Greenland Glacier Starts Growing Again..Does It Prove Global Warming Theory A Myth?

a reply to: luthier

Yeah - I know how it works(ed).

Chery picked scientists from thousands to make a "97% said" claim.
Propaganda.
Attacks on people who ask questions.
The gravy train of grants.
The people get screwed with higher taxes/costs

Enjoy your religion. Fortunately, less people seem to follow your cult these days...and no, the world isn't ending in 12 years.

When your priests stop manipulating data - including changing historical data - let me know.


Man made global warming that will kill us all, Niburu, Russian Collusion, Big Foot, Gay Frogs, Lizard people - all the same nonsensical hysteria.

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: whywhynot

Sure. And animals have gone extinct.

Personally I think the general devastation of habitat is the real concern. When we have monocropped and devastated wildlife and disease or famine run wild our ability to rebound will be very limited.

Sure animals have gone extinct including dinosaurs. Recall from your grade school science class that dinosaurs lived in an age before humans and did not die off because of humans.

The current Solar Minimum is likely affecting the glacier and our climate www.nextbigfuture.com...

a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

The current Solar Minimum is likely affecting the glacier and our climate

Did the previous Solar minimum (2009) have the same effect? Did it cause a glacier in Greenland to begin to regrow? The sunspot number was really low then.
www.abc.net.au...

Doesn't seem to have cooled much of anything.

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: whywhynot

Sure. And animals have gone extinct.

Personally I think the general devastation of habitat is the real concern. When we have monocropped and devastated wildlife and disease or famine run wild our ability to rebound will be very limited.

Sure animals have gone extinct including dinosaurs. Recall from your grade school science class that dinosaurs lived in an age before humans and did not die off because of humans.

Dinosaurs continuously evolved for hundreds of millions of years. Today their survivors are reduced to alligator family, lizard family, bird family. Dinosaur species died out continuously over millions of year. Species come and go all the time.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

The current Solar Minimum is likely affecting the glacier and our climate

Did the previous Solar minimum (2009) have the same effect? Did it cause a glacier in Greenland to begin to regrow? The sunspot number was really low then.
www.abc.net.au...

Doesn't seem to have cooled much of anything.

Today's temperatures are puny compared to medieval warm period. Medieval warm period was a full degree C warmer than today. Much of Greenland was covered in grassland.

a reply to: AdamEarthHeiman

Yes. Greenland, like Europe, seems to have been warmer during the MWP than it was later on. The Vikings were able to do some farming there, for a while, apparently.


However, more recent temperatures in Greenland seem to be warmer than they were during the MWP. Warmer even, perhaps, than the Roman and Minoan periods.
Here is the GISP2 ice core data and the MWP can be clearly seen, added, are actual observed temperatures from 2009.
www.skepticalscience.com...


In any case, as has been pointed out, using a location which has a climate highly susceptible to marine influence is not a good gauge for global temperatures, ancient or current, and what happened 1,000 years ago doesn't have much to do with what's happening now.

a reply to: Phage

So if climates with marine influence are not good gauges, why then is everyone looking directly at those areas.

LoL.

Seems, is not good enough, imaginations are running wild and what happened a thousand years has EVERYTHING to do with what is happening now.

Why look at ice cores and claim anyone can accurately tell us the dates of said ice when it cannot be mapped properly from even 10 years ago.

These models you pray too, are just that, models.

They are inaccurate and use biased, flawed, incomplete and also as tainted as any datasets are.

The algorithms used have been incorrect across the board, and yet get used again and again.

These climate scientists are either really stupid or not allowed to properly and fully look at all possibilities.

Maybe in another 500 years at this point they will start coming close.

Meanwhile, soon your carbon taxes are gonna be thrown out on there keister's by some people demanding absolute proof.

The trustful sheep are not going to stop them, got no chance at all.

a reply to: ParasuvO

So if climates with marine influence are not good gauges, why then is everyone looking directly at those areas.

Everyone isn't. But some people are thinking that because there is a growing glacier there, it means there is no global warming.

originally posted by: Fallingdown
a reply to: climateexp
I looked into a climate scientists a little bit.

From what I could see the only degree you need is a bachelors . 🤦‍♂️

We judge them by their work not as much their degree. Some mighty fine scientific advancements from so called lay people.

Accomplishments and accuracy is the way we should judge them professionally IMO. I quit lurking years back over failing to follow the Scientific process that these data hacks lack. Integrity went out the door with the IPCC and Al Gore.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: ParasuvO

So if climates with marine influence are not good gauges, why then is everyone looking directly at those areas.

Everyone isn't. But some people are thinking that because there is a growing glacier there, it means there is no global warming.

Change is due to the Electromagnetic field and you deny, deny deny. While lie after lie is exposed. You are supporting liars Phage. Shame on you for not believing the Scientific process but pretending to do so. You are not looking solidly with the Man is raising sea levels myth.

a reply to: Justoneman

No.

NASA's Oceans Melting Greenland (OMG) project has revealed Greenland’s Jakobshavn Glacier, the island’s biggest, is actually growing, at least at its edge. In research published Monday in Nature Geoscience, researchers report that since 2016, Jakobshavn’s ice has thickened slightly, thanks to relatively cool ocean waters at its base—which have caused the glacier to slow down its melt. This reverses the glacier’s 20-year trend of thinning and retreating. But because of what else is happening on the ice sheet, and the overall climate outlook, that’s not necessarily a good thing for global sea level.

That's because, despite the fact that this particular glacier is growing, the whole Greenland ice sheet is still losing lots and lots of ice. Jakobshavn drains only about seven percent of the entire ice sheet, so even if it were growing robustly, mass loss from the rest of the ice sheet would outweigh its slight expansion.

It may sound a bit confusing, but that’s because the reality of climate change isn’t a straight line, say NASA researchers.

www.nationalgeographic.com...

Where are the alleged lies now, care to elaborate?

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: Justoneman

No.

NASA's Oceans Melting Greenland (OMG) project has revealed Greenland’s Jakobshavn Glacier, the island’s biggest, is actually growing, at least at its edge. In research published Monday in Nature Geoscience, researchers report that since 2016, Jakobshavn’s ice has thickened slightly, thanks to relatively cool ocean waters at its base—which have caused the glacier to slow down its melt. This reverses the glacier’s 20-year trend of thinning and retreating. But because of what else is happening on the ice sheet, and the overall climate outlook, that’s not necessarily a good thing for global sea level.

That's because, despite the fact that this particular glacier is growing, the whole Greenland ice sheet is still losing lots and lots of ice. Jakobshavn drains only about seven percent of the entire ice sheet, so even if it were growing robustly, mass loss from the rest of the ice sheet would outweigh its slight expansion.

It may sound a bit confusing, but that’s because the reality of climate change isn’t a straight line, say NASA researchers.

www.nationalgeographic.com...

Where are the alleged lies now, care to elaborate?

Will NASA work for you as a source?

coldclimatechange.com...

Did you read any of the threads I shared, there is a good discussion and Phage gets schooled almost every time? He doesn't believe in Scientific approach for that subject. He throws away facts like not having even one prediction right for the long range model forecasts. Not one.

a reply to: PublicOpinion
Here is a Dr Mann caught in his lies and Dr Ball won more than one libel suits against Dr Mann (the plaintive).
THIS is real: