Beyond Bigelow & BAASS, After AATIP and on To the Stars...

originally posted by: celltypespecific
a reply to: coursecatalog
I think Cometa2 was recently active on ATS...
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Not under that name at least.

You would think these people would return even just to gloat a little that they had the real goods and no one here believed them.

2007 was also when Zondo took over AATIP right?

a reply to: coursecatalog

Good point..yes it was formed in 2007.
You seem pretty well-informed and have done your homework.
My question is whats the end game.....
1. Will there be more videos.....

2. A glaring issue regarding the event that took place over the east coast was that they stated UAPs would be observed for days...meaning from the summer of 2014 to March 2015. This is a vast amount of time to collect DATA and study these UAPs......

3. The squadron that reported the gimbal event "red rippers" where not the only squandron deployed on the uss rooselvet...there should be more eyewitness....more pilots. This is a recent event...

4. The silence is DEAFENING from the AIR FORCE....not a word....nothing from them..this is strictly coming from the Navy.

This is very frustrating.... We are tax paying citizens....we paid for all this. Why can't the Pentagon simple come out and say " Zondo is a fraud....." "There is no UAP/UFO's go back to sleep"

But yet they let the NYTs Washington Post Politco make these dramatic claims...

a reply to: celltypespecific

This thread (and MM's previous thread) is a treasure trove of information. You should really go back and look.

As for your questions, you arrived here fully gung ho on TTSA and now you seem ready to drop them like a hot potato. Is there a happy medium?

a reply to: coursecatalog

No...I am "not ready to drop them like a hot potato". I am a CRITICAL THINKER.... I simply want DATA....
When you think about it...its a win win....
Either we have truly advanced gov. drones that apparently can break the rules of modern aviatoic principles...
or they are truly UAPs.....

All the young guns want is clarity...
Its pretty evident what TTSA is up to....they simply want to educate the mainstream about the existence of UAPs. If this is not there purpose I would love to be enlightened.

originally posted by: celltypespecific
a reply to: coursecatalog

Excellent points...I think this mystery is the heart of the matter....
Once again the videos were taken from a classified military server....
Someone recognized the significance of this video and wanted it out......

I think Cometa2 was recently active on ATS...
Now went I think of it... I am certain this website is heavily monitored by our intelligence apparatus foreign and domestic...
Info on this site is considered public/ open source data... in face all these post can be easily read/analyzed/ and classified by an artificial intelligence algorithm thats programmed to detect key words....or combination of key words.

a reply to: celltypespecific

lol was that meant to spark paranoia among hardened tin foil hatters?
Like that's something we all don't know and didn't discuss years before Snowden even went on his prom date.


So as they are watching and recording all (as you noted) none of us Z grade UFO-celeberitries/ deranged conspiracy theorists here have in our possession or have seen extended stolen defense force footage that has been whispered about, can the TTSA or sanctioned documentary makers say the same?
But you're on the right track!

Plenty of people who ARE currently 'in the know' and may have seen this stolen footage, A-list Twitteroligists who do NOT have Clearance or are in possession of or have seen any Navy classified videos or radar reports not released officially to public domain after declassification are going to no doubt going to be visited by an alphabet agency and people WILL be going to prison.

This may not happen now, but it WILL happen when this spook sanctioned social experiment ends.

All these A list insiders and their Neuro Squads and "ex spooks" are recorded and spied on more than any of us D listers here. Every call, every conversation. I would keep my cell phone in the microwave if I was them....

Now, hows your paranoia?


Harry Reid is not going to be alive forever to protect and grease palms and provide "official" documentation.
The protective connection to DC will not be forever.
Bigelow is not involved in TTSA financially (edit ed in note), that is crucial, and admittedly, am still pondering why not. My first guess he is a competitor for Government grants and research....And because he has been given a grant he is under a NDA. Or he is years ahead of them.

I am always open to be wrong, this subject is fluid and everything changes.
But I am NOT wrong on classified information being out is a crime and anyone who has it, or has seen it, is complicit in some way and the prosecutors won't care how many albums you've sold, tv show or films you've made or secret covert ops you've been in.

When they went public they inadvertently opened themselves up to the possibility of the tables turning at the end of this spook program.


- TTSA imo is a spook program, perhaps a social experiment on mainstreaming UFOlogy, population psyche manipulation etc but the higher ups will close the doors again in time.

-Yes the NImitz footage is real imo.

-I like you mentioned they are recon drones, I am in agreement with my limited knowledge, though some sightings are from our own minds compliments of the trickster

-Yes the kid was likely German given his thread about his sighting in his German town. That said, he can manage to upload stolen govt classified video to a server, but created a thread asking how to load a you tube video..... go figure.

-They broke the law, and everyone who is handling the stolen footage extended and tactical optical, not the snippet publicly released should be concerned. It's my experience to trust no one in work/business, when higher ups say don't worry we have you covered, they don't and wont.

-Yes TFT and his accomplice ( no one is talking about) will be going to prison one day if they aren't already.
There is at least one more person other than TFT who had access to the many versions of the footage and nicked it.
Hmm what would this individuals name rhyme with I wonder *scratched beard*

I'm sure its around somewhere, but if it is...I wouldnt know where to begin looking for it. There is only one other individual that made copies of the data, I'm going to have to try and get ahold of him to see if its still w/ him. Other than that the data was wiped off all network drives about a few hours after the ufo sighting. Even if you dont see the video I had my hands on, I accurately described it and you should be able to envision what it is that I hold true.

