Imagine if voters needed a background check, mental evaluation & HS diploma to vote & be 21yrs+?

If the republicans passed or even proposed a law all of the following:
"You can not vote unless you go through a background check"
"you can't vote until you have a mental evaluation"
"you can't vote if you don't have a certain level of education" (let's say a high school degree)
"you can't vote until you are 21"

Democrats would scream at the sky and probably break down in tears while shivering in their safe spaces.

This is identical to what the liberals are doing with the RIGHT to own guns. I'm not sure why there is any discussion about what "shall not be infringed" means. Does making a person jump through hoops or meet certain qualifications infringe on a person's rights? Did they do anything to loose those rights? Even if they have done something that people say makes them loose their right to own a firearm, I'm not sure that is even constitutional, as the right to bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

This "Shall not be infringed" isn't to be manipulated to say "well Johnny XXX can buy a gun, no one else can though, so citizens can still own firearms". No. It doesn't work that way. You can't cherry pick who and who can not own a gun and even if a felon, I'm not sure it is legal to restrict them from ownership. Do they not have the right to self defense? Please tell me why they don't?

When are we going to get someone in Congress to make this crystal clear to the loony left. Yes, gun killings are terrible, but you know what is even worse, gun killings by the government on mass scale.

It think the automatic firearms ban is illegal as well. These people who want to pick and choose what is allowed and what isn't are going to find themselves in a very bad place once we have said enough is enough, and then EVERYTHING is going to be available. People who have been told they can't own XYZ are going to find a way to make this happen and if the left doesn't accept it, it's going to end even worse. If they even tried to change the constitution it is crystal clear there would be a civil war and after that automatic weapons are going to seem like kids play b/c there's going to be 40mm grenades, 20/30mm AA weapons, RPG's etc, that's just a fact, because we've seen that in every country that has had a war within it's borders. Look at Kosovo, there are mountains of grenades there from 20 years ago that the moslem's in Sweden have been buying and using in Sweden (what a great idea to let those people in and allow no-go zones - time to militarize those areas... /rant).

We vote to make laws that apply to everybody. Just because a person doesn't have a high school diploma doesn't mean they shouldn't be represented in government. That goes for crazy and stupid people, too. We all get advocates.

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Jim Crow laws were state and local laws that enforced racial segregation in the Southern United States. All were enacted in the late 19th and early 20th centuries by white Democratic-dominated state legislatures after the Reconstruction period. The laws were enforced until 1965

originally posted by: dfnj2015
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This guy must have been think of you when he rolled this clip. Sad to see anyone dumb enough to trust their government enough to allow them to disarm you.

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I would Imagine Most of those Young Mental Midgets out there Failing a Test like that Big Time ............


So , You Wanna VOTE ?...hmm....

I'm tired of it, too.

Honestly if we started forcing people to pass a mental evaluation before voting it could be good- most of the sky screamers couldn't pass a proper one...

But in the same breath, they're the ones who would rig the test and make anyone who believes in the constitution automatically fail the evaluation- so we can't have such a stupid rule.

Just imagine if they actually pulled off confiscation- the criminals would still have guns and nobody would be armed to stop them


I say it's time we get some representation in congress and put these idiots in their place.

originally posted by: a325nt
I'm tired of it, too.

Honestly if we started forcing people to pass a mental evaluation before voting it could be good- most of the sky screamers couldn't pass a proper one...

But in the same breath, they're the ones who would rig the test and make anyone who believes in the constitution automatically fail the evaluation- so we can't have such a stupid rule.

Just imagine if they actually pulled off confiscation- the criminals would still have guns and nobody would be armed to stop them

I say it's time we get some representation in congress and put these idiots in their place.

I kind of like how they did it in Starship Troopers! Only those who served had the right to vote! Then again, I guess I am a bit biased on that because I already did my time..

Certainly something to think about though considering how our so called system of higher learning indoctrinates those dumb enough to go into a life time of debt to be brain washed think and treat our veterans?

originally posted by: a325nt
I'm tired of it, too.

