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Brexit What Are EU Countries Doing To Prepare For No Deal

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posted on Mar, 30 2019 @ 07:29 AM
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Germany has produced less detailed public information than France, which has led to some frustration among business leaders and opposition parties.

The German government has a special Brexit cabinet, led by Chancellor Angela Merkel. It says it is well prepared for all eventualities, including the UK leaving the EU without an agreement on 12 April.

Behind the scenes, Germany is making many of the same preparations as France, including the recruitment of additional personnel.In areas of social security, tax issues and financial services, the German government has initiated new legislation with the aim of creating legal certainty if there is no deal. But the government says its biggest priority is protecting the interests of citizens on both sides of the Channel. In the event of no deal, the government would give British citizens living in Germany an initial period of three months during which their rights to live and work there would not change. However, they would have to apply for residence permits during that period.

The French Parliament passed a law in January togive the government (rather than parliament) the power to introduce new measures by emergency decree to cope with a no-deal Brexit. The law covers, among other things, the rights of UK nationals living and working in France.

Ireland passed no deal Brexit legislation in February, which covers a number of important issues such as allowing for pension and other benefits to be paid, for cross-border rail and bus services to continue and for citizens to access services across the border as they do now. But, the most important issue - the future of the land border with Northern Ireland - does not feature in the legislation.

A little bird has tweeted that were there to be no deal , the EU will no be building a hard Irish border : they're bluffing , of course . But it shows how deep they will dig to try and gain political advantages from aggressive protectionism over trade , very much like the mafia racketeering the local shops . That area used to be a warzone , and they'd be insane to meddle with the UK rezsolve on that basis . But hang on , they did do that ? They threatened UK security and the Irish locals on the basis of making Brexitas difficult as possible for the UK ? Yes ? One imagined we strictly don't negotiate with *those kinds* of tacticians .

The UK parliament has rejected Theresa May's divorce deal with the European Union for the third time. The European Commission said a no-deal Brexit on 12 April was now "likely".

The UK government has stepped up its planning for a no-deal Brexit, covering areas such as transport, healthcare, energy, food and water.

Manfred The EU policy machine has recognised and prepared , for itself , what the proper British negotiating stance should be - no deal .

No deal .... for now , obviously . There's nothing about leaving now with no deal that precludes not making a deal in the future . All the advantages are gained by doing that , and the disadvantages for the UK are minimised . When the EUhave been expecting a no deal outcome , the UK are also prepared for the scenario , what's to be lost by going ahead ? Oh yes , the small matter of 40 billion Euros , for the EU .

So we should expect tm to say 'no deal' and walk away from the Union without the burden of any agreements , on the 12th April . She should say to the EU: we expect you to follow through with suitable transition arrangements , as discussed , but on a diplomatic basis , where you do us a favour and are courteous , and not on the basis of you trying to save your precious political union , at our expense , anymore .

Let's remind ourselves that any business worth it's salt has prepared for no deal . It's the default outcome for anyone sensible who understands business and political affairs , and especially how to negotiate effectively : a no brainer really .
First extricate from any extra responsibilities you don't need to have that don't pay you dividends or don't strengthen your stance , and then go forward from that stronger position .

Both the EU and the UK governments have prepared for the no deal outcome , in all the relevant areas of technicality .
So what's anyone still afraid of from a no deal, immediate Brexit ?

posted on Mar, 30 2019 @ 08:26 AM
a reply to: DoctorBluechip

Right we have always been a NET contributor to the EU giving far more money than we ever received form them and the way that work's is the corrupt bureaucrat's at every stage got there share so British tax payer money often ended up in there pockets and meanwhile we are supposed to be in DEBT to the EU when in fact it is the EU that owe's us literally hundreds of billion's of pound's that we shall never now see.

May's deal was to offer to give them even MORE money to leave a club that has leached off of us for many years now.

The French had a long history as do the Spanish and the Portuguese of POACHING in our waters, over fishing and then claiming WE are poaching in there's cheeky hard faced lying blighters that they are and argument's over that mostly only ended when our waters became there waters under EU common fisheries policy's so our lazy arsed politicians whom are really only in it to fill there own pocket's could then look the other way.