If anyone said to me, I have the extended footage or the tactical optical footage I would say NO THANK YOU keep it away from me. But for some it is alluring to be an 'insider' it's how secret societies have always worked. Human nature is predictable.

Start from 50:28 minutes, saying "I haven't seen this footage" doesn't mean the Feds wont look into if you have or if you do have ever had the footage.
I genuinely worry that some of these people from the leaker to some of the TTSA crew and the Vegas gang have got ahead of themselves messing around and getting their hands on classified documents and footage, they will get their # raided one day and their stuff will be confiscated



Part of this reply is for Celtic and part for everyone, I was freestyling and couldn't stop lol.

originally posted by: celltypespecific

Its pretty evident what TTSA is up to....they simply want to educate the mainstream about the existence of UAPs. If this is not there purpose I would love to be enlightened.

It is indeed evident that TTSA want to 'educate' the mainstream about the existence of UAPs. The Big Question is: Why? The ends, whatever they are, may not necessarily justify the initial 'alien' means.

Zondo can lie about the 1952 sightings, and Chris Mellon can make goofy presentations about 'real' UFOs whilst standing in front of a picture of a confirmed party balloon... etc... but enough consumers will keep on coming, unquestioningly.

Until we find out the WHY, we need to keep our Spidey senses attuned to their antics in the interim. And, as others have advised, check up on the past history of some of these TTSA members - you'll find it a true eye-opener.

a reply to: zazzafrazz

Excellent points Zazza....let me think about it....
by the way Bigalow is connected to TTSA indirectly by Hal Putoff who worked for BASS...
ATIP/AWWAS awarded that one contract to BASS.

a reply to: ConfusedBrit

ConfusedBrit...what are your thoughts as to the Why...?

Why do you think TTSA is doing this...?

a reply to: zazzafrazz

I really don't know TTSA's grand plan...
However, the congressional angle is interesting....now that they have debriefed several senators "responsible for national security" and the pilots have briefed congressional reps.
Lets hope there is documentation or a way to tract this.

Thefinaltheory mystery is so intriguing....I still can't believe someone literally placed turly "ABOVE TOP SECRET" documents on the this site!!!!!!! Unbelievable.....

a reply to: celltypespecific

Thefinaltheory mystery is so intriguing....I still can't believe someone literally placed turly "ABOVE TOP SECRET" documents on the this site!!!!!!! Unbelievable.....

Yes it does seem to intrigue you.

Thefinaltheory mystery is so intriguing....I still can't believe someone literally placed turly "ABOVE TOP SECRET" documents on the this site!!!!!!! Unbelievable.....

What exactly are you guys referring to with this final theory rap?

a reply to: Willtell



TFT is the ATS member who illegally copied and stole then leaked the Nimitz footage back in 07 that started this whole "disclosure" claim that TTS alluded was there coup in 2017 .
www.abovetopsecret.com...

As a by the way.... possibly has a nickname The Red or he/she has red hair as their mood is still here as El Russo. just noticed that.

originally posted by: celltypespecific
a reply to: zazzafrazz

Excellent points Zazza....let me think about it....
by the way Bigalow is connected to TTSA indirectly by Hal Putoff who worked for BASS...
ATIP/AWWAS awarded that one contract to BASS.

This was already established on the first page of the thread.

One of the scientists who helped figure it out is a physicist named Dr. Hal Puthoff. He wrote the proposal that helped Bigelow land the contract to study UFOs...

Link

Maybe you need to read it again?

As for TFT and the video and other things. Well I have a theory on that one. You lot don't have a need to know. I want it to be right and you lot don't need to hear it right now.

Let's play these stooges at their own game hey?

a reply to: mirageman

As for TFT and the video and other things. Well I have a theory on that one. You lot don't have a need to know. I want it to be right and you lot don't need to hear it right now.

Oh no you didn't!

a reply to: zazzafrazz

Oh no you didn't!

This is not a pantomime. Is it?

originally posted by: celltypespecific

by the way Bigalow is connected to TTSA indirectly by Hal Putoff who worked for BASS...
ATIP/AWWAS awarded that one contract to BASS.

There's more connections between Bigelow and TTSA than you seem to have dug up yet.

On one hand I think you are sincere and just excited about possibilities, on the other it sometimes comes across like you might have been sent here to cheerlead for TTSA.

I'm going with the former---I think there's more evidence for that at this point.

This is a serious question, Cell: How long have you been interested in "ufology?" Are you researching in a focused manner or just catching bits here and there?

a reply to: The GUT

He was replying to me, I said I couldn't work out why Bigelow wasn't involved, I meant financially. Sozz m'dear.

a reply to: mirageman

I'm no Home and Away star!

The whole thing is theatrical entertainment my dear. The architypes are having their fun.

a reply to: ConfusedBrit

Zondo can lie about the 1952 sightings, and Chris Mellon can make goofy presentations about 'real' UFOs whilst standing in front of a picture of a confirmed party balloon... etc... but enough consumers will keep on coming, unquestioningly.

I think its all about the target audience....they are not trying to coopt other UFologist or anyone with a remote historical background on the subject area....

TTSA is the birth of a new generation/era of ufology....
They are adding to the ufology lore..... "The Nimtz Encounters" "The GIMBAL Incidence" can't wait for episode six they will mostly like drop a bombshell....

Another article is in the works from the NYT/Politico...

a reply to: Willtell

Willtell someone LEAKED a CLASSIFIED literally ABOVETOPSECRET document on this site back in 2007. The leaker went by the tag Thefinaltheory.

Additionally there is a book called The Final Theory that deals with anti-gravity.