Honestly if we started forcing people to pass a mental evaluation before voting it could be good- most of the sky screamers couldn't pass a proper one...

But in the same breath, they're the ones who would rig the test and make anyone who believes in the constitution automatically fail the evaluation- so we can't have such a stupid rule.

Just imagine if they actually pulled off confiscation- the criminals would still have guns and nobody would be armed to stop them

I say it's time we get some representation in congress and put these idiots in their place.

Think about it for a Nanosecond Dude , The Political , Economic , and Military Future of America in the Hands of These Kind of Useless Eaters . God Forbid in the U.S.A. !

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No offense intended, but of the ex military folks I know most of them are useless when it comes to critical thinking. Very useful for doing what they're told, and their "opinions" are generally just inherited.

That being said they do generally lean right and I've never met one that wouldn't fight for their rights, so I do get along with them.

I'm college educated, but not in debt for life over it because I'm not an idiot.
I enjoy my ability to vote, and I love my freedom. I don't trust anyone to speak for me, but unless I see enemy troops marching on my home land I'm not about to start shooting.

Well, when we live a reality where people are voting based on whom they hate the least rather than who they really want, doesn't it show to be a solid theory as to the need for voting reform.

Voting will be done on block chains in just a few short years, so what one wants the other gang to least have will start to fall by the waste side.

Getting caught up in stories like this just speaks to how one sided or the other people are.

Whatever kills identity politics within voting... enact it yesterday, PLEASE!

originally posted by: ttobban
Well, when we live a reality where people are voting based on whom they hate the least rather than who they really want, doesn't it show to be a solid theory as to the need for voting reform.

Voting will be done on block chains in just a few short years, so what one wants the other gang to least have will start to fall by the waste side.

Getting caught up in stories like this just speaks to how one sided or the other people are.

Whatever kills identity politics within voting... enact it yesterday, PLEASE!

Just Vote for God and Country . If you can not Identify with either of them then you are Totally Lost , move to Canada...

a reply to: seeker1963

How may I ask does this fit the scope of someone who views voting to be a duty, and not just a right?

I am fully on board with your theory, but viewing voting as a duty makes me learn just how little my vote is worth. I mean, I don't want things to go my way... I want the voting republic to decide. Sure, the quality of voting standards is horrible per my opinion, but I am only one of 300,000,000.

a reply to: Zanti Misfit

Agreed... my votes are to add more parties to federal campaign funding distributions. Once the republic achieves a 5% populace vote for a 3rd party, the campaigns going forward will include 3rd party distribution.

My vote goes to the most popular 3rd party candidate... simply to battle the vote that are bias towards Red/Blue. Voting for me is easy since I keep on a foundation. The need for voting reform is for the people who vote a particular color to appease a faction of life outside the campaign. Where I live, it's not uncommon for people to just vote the same color to keep family disputes at bay.

I am thankful that block chain is here... it will fix most voting dilemmas we live through today. Urging humans away from the Red/Blue tyranny is too far gone at this point in time.

***Added*** The craziness Americans get to live through is a miracle and a blessing to begin with. I will trade my votes winning for a chance to vote any day of the week... without even blinking. Moving away from the U.S. would serve as a cowardly move. Those that want laws changed to suit their feelings/beliefs should move to Canada... not the other way around. All the other countries in the world already allow for their government to choose for them... they should join them instead of try to beat down what Americans built.