We used to have a NAVY and not be afraid to use it to back up our fishermen against these scum bag poachers whom were fishing in OUR territorial waters but thank's to Cameron's government - same guy that may was working for in his cabinet back then our already beleaguered naval assets shrank drastically leaving us ill prepared to police our own waters once we leave the EU.

Go back further, WE were the one's with the smashed infrastructure the blood french surrendered to the NAZI's so most of there factory's could be got up and running after the war with a few instances were strategic bombing had been carried out on site's the German's were using and other's were they had nicked the machinery.

The Italian's were our enemy remember, Spain was neutral though it had it's own fascist government led by a guy that SCARED Hitler and Europe was being stripped of it's asset's by the Nazi invaders.

Once we had won that war - did we really? - we had to then pay the yank's, also as part of our deal with the yank's we had to also dismantle our empire and meanwhile our factory's were in ruin's, our city's were in ruin's and we had no money, our people were on ration's until the 1950's and we while still rationing our own population were still actually shipping food and resources to Europe to help in there reconstruction with no one really keeping a tally of what they owed us OR they would find that they would likely be paying us several trillion pound's - meanwhile a small group including members of the NAZI elite got very - very rich in the aftermath - they you know as the men behind the TROIKA among other thing's.

Were may went wrong.

Letting them demand money from us for EU project's we had supposedly signed up too while NOT demanding money from them including WAR reparations from Germany which we in fact should have done a long time ago and to the full extent of those losses.

May had no backbone until she thought they were laughing at her personally - she should have treated them like the Dog's they ARE and demanded our money back.

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posted on Mar, 30 2019 @ 09:10 AM
U.S. President Donald Trump's eldest son said the "establishment" is trying to "silence the voices" of those who voted for Brexit and elected his father.

Writing in the Telegraph, Trump Jr. said British Prime Minister Theresa May has "promised on more than 50 separate occasions that Britain would leave the EU on March 29 2019. She needs to honour that promise."

"But Mrs May ignored advice from my father, and ultimately, a process that should have taken only a few short months has become a years-long stalemate, leaving the British people in limbo."

Trump Jr., whose net worth is reputed to be $200 million and who is executive vice president of his father's business empire, also said that "elites control London from Brussels" and that with the Brexit deadline fast approaching, "it appears that democracy in the UK is all but dead."

"Instead, the Democrats and deep-state operatives in our justice system have been colluding to subvert the will of the American people, with high-level officials even discussing a scheme to try to remove him from office using the 25th Amendment of our constitution.

"In a way, you could say that Brexit and my father’s election are one and the same — the people of both the UK and the US voted to uproot the establishment for the sake of individual freedom and independence, only to see the establishment try to silence their voices and overturn their mandates.

"What we’re seeing now in Washington, London and Brussels is the desperate, last-gasp attempt by those previously in power to cling on to what was once theirs in the face of an overwhelming mandate for change."

From politico

he is quite the conspiracy theorist nes pas

also Trump's good for a bilateral trade deal after brexit /ref

posted on Mar, 30 2019 @ 09:40 AM
a reply to: DoctorBluechip

So what's anyone still afraid of from a no deal, immediate Brexit ?

Nothing to fear from No deal because it won't happen , if there is no progress before the extension date another extension will be agreed , and on , and on , and on until we've forgotten what the extensions were for.

Brexit didn't happen on March 29th because Brexit is dead , it's deader than a Norwegian Blue Parrot and there's nothing we can do about it..

The Powers That Be say No to Brexit and as if by magic winners become losers.

Democracy ? ....HA !

posted on Mar, 30 2019 @ 02:05 PM
You had a very stable market for your automobile exports, natural gas and petrols and medicaments. These are no secrets, you can read about them everywhere.

These exports will go down until you have to look up to see hell...

And then, then the very-smart people in fond of the Brexit on this board will push the guilt to the EU. As if your government could get their act together and start acting like one. Including providing for any foreseeable risks.

