Shamima Begum Who Left The UK To Join ISIS Is To Be Stripped Of Her U.K. Citizenship

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter

originally posted by: midicon

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
a reply to: ScepticScot

She' over there on Jihad in a recognised sovereign state and is part of a genocidal group targeting Yazidis, Christians, alawhtyes etc and you think she shouldn't be tried in the locality? Total nonsense

Under normal circumstance she'd be handed over to the Syrian authorities who would then decide on her fate.

If you were a Syrian who had seen there country descend into hell on Earth by being invaded by foreign Jihadis aided in many cases by western and Sunni governments including our own and had your family murdered in the most medieval ways you might see it from another angle

Problem is which 'Syrian' are you talking about. Those Syrians who are against Assad or the Syrians who support him?

I can see it from as many angles as you! Anyway here is her response

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: Qboneq
I knew it.

She already had problems with her “identity” desperate to find and accept one, now these bozos want to push her “further down” into the abyss?


Bunch of stupid kids ruling the U.K now..?

Bwaaaaah haaaaaa haaaaa haaaaa!!!!
Best post ever.

Lol…
I’ve posted my own opinion to a bunch of ignorant people mostly (trumpeters)….
Not going to stop there…..

Again….!

You posters never have been refugees... Nor immigrants so it could not possibly expecting you trolls will ever understand how it feels to be one “spare me your usual B.S”.

As I’ve said many times, she “along” with many others have problem with their “identity” and any JERKS ”in this case Muslim jihadists could be Christian or even local pimps” will use their “weakness” to their advantages, simple as that. Male or female alike “younger the better” since they are fresh and inexperienced!

Wake up people….

Ps…

Of course,I personally “gives a rat ass if you don’t”; just telling you ignorant for things to come….. Very soon.



Keep laughing….

a reply to: Flavian

She left to go join ISIS. What did she think they were? Just because as a woman she was not allowed to join in the actual attacks doesn't mean that wasn't her intent upon joining. Woman aid the cause by being wives and sex slaves. She was giving aid and comfort and would have fought in other ways had it been allowed.

She made her allegiance clear when she joined.

a reply to: Flavian

Well of course they didn't!

She wasn't behaving like a properly obedient and subservient Muslim girl when she ran off now was she?

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Flavian

She left to go join ISIS.

She didn't. She went to go live in the Islamic Caliphate. After being groomed into believing their BS. There is ZERO evidence for her having committed any actual crimes but there is loads of evidence of her abhorrent views. So, again, she has lost citizenship over her views, not her actions as they were not illegal.

a reply to: Qboneq

This is why it used to be a policy to assimilate. There was this old saying -- When in Rome, do as the Romans do. There used to be a thing called the "melting pot" in the US.

However, we've been told those concepts are evil and outdated and that we should value "diversity" (the roots of which are found in the Latin for contradition and disagreement) which more or less means little colonies of people keeping to their own cultures and ways without embracing one overarching one that coheres and society.

And this is the result -- your identity crises that prompt kids to run off to fight for ISIS.

a reply to: Flavian

ISIS and the Islamic Caliphate were the same deal. They were the only Middle Eastern power hoisting that flag and now she's been hoisted on their petard.

originally posted by: midiconProblem is which 'Syrian' are you talking about. Those Syrians who are against Assad or the Syrians who support him?

I can see it from as many angles as you! Anyway here is her response

The Syrians who pay their taxes and once had a reasonable life who have seen their state ripped apart by foreigner invaders, this chick being one of them along with all the other British, Chechen, French, Indonesian mercenaries along with our British government who has trained many of the terrorists and supplied their weaponry

Very interesting video btw and as I go down to the shops in a minute to buy a couple of Star Bars I'm glad she's over there

a reply to: ketsuko

She comes across as an odious individual. I have no quarrel there. But she had committed no actual crimes.

She has lost her citizenship over her views, not any crimes. Lots of people, both here on ATS but in the wider world also, have some truly distasteful and abhorrent views - should they also lose their citizenship?

If the rule of law is not equal, then what is the point of it?

a reply to: ufoorbhunter

That's a real issue then as our government are so busy trying to overthrow Assad that they would never hand over such as she to the only legitimate authority in Syria.

a reply to: ScepticScot

Yeah you are a troll or very naive. You think she got punished without due course?

A passport is a contract that both sides agree on but you have to actually like the country you hold a citizenship in. If you don't, the contract is breached by you and the punishment is that it gets revoked. No need for a criminal court.
Because it tells you in the small print not to work against the country you hold a passport for.

Going to join our enemy No 1 and showing no remorse is quite a deal breaker and the contract is being ripped up.

IN our civilised world she can now go to court and have her side heard, that is unfortunately her right and she is doing this. Everything is exactly as it should be, no 'mob rule', no new laws for muslims, no racism, just as it is written down and everyone else seem to know apart from you who thinks we are going rogue and have it 'in for her'.

