UK denies asylum to Iranian convert to Christianity, saying the religion is not 'peaceful'

Islamic agenda??? Since when are Christian deemed too Violent?? This precedent is alarming because now Christians are being legally denied asylum based on religion but when Islamic refugees apply its OK because War? ??? This is not supposed to be a SHARIA LAW Country this determination is exactly that Sharia Law applied to immigration policy in the UK looks like....

www.foxnews.com...

The U.K. Home Office, which oversees immigration and passports, among other things, sent the Iranian national a letter that said the book of Revelations is “filled with imagery of revenge, destruction, death and violence,”

Thoughts???

a reply to: TheJesuit

I can find nothing on this story except on Fox News. I'm English and there's nothing about this here. There is news from 2015 that iranians were converting to Christianity in order to claim asylum and were being asked to recite the 10 commandments at interview. That's all I can find

a reply to: TheJesuit

It surprises me that nobody can see what's going on with this mass migration push. I worry that when people finally wake up to it, it will be too late.

It's already waaay to late this is a generational Islamic global caliphate agenda time to accomplishment doesn't really factor but take a look 50-100 years from now it'll be extremely apparent 20/20 hindsight historically speaking.

a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport

Mmmm maybe your google searches are getting censored if you weren't able to find this, it was first on the list.

The Times.co.uk - Home Office cites Bible to deny asylum

Anyway, seems everything has turned on its head upside down on purpose there. Islam peaceful, Christianity violent. I'm beginning to think these people are purposely engineering a civil war. Good thing I don't live there because bobbies would most likely visit my door for this comment.

a reply to: TheJesuit

Since when are Christian deemed too Violent??

Throughout most of their history.

But NOT in modern times.
So this is weird.



Edit:I just realized it was the uk that denied entrance and not iran.

a reply to: TheJesuit

sent the Iranian national a letter that said the book of Revelations is “filled with imagery of revenge, destruction, death and violence

It is. Havn't you read it?

Revelations is only hopeful if the reader is a chistain. To anyone else it sounds very different.

Christians (and other non muslim religions), are exactly the ones who should be being brought in to western nations as refugees. any non muslim in a muslim controlled county IS in danger from their governments and populations. they are the real refugees due to the danger from the religion of violence and hate we know as islam. they should certainly be given priority over people saying they are refugees because they are poor. or those fleeing war, who should be helping fight that war to make their homeland better.

You only hear one side of the argument in this type of thing, so we don't know what he put down in his asylum application.

We know that people put all sorts - whether they mean it or not - so for example if you don't want to go back to an intolerant Islamic country (like Iran) you say you have left Islam, or are gay. In that way if you are returned you may end up in an Islamic court who would execute you for apostasy, or homosexuality.

I am sure there are lots of genuine asylum seekers who are in fear for their life when they left, but there are probably just as many who fear being returned for what they have said when they burned their bridges and applied for asylum. Someone I used to know worked in immigration (as a solicitor) and he said that most people are lying through their teeth about their reasons and e.g. their age, their country of origin, their wealth, their profession, their family circumstances, their UK contacts, their route to the UK etc...

a reply to: Gin

Thanks found it now must have searched the wrong phrase but all sites except 2 are pay sites now...damn UK newspapers!

However, according to Archbishop Crammer what it actually states is they refused on the grounds that they didn't believe the Iranian's conversion as he stated "Christianity was the true religion of peace" whereas the Home Office said that wasn't true and quoted various excerpts from the OT that proved otherwise. They then said it was the Iranian's lack of basic knowledge of the bible that convinced them he was not a true convert, despite the fact that the people interviewing him had no religious knowledge or expertise, he was still rejected. But its ok the Home Office have said this incident is not indicative of anti Christian sentiment and that staff would get more training....phew! that's ok then. A downright stupid and clearly biased method of assessment. I hope his Appeal to the Archbishops & Church works for him

a reply to: paraphi

Whilst I agree with your assessment of the lengths some would lie to get into the UK did you not understand this part?


www.independent.co.uk...

Legal expert Conor James McKinney, deputy editor of website Free Movement, said the case was a symptom of the Home Office’s tendency to “come up with any reason they can to refuse asylum”.

“You can see from the text of the letter that the writer is trying to pick holes in the asylum seeker’s account of their conversion to Christianity and using the Bible verses as a tool to do that,” he said


The Home Office is notorious for coming up with any reason they can to refuse asylum and this looks like a particularly creative example, but not necessarily a systemic outbreak of anti-Christian sentiment in the department.”


Sarah Teather, director of the Jesuit Refugee Service (JRS) in the UK, said the case was a “particularly outrageous example of the reckless and facetious approach of the Home Office to determining life and death asylum cases”.