If the republicans passed or even proposed a law all of the following:
"You can not vote unless you go through a background check"
"you can't vote until you have a mental evaluation"
"you can't vote if you don't have a certain level of education" (let's say a high school degree)
"you can't vote until you are 21"

Add :
Dead folks cant vote
Illegals cannot vote(which is already the law)

And , there would be NO liberal Democratic voters

If people needed a mental evaluation to vote, the only voters allowed to vote would be the middle, those who take politics personally are nuts, we should be focusing on our own lives and enjoying the little time we have after working all day. I know, half the people here posting are at work. So they are not wasting their off time anyway.

originally posted by: DigginFoTroof
If the republicans passed or even proposed a law all of the following:
"You can not vote unless you go through a background check"
"you can't vote until you have a mental evaluation"
"you can't vote if you don't have a certain level of education" (let's say a high school degree)
"you can't vote until you are 21"

I say we should do this. Republicans would fail the mental evaluation and let us up the ante by by including in the education part, basic science questions...watch them fail...LMAO

Should also include a morality clause another area they would fail.

Mark my word, in less than 5 years it is going to be possible to print the metal to make most all the parts of a gun and the parts that can't be printed (should be stronger and cast and or machined), well these will become very easy to make as well with custom made part molds with cast metals. I have experience in all of these technologies and I know what is possible and what's coming down the road. Prices will even be very reasonable where a few guys could afford the equipment to make as many guns as they want - the only cost would be the metal powder and that has been coming down in cost almost by magnitudes as laser metal sintering has become more prevalent.

On top of this it will be possible to create much of the parts of guns like the AR out of some VERY durable, impact resistant, carbon fiber reinforced plastics, which makes it lighter and stronger than most polymers used for the last 30+ years - all on 3D printers!

Even the barrel will be a part that can be mad with access to some old metal working equipment (a very nice but old - 50-70+ yr old lathes can be had for as low as $200 and with time, dedication and some TLC, you have a shop that can make products like this,

Even if it comes down to limiting bullets, that issues is being solved as we speak. I have a design that will clean 25-30 gallons of separate 25 different calibers of brass cartridges as well as prep them for reloading. No I just need to find investors or enough individuals to make this happen. Even making the bullets isn't difficult and the overall cost of these finished rounds from a process like this is about 20-40% of retail prices while on sale. I'm talking about quantities of 1/4 - 1/2 million rounds ( a week!) being processed this way with little human intervention.

This process isn't that difficult and it could be copied in every gun community nation wide so we don't have to rely on the big companies to be there to supply our products. It also eliminates the sales tax and any hidden taxes that are already there or are in the works.

Imagine if 2-30 processors like this popped up in every state (larger states like Cali, NY, FL, PA, Illinois, Michigan are all states that have high populations where many "clubs" such as this would/will (most likely) emerge.

These people (Dems) are fighting a loosing war. I am amazed when I talk to a liberal and explain to them the facts, they are stunned and they never thought that they might have been lied to. I've even seen some democrats become life long NRA members after this enlightenment.

If anyone is interested in what I was talking about above, message me, especially if you are looking to build something similar or even a smaller or larger scale.

I totally agree. This whole idea about lowering the voting age to 16. Everyone knows it only benefits the dems (sure there are conservatives at that age group, but my observation is most are liberals & "big hearted" because they haven't had enough experience to to make the right choice. I'm not sure I voted at 18 b/c I didn't know enough to vote.

i'd like to see what Beta O'dork would say about the maturity and intelligence level of himself at 16. Did he make the wisest of decisions or did he do some pretty stupid stuff. IIRC he had arrests and even bad DUI's later in life. Would Beta allow a group of all 16 year olds (you know there are going to be 13-15yr olds sneaking into the election to vote for the person giving away the most free junk. So would Beta be happy with all his policies being set by 16 year olds, like international politics, when to start wars, etc

IDK abou tthat. There are some good reasons to take politics seriously. Use the Civil rights movement as an example.Being involved and and pushing for rights that protect ones' self and their "group", is a natural and healthy thing. When you make politics you sole role in life, then it is a little out of hand (unelss u r a politician), but when they are talking about issues that effect you like banning abortion, banning guns, banning hamburger/cows/cow farts,etc and if it looks like it might be past, then people NEED to stand up for what they believe in.

Unless you know exactly what a person is thinking and what they have been through you should not judge how involved in politics they are.