That's why you are naive. She is a danger to this country, hanging out with our enemy No1 [muslim terrorists that have killed many people here in Britain] and hence betraying her citizenship contract.

Do you go to court every time you get the sack from your job? Is that mob rule? Nope, is a consequence of you breaching your work contract by being constantly late or doing eff all. Your boss can sack you all day long if he wants to. If you think it's unfair, you can go to court. Same with citizenship.

See how it goes in the adult world?

a reply to: Hecate666

Nope, is a consequence of you breaching your work contract by being constantly late or doing eff all. Your boss can sack you all day long if he wants to.

Not if you have been there for 2 years plus and until he has strictly followed his company's disciplinary procedure, he can't, unless it amounts to gross misconduct.

Contract law does not really apply here.

a reply to: Antipathy17

So, should she change her name to Shamima Begon? Sorry

originally posted by: Hecate666
a reply to: ScepticScot

Yeah you are a troll or very naive. You think she got punished without due course?

A passport is a contract that both sides agree on but you have to actually like the country you hold a citizenship in. If you don't, the contract is breached by you and the punishment is that it gets revoked. No need for a criminal court.
Because it tells you in the small print not to work against the country you hold a passport for.

Going to join our enemy No 1 and showing no remorse is quite a deal breaker and the contract is being ripped up.

IN our civilised world she can now go to court and have her side heard, that is unfortunately her right and she is doing this. Everything is exactly as it should be, no 'mob rule', no new laws for muslims, no racism, just as it is written down and everyone else seem to know apart from you who thinks we are going rogue and have it 'in for her'.

That's why you are naive. She is a danger to this country, hanging out with our enemy No1 [muslim terrorists that have killed many people here in Britain] and hence betraying her citizenship contract.

Do you go to court every time you get the sack from your job? Is that mob rule? Nope, is a consequence of you breaching your work contract by being constantly late or doing eff all. Your boss can sack you all day long if he wants to. If you think it's unfair, you can go to court. Same with citizenship.

See how it goes in the adult world?

She is getting punished without due course as this is being done at the discretion of the home Secretary. You don't normally have to appeal without being convicted of anything.

Citizenship and passports are 2 separate things.

Citizenship is also nothing like a employment contract.

Maybe you are entirely happy that a politician can decide that you are no longer a citizen of the country you are born in. In the 'adult world' many of us have deep concerns about the potential consequences of that.

If she has broken laws such as supporting terrorism then she should be tried as such.

a reply to: ScepticScot

No one cares.

The majority of the country don't give a # about this bitch.

Only you and minority of bleeding hearts care, give it up.

We don't want her back.

a reply to: ScepticScot

No laws have been broken and no due process denied by the action of revoking the human garbage's citizenship.
So just stop with the nonsense.
We 've heard you. You place this terrorist above the lives of British people and are willing to risk the death of more innocent people. No need to keep banging on about your wholly inapproprite views.

originally posted by: UKTruth
a reply to: ScepticScot

No laws have been broken and no due process denied by the action of revoking the human garbage's citizenship.
So just stop with the nonsense.
We 've heard you. You place this terrorist above the lives of British people and are willing to risk the death of more innocent people. No need to keep banging on about your wholly inapproprite views.

Yup he and bleeding hearts like him are exactly why we cant risk having that traitorous pig back.

They would get her a light sentence and have her out leeching off the state within a few years if not months.

originally posted by: ApacheHelicopetr
a reply to: ScepticScot

No one cares.

The majority of the country don't give a # about this bitch.

Only you and minority of bleeding hearts care, give it up.

We don't want her back.

There is fairly extensive list of people who the majority of the UK don't want here, but that isn't the basis for deciding citizenship.

It also isn't a ledt/right issue as a few conservative party MPs have criticized the decision.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: ApacheHelicopetr
a reply to: ScepticScot

No one cares.

The majority of the country don't give a # about this bitch.

Only you and minority of bleeding hearts care, give it up.

We don't want her back.

There is fairly extensive list of people who the majority of the UK don't want here, but that isn't the basis for deciding citizenship.

It also isn't a ledt/right issue as a few conservative party MPs have criticized the decision.

Dont care about left or right.

I just care about stopping enemy's of the state getting a free pass.

a reply to: ketsuko




Jesus..

What the hell are you talking about..?

She is a child of “immigrant” parents…!! ”IMMIGRANTS” to accent it, she has NO identity for “HERSELF”. Nothing she can “compare herself to with”, that is the “identity” she was and still is looking for…

Babbling to me about “when in Rome, act like Roman”?....Bull#….!



I am with her, “although not her decisions”. Like I said it before, she needs HELP. Not a stupid judgements ….