Starbucks CEO: "It’s Time to Disrupt the Two-Party System"

a reply to: projectvxn

Uh, no, revenge politics is a result of the deep divisions, not the cause of them.

The causes run much, much, deeper and arise out of cultural differences, different belief systems, racial and religious hatreds. Revenge politics and tribal/identity politics is what you get when one or more tribes refuses to be ruled over by one or more of the other tribes.

Theres only one solution at this point and the dissolution of the USSR is the guide. Time for a US version of Brexit!

Let me tell you what a third party candidate will do.

A libertarian type candidate will get a Democrat elected president.

A socialist type candidate will get a Republican elected president.

a reply to: Bluntone22

Said every dem/rebub shill....since .....ever.

a reply to: lakenheath24

Some of us remember ross Perot getting bill Clinton elected.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
Let me tell you what a third party candidate will do.

A libertarian type candidate will get a Democrat elected president.

A socialist type candidate will get a Republican elected president.

The Dems are running on a socialist platform... I think a true moderate would potentially get the Republicans elected as scores of "leans left" Dems would flee the far left extremism that has besieged the Democratic Party, splitting that side's votes in half.

Democrats vote Democrat. No matter what they say or how god awful the candidate is. They voted Hillary!! I have never seen a worse candidate. Except maybe John Mccain.

A third party = Republicans lose. Look at how slick Willie got into the oval office.

I dunno i think Shultz will have a good chance at beating Pence and Booker.........

a reply to: Bluntone22

And some of us Perot voters remember thinking this will get a third party going.....not realizing there are to many homers out there that cant think for themselves.

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

I'm all for disrupting the two party system. It has severely broken the USA. We constantly have one party in power and the other one obstructing. I'd prefer that everyone just register as independents and we have no parties. Just one round of primaries to narrow the field down to 3-5 candidates, then the main election.

What the heck is a political party these days anyway. Who can say they 100% agree with their parties platform? Who evens knows what that platform is? Not just the false platform that they use to get votes, but the real platform shown by their actions (like democrats vocally support strong border security, but their actions are the opposite).

If there were no parties then each representative or senator would have to judge every vote they make based on supporting their constituents, no a stupid vote for what the party leader wants every fricken time.

For me personally, as an independent, the current