Death... What is it do die?

The vast majority could describe death as the cessation of life.

That said, the laws of thermodynamics means that death is just the transference of energy. Said energy can't be created or destroyed.

What is death?

I've died twice. Death does not supersede that law.

a reply to: EternalSolace

What parts of your body are energy?
The cessation of flesh to transition back to base materials. A meal to power insects. Does that mean you’re transitioned to an insect?
Is your mind one single entity? Or is it a collection of impulses, needs and desires?
A single entity might be harder to “dissipate” but if your mind is a collective of smaller pieces then it would be easier to scatter the whole.

Maybe death is like a star exploding. Your consciousness no longer anchored to your body it expands rapidly outward where it joins the surrounding static.

Or you could end up haunting a rotting mansion, forever moaning about the new flooring to a group of divorcees who don’t realize they still love each other.

Man, I hope it’s not that one.

a reply to: EternalSolace

What is death?

Death is nature's way of saying, hey...you're not alive anymore!!

Energy wants to be free. Our brain and body keeps it in the same way a battery traps energy for later use. if you smash a fully charged battery, where does that energy go??

Follow the money.........oh wait, wrong answer.




I think when we can wrap our head around the Soul/Spirit part then we will grasp that the physical and the spiritual exist in separate realities, and the spiritual not bound by physical limitations.

Meaning Entropy.........
In thermodynamics, entropy is a measure of the number of specific realizations or microstates that may realize a thermodynamic system in a defined state specified by macroscopic variables. Most understand entropy as a measure of molecular disorder within a macroscopic system. The second law of thermodynamics states that an isolated system's entropy never decreases.

a reply to: EternalSolace

Oddly enough death is life’s way of sustaining itself. We are programmed to die for a reason.

Only the ego or the avatar dies, that which animates us moves on.

I think you just cease to exist... there is no after life, heaven or hell.

You just don't exist anymore than you did before you were born...

We're all just expressions and experiences of the same consciousness, so death is as much of an illusion as everything else.

originally posted by: Edumakated
I think you just cease to exist... there is no after life, heaven or hell.

You just don't exist anymore than you did before you were born...

If that were true then it's just a matter of time before the information in the brain can be transferred to a computer and humans will live for ever. Personally, I do not believe that the information contained in our 'memory' is the sum total of who we are.

a reply to: EternalSolace

Ive died once and they brought me back...and there's a good description for life and death I got from a Zen Buddhist monk.

He threw a solid glass marble against a brick wall, shattering it into millions of tiny pieces...so where did the marble go?

Easy I thought, "It's gone forever, destroyed"! He laughed, smiled and shook his head "No!"

"The marble isn't gone...only changed into a zillion pieces...yet it is still there, though now in a different form...yet remains a marble".

When we die...we go nowhere with our energy/essence/soul...it just changes into something else.

a reply to: UKTruth

Yes.

No actual thing ever lived.... so no thing will die.

a reply to: EternalSolace

2nd analogy, same Buddhist monk:

A man spent decades and years searching out every hermit, priest, guru, holy man, shaman, rabbi, Iman...and finally climbed the highest mountain to seek counsel from the last one he could find about the "meaning of life".

The guru opened his eyes from meditation and smiled saying "You answered your own question! The meaning for life...is to live"!

Don't waste your lives friends searching...life is short, eternity-forever.

I believe death is an awakening from the temporary dream we call life. Our spirits are eternal. Imo, what we witness in our dreams is closer to reality & what we perceive as reality is only a temporary dream.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Edumakated
I think you just cease to exist... there is no after life, heaven or hell.

You just don't exist anymore than you did before you were born...

If that were true then it's just a matter of time before the information in the brain can be transferred to a computer and humans will live for ever. Personally, I do not believe that the information contained in our 'memory' is the sum total of who we are.

I do believe that science / tech will figure out how to download our memories and knowledge. However, that is completely different from our character, personalities, and the other things that make us who we are as individuals.... i.e., our souls. if tech figures that out then that opens up a whole new can of worms.

I have no memory or knowledge of life prior to being born. I think my earliest memory is maybe when I was like 2 or 3 years old. We wake up one day and we just "exist" and start living life. I figure in the same way when we die, we just don't exist anymore. Gone. There is nothing.

Sure, we can wax poetically about energy transferring, etc. Some of which may be true. however, YOU as an individual cease to exist.

Maybe there is a realm where we remain just on the outside of consciousness which is why people believe in ghosts. Who knows.

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Edumakated
I think you just cease to exist... there is no after life, heaven or hell.

You just don't exist anymore than you did before you were born...

If that were true then it's just a matter of time before the information in the brain can be transferred to a computer and humans will live for ever. Personally, I do not believe that the information contained in our 'memory' is the sum total of who we are.

I do believe that science / tech will figure out how to download our memories and knowledge. However, that is completely different from our character, personalities, and the other things that make us who we are as individuals.... i.e., our souls. if tech figures that out then that opens up a whole new can of worms.

I have no memory or knowledge of life prior to being born. I think my earliest memory is maybe when I was like 2 or 3 years old. We wake up one day and we just "exist" and start living life. I figure in the same way when we die, we just don't exist anymore. Gone. There is nothing.

Sure, we can wax poetically about energy transferring, etc. Some of which may be true. however, YOU as an individual cease to exist.

Maybe there is a realm where we remain just on the outside of consciousness which is why people believe in ghosts. Who knows.

You misunderstood my point - if we just cease to exist at death then there can be no such thing as a soul, or character, personality that is separate from the information contained in the brain. If what is stored in the brain is the very essence of who were are then a computer will be able to capture, store and persist everything about us, including the 'soul'.

If on the other hand what makes us who we are is not a simple sum total of what our brain has stored then we can't possibly cease to exist when our bodies are no more.

It's natural to be scared of death, but on the other hand I think I will also be excited to learn what lies beyond when my time comes.

a reply to: EternalSolace

This argument keeps getting wheeled out as evidence that we don't die. But it means just the opposite. If a building is destroyed, it's no consolation that the individual building blocks remain in existence. The building itself is gone.

originally posted by: Edumakated
I think you just cease to exist... there is no after life, heaven or hell.

You just don't exist anymore than you did before you were born...

So all these kids claiming past lives are just lying?

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a reply to: EternalSolace

Death is the only thing we can ever truly be sure will happen to us all from the start, we should take some comfort in the one certainty we really have. It's about the only thing we can ever really know is actually real when you begin to break it all down.
I also find it interesting that pretty much all of the various beliefs speak of being changed after death too, not just fields in science.

Yet, how many times do we change to become different people throughout our lives becoming totally different each time? Sometimes by choice, other times it is forced on us by circumstances beyond our control. Just like death, our lives are the same in that respect.

My take on it anyways and all that really does matter is how an individual can come to terms with their own mortality, we will never know until we know. Just like we never know who we will become tomorrow