Do not think that the rest of the EU will drop to their knees and beg you to rejoin.

posted on Mar, 30 2019 @ 03:03 PM
a reply to: ManFromEurope

No one is saying our government of utter self invested idiot's are good but the fact is that the Brussel's elite are a group of thieving criminal's whom have deliberately indebted several European nations such as Spain, Malta and even Eira (Ireland) as well as several other nation's.

These Brussels elite are NOT for the good of European's but are pushing to impoverish you, to make you poor so that you will be a ready labor market to be exploited by there international banker corporate masters.

Indebting nation's whom formerly had almost NO negative GDP or National debt such as Spain and Malta is a deliberate policy as is the Recent pan European austerity drive to destroy social democracy and remove social welfare safety net's as a part of the drive to reduce the pay rate of Europeans as a whole (it is being pushed harder in those nations outside of Germany I wonder why?).

Do you not see we are trying to break free not only from Brussels' corruption and there Troika/Bilderberg masters but also from our own country's corrupt elite control of our economy, we need to be free so that we can restore our democracy which has been undermined and now may even have been proven to be a sham if the MP's get away with disrespecting the will of the British Electorate.

Now whether you like it or not the EU is a sham, it is a lie disguised as a democratic alliance but in fact it is a way of enslaving the people of Europe formerly the wealthiest section of the earth's population overall in order to push for not only EU but global control by a few very powerful elite secretive and banking family's, they do NOT have your well being at heart, they do not have your nation's well being at heart they only have there internationalist non democratic corporatocracy at heart.


Or to put it in the word's of the ancient Bostonian's of America NO TAXES WITHOUT REPRESENTATION.

I am not saying you are wrong I am saying I disagree and think that though vile weather may be ahead of us we will sail through it and come out stronger than before if we do break free - the Scot's want to go there way then let them they are only part of the union (they they were already the second kingdom of the same royal line) because there own elite sold them and there former autonomy to the English parliament when they broke the back of Scotland's limited economy on an ill fated attempt to colonize Panama - they sent woolen blankets and cold weather gear and plant's native to Scotland with there colonists to the equator - they mostly died of tropical disease not long after arriving there) and they shall find themselves not better but far worse off as a consequence especially as the EU has no wish to have Scotland back without a full negotiation period and proof that Scotland has something to offer them - though they undoubtedly would eventually if only to gain access to the Scot's fishing ground's and to pillage them again.

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posted on Mar, 30 2019 @ 06:25 PM

originally posted by: ManFromEurope

Do not think that the rest of the EU will drop to their knees and beg you to rejoin.

The UK would not rejoin the EU again once they are out of their clutches if they

were paid to.

The EU is on the way out...27 countries? Only a third of them have economies

of any strength the remainder are financial dependents.

So the EU is more quantity than quality.

Then there there is Greece mega debts, Spain not doing well, Italy in recession,

and Germany on the brink ...... and now they are loosing their second largest

economic contributer

The UK unemployment figures are better than any of the other EU countries?

Whats that saying? ....The bigger they are the harder they fall.

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posted on Mar, 31 2019 @ 05:44 AM

originally posted by: eletheia
Do not think that the rest of the EU will drop to their knees and beg you to rejoin.

Interesting point. To add...

1. If the UK never joined the EEC in 1973, and it was proposed to join the EU today, based around the way the EU currently works, no politician worth their salt would agree. There would be no question of joining.
2. Some nations genuinely don't want the UK to leave. The UK has been a brake on the federalisation and centralisation of the EU. Take away the brake and it's a rapid move to a more insular Europe run by France and Germany. These countries have also seen the behaviour of the EU in the Brexit talks, so know they are doomed to remain under the metaphorical club, and in a club which will become increasingly homogeneous and where the nation state is secondary and fully de-clawed.
3. The fanatical steps of MPs who want to stay in the EU in derailing the UK's leaving is rather sad. Coupled with the terrible judgement the Labour Party have taken to turn crass party politics of the leaving. Unhelpfulness from the beginning. Corbyn, who has met with the IRA, Hamas and a whole bunch of unsavoury characters in his life, but refused to meet the Prime Minister to discuss Brexit. What a dick.
4. That's all...
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