She said JRS regularly encountered cases where asylum had been refused on “spurious grounds”, adding: “Some of these cases require more legal knowledge to recognise than this bizarre misquoting of the Bible, but as this instance gains public attention, we need to remember it reflects a systematic problem and a deeper mindset of disbelief, and is not just an anomaly that can be explained away.”

I see that the Islamification of Europe rolls on unabated. It will take more than 1 overzealous Home Office worker to buck the trend.

Get back to me when White Brit "infidels" are allowed back into certain areas of Birminmgham

www.nytimes.com...

deadly attack outside Parliament last week, remains a puzzle to investigators working on how, why and when he was radicalized.

But one aspect is familiar: He had a connection to Birmingham, having moved almost a year ago to this city of 1.1 million, where more than than one in five residents declare Islam as their religion.


Members of Birmingham’s Muslim communities acknowledged the linkage between their city and Islamist extremism, which many attribute to poverty and drug abuse that make youths vulnerable to jihadist recruiters who operate like gangs. But Muslims in Birmingham also deeply resent what they see as a grossly unfair reputation, countering that most residents are proud and law-abiding.

First, it is the Book of "Revelation", singular. Love it when people comment on the Book's contents, but, can't even get the title right.

Second, it describes violence, revenge and destruction, it doesn't condone it.

Third, it seems the real issue they were trying to use as an excuse was that the Asylum Seeker wasn't familiar with the Book of Revelation, therefore, he must be a phony Christian (In their eyes).

Talk about looking for excuses to deny asylum.

Have they read the Quran?

originally posted by: Artemis12
a reply to: TheJesuit

It surprises me that nobody can see what's going on with this mass migration push. I worry that when people finally wake up to it, it will be too late.

I worry about people whom believe this rubbish at face value ...

Is that irony....

a reply to: TheJesuit

Whats crazy is ISIS was purging the last remaining Christian minorities and other non Muslims from Syria and Iraq. I'm honestly not surprised at all.

Plus if you convert from Islam in a majority Islamic country you basically have a bounty on your head if anyone finds out. They make sure no one even thinks about switching sides

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: TheJesuit

sent the Iranian national a letter that said the book of Revelations is “filled with imagery of revenge, destruction, death and violence

It is. Havn't you read it?

Revelations is only hopeful if the reader is a chistain. To anyone else it sounds very different.

The quoran is only hopeful if the reader is Muslim. To everyone else it sounds very different. Might be because the quoran is violent and non-muslims are beheaded, killed, raped, enslaved, etc. Yeah no violence there lol. Thing about Christians, most have reformed to acceptance and non-violence. Maybe 15% of Muslims have embraced intolerance and violence, because quoran. Just remember, 15% of a billion is 150 million, that's a lot of fanatical nutbar crazies!

Your argument is a fail.

Cheers - Dave

I think that there are some deceivers in the world, many here in the USA, that are instigating things between our citizen Christians and the Muslims. They want to discredit Christians as being evil. This is being spread by athiests, but beware athiests, Muslims hate Athiests more than they dislike Christians. Muslims also are against gays and transgender people and the Liberals trying to bring the Muslims here must actually be sabotaging the future of the gay and transgender people.

This is what I am seeing, Christians usually accept gay people but do not promote being gay as good. Muslims would target a gay bar for destruction. I think the Atheists improperly feel they are safe if they start conflict all over between religions. This will backfire eventually as the Muslims and Christians decide to get together and target atheists. I have known pretty many atheists in my life, they think they are smarter than they really are, in fact, they tend to have more book knowledge and less wisdom.

Maybe he should CC the Queen on the next application, seeing as how the Monarchy is backed by the Pope.............

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Artemis12
a reply to: TheJesuit

It surprises me that nobody can see what's going on with this mass migration push. I worry that when people finally wake up to it, it will be too late.

I worry about people whom believe this rubbish at face value ...

Is that irony....

Are you Muslim and applying taqqiya or simply willfully ignorant of the realty of population replacement? By the time the children of the willfully ignorant wake up, it will all be over. They will live in a world with 21st century tech, surveillance and weapons operating with dark ages barbaric laws and practices. I hope your daughters will enjoy being property.

Cheers - Dave

a reply to: JDmOKI
Ah but he's not in an Islamic country (well not yet), he's in the UK. Now think along the lines of a little taqiyya. may be he's a Islamic fundamentalist, A zero to get asylum. So he applies a little taqiyya, lies by pretending to have converted. Get's asylum then when in changes back to Islam. His Islamic brothers would welcome him with open arms for having deceived the infidel.

originally posted by: TheJesuit
This is not supposed to be a SHARIA LAW Country this determination is exactly that Sharia Law applied to immigration policy in the UK looks like....

Did you know that SHARIA in Arabic means 'Law'? So you're basically saying Law law. Just sayin'