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originally posted by: EchoesInTime
a reply to: LSU2018
Many of the worlds leaders, especially Muslim countries will have a huge problem in dealing with a gay President. How would he handle that? Some may even refuse to shake his hand or meet with him.
As much as his sexual preference is nobody's business, and he shouldn't be running on "identity" politics and being a "cute gay couple", it will matter very much if he's elected when dealing with bigoted world leaders.
originally posted by: LSU2018
You need to ask him that. There's no reason to put your sexual preference out there unless you think it will bring votes in.
Have you ever seen a presidential candidate announce that he's straight?
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: network dude
Why does anyone need to know he's gay?
Well, his husband is kind of an elephant in room...
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
Why does anyone need to know he's gay? Or is his gayness his edge and ticket into the big time? So he's not good enough to make it on his own merit, he needs the "gay" qualifier to push him over the edge? I'd be ashamed to have to go through life like that.
From wiki.
Buttigieg is a Rhodes Scholar and a magna cum laude graduate of Harvard University. From 2007 to 2010 he was a consultant at McKinsey and Company, a management strategy consulting firm.[2] From 2009 to 2017 he served as an intelligence officer in the United States Navy Reserve, attaining the rank of lieutenant and deploying for the War in Afghanistan in 2014.
Seems like a reasonably impressive CV to me. How is his 'Gayness' giving him an edge?
he could be the FIRST GAY PRESIDENT!!!!
originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: EchoesInTime
in fact would love for someone gay and atheist just to expose the real bigotry in the world.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: LSU2018
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: LSU2018
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
Why does anyone need to know he's gay? Or is his gayness his edge and ticket into the big time? So he's not good enough to make it on his own merit, he needs the "gay" qualifier to push him over the edge? I'd be ashamed to have to go through life like that.
From wiki.
Buttigieg is a Rhodes Scholar and a magna cum laude graduate of Harvard University. From 2007 to 2010 he was a consultant at McKinsey and Company, a management strategy consulting firm.[2] From 2009 to 2017 he served as an intelligence officer in the United States Navy Reserve, attaining the rank of lieutenant and deploying for the War in Afghanistan in 2014.
Seems like a reasonably impressive CV to me. How is his 'Gayness' giving him an edge?
he could be the FIRST GAY PRESIDENT!!!!
Pretend you don't get it, your kids might believe you, I don't.
Do you have a problem with someone Gay being president?
Yes. Because he should run on his merits, not his sexual preference. Americans don't need to know if he's gay or not, they just need to know his platform. Being gay is neither here nor there.
How does being gay stop him running on his merits?
You need to ask him that. There's no reason to put your sexual preference out there unless you think it will bring votes in.
Have you ever seen a presidential candidate announce that he's straight?
Since the assumption is that they are why would they need to?
And of course no presidential candidate has ever bragged about his success with the ladies...
originally posted by: Flavian
originally posted by: LSU2018
You need to ask him that. There's no reason to put your sexual preference out there unless you think it will bring votes in.
Have you ever seen a presidential candidate announce that he's straight?
Yes. Every time they bring their partner out for the media.
Straight or gay should not matter, the best candidate should get the job.....
A person who is INTOLERANT towards a person who holds a different opinion or views. What else would you call being unwilling to even deal with a person simply for being gay or atheist? What else would you call people who murder and kill gays or atheists because they disagree with them?
originally posted by: LSU2018
originally posted by: EchoesInTime
a reply to: LSU2018
Many of the worlds leaders, especially Muslim countries will have a huge problem in dealing with a gay President. How would he handle that? Some may even refuse to shake his hand or meet with him.
As much as his sexual preference is nobody's business, and he shouldn't be running on "identity" politics and being a "cute gay couple", it will matter very much if he's elected when dealing with bigoted world leaders.
Great point. I hadn't even thought about that but I'd be surprised to see anybody outside of (at the current point) Canada or England meet with him.
originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: gortex
I don't have a problem with straight men using the Bible as a tool. That's normal.
If you don't like then that's your opinion and you can vote against anyone using it. Then we can forget about it and all move on. Pretty cool huh?
originally posted by: LSU2018
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: LSU2018
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: LSU2018
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: network dude
Why does anyone need to know he's gay? Or is his gayness his edge and ticket into the big time? So he's not good enough to make it on his own merit, he needs the "gay" qualifier to push him over the edge? I'd be ashamed to have to go through life like that.
From wiki.
Buttigieg is a Rhodes Scholar and a magna cum laude graduate of Harvard University. From 2007 to 2010 he was a consultant at McKinsey and Company, a management strategy consulting firm.[2] From 2009 to 2017 he served as an intelligence officer in the United States Navy Reserve, attaining the rank of lieutenant and deploying for the War in Afghanistan in 2014.
Seems like a reasonably impressive CV to me. How is his 'Gayness' giving him an edge?
he could be the FIRST GAY PRESIDENT!!!!
Pretend you don't get it, your kids might believe you, I don't.
Do you have a problem with someone Gay being president?
Yes. Because he should run on his merits, not his sexual preference. Americans don't need to know if he's gay or not, they just need to know his platform. Being gay is neither here nor there.
How does being gay stop him running on his merits?
You need to ask him that. There's no reason to put your sexual preference out there unless you think it will bring votes in.
Have you ever seen a presidential candidate announce that he's straight?
Since the assumption is that they are why would they need to?
And of course no presidential candidate has ever bragged about his success with the ladies...
Because there's no need to tell everyone your sexual preference. We don't care, and we never have. But once you tell everyone, don't be surprised if you lose voters over it. In today's climate, all the democrats will focus on with a gay candidate is his sexuality and it will be used to call all who oppose him a homophobe.
I'm sure you're referring to Trump, who never bragged about his success with the ladies as part of his platform. ABC News brought up his success with the ladies in an effort to make him look like a misogynist. Thanks for the reminder.
originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: LSU2018
A person who is INTOLERANT towards a person who holds a different opinion or views.
What else would you call being unwilling to even deal with a person simply for being gay or atheist? What else would you call people who murder and kill gays or atheists because they disagree with them?
originally posted by: CynConcepts
originally posted by: Flavian
originally posted by: LSU2018
You need to ask him that. There's no reason to put your sexual preference out there unless you think it will bring votes in.
Have you ever seen a presidential candidate announce that he's straight?
Yes. Every time they bring their partner out for the media.
Straight or gay should not matter, the best candidate should get the job.....
I would respect this candidate more if he simply brought his partner/spouse out the same way and made the statement that his policies are what define him not his gayness. End all debate.
In reality, most of the homosexual population go about their lives just being, not introducing themselves as being gay. It may come up briefly but usually is a non topic to most interactions in daily life. They don't define themselves as gay...they just are who they are individually.
originally posted by: Flavian
originally posted by: CynConcepts
originally posted by: Flavian
originally posted by: LSU2018
You need to ask him that. There's no reason to put your sexual preference out there unless you think it will bring votes in.
Have you ever seen a presidential candidate announce that he's straight?
Yes. Every time they bring their partner out for the media.
Straight or gay should not matter, the best candidate should get the job.....
I would respect this candidate more if he simply brought his partner/spouse out the same way and made the statement that his policies are what define him not his gayness. End all debate.
In reality, most of the homosexual population go about their lives just being, not introducing themselves as being gay. It may come up briefly but usually is a non topic to most interactions in daily life. They don't define themselves as gay...they just are who they are individually.
I can't say i really disagree with you. I was simply pointing out that other candidates openly profess their sexuality also. As sexuality seems to be such an issue for some, possibly he was simply getting it out there before it may become an issue? (not that it should).
originally posted by: gortex
originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: gortex
I don't have a problem with straight men using the Bible as a tool. That's normal.
Then you don't have a problem with a gay man using it too , or is that not normal ?
If you don't like then that's your opinion and you can vote against anyone using it. Then we can forget about it and all move on. Pretty cool huh?
Personally I'd rather people kept the Bible out of politics , religion and state should be kept separate.