real estate Notre Dame sits on would be worth exactly zero to developers.

Can you imagine having to endure the wrath of people being upset at having a modern business constructed on the site of a centuries old holy relic which had burned down??

On second thought...I guess Starbucks, McDonald's and Brakes Plus probably wouldn't have a problem with it. They'd build on top of Jesus' grave if they thought they could make a buck off of it.

originally posted by: RMFX1

originally posted by: mike dangerously
Whatta bit of good luck for Macron.The Yellowjacket protests were eating at his popularity and this happens.

I cant see how this is good for him at all. His first reaction was about setting up international fundraisers to repair the cathedral.

What the F? They can't afford it themselves?

Not just that it won't be good for Macron, this might be the last drop for him. In 2018 CBS had a report on how bad shape the cathedral is in. The renovation cost was about 185 million euros. The Macron gov was giving only 50 million and asked the US right then to help them with the rest of the 135 million.

To add insult to injury, later on, the Macron gov withdraw 2.5 million from the 50 million.

the thing is Nottre Dame has survived multiple wars and fires

I doubt this will see the place destroyed !

Shame though , that old buildings can be so easily damaged like this

and from rennovation as well !

a reply to: mike dangerously

It's aaaaall a big coincidence.

Stop asking questions!

originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: djz3ro

this is exactly what happened to the glasgow school of art

rennovations causing a fire !

but most likely for some prime real estate development oppornunity afterwards

After the first fire they rebuilt, I thought that was the plan after the 2nd fire too, that's sad it was an amazing building I used to pop in there to wait for a friend of mine finishing for the day before gig nights in the late 90's...

a reply to: Zcustosmorum

I think it's weird multiple churches were set on fire in France this year.

And then we have the symbolism of the 15th April, in the Holy Week.

If anything it's a huge coincidence...

a reply to: vinifalou

aye dates all seem symbolic , hahah even when we have extended brexit to the 31st October
how #ing weird that we hold it on such a date

when the veil is the thinnest between the realms !

especially for Scotland and Samhain (halloween)
this date is symbolic of great change

originally posted by: szino9

originally posted by: RMFX1

originally posted by: mike dangerously
Whatta bit of good luck for Macron.The Yellowjacket protests were eating at his popularity and this happens.

I cant see how this is good for him at all. His first reaction was about setting up international fundraisers to repair the cathedral.

What the F? They can't afford it themselves?

Not just that it won't be good for Macron, this might be the last drop for him. In 2018 CBS had a report on how bad shape the cathedral is in. The renovation cost was about 185 million euros. The Macron gov was giving only 50 million and asked the US right then to help them with the rest of the 135 million.

To add insult to injury, later on, the Macron gov withdraw 2.5 million from the 50 million.

Now this is far more suspicious and discussion worthy than smiling dark skinned people.

It would take a helluva set of balls to undertake a secret plan to burn up a national monument to refinance its repairs. The first thing you'd have to take into consideration is what if it went too far and destroyed the building beyond repair?

a reply to: gortex

Not so sure it's a good idea to be flaunting your wealth, whatever the cause, at this time... especially in France. You've got people barely living on a couple hundred Euros a month and then you have these billionaires able to pledge pocket change to the tune of millions for a building? What about the people?

Gilet Jaunes do not be distracted.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Bollocks. There have been greater "tragedies" for the antiquities of history in the last decade yet the world barely batted an eye-lid. # Notre Dame, it's a piece of concrete... there are people barely living in France and this piece of # is put across the front pages? 22 weeks of protests and barely any coverage.

"Places like Notre Dame are priceless irreplaceable treasures of our past", not my past... in fact the majority of people wouldn't know what/where this place was if it wasn't for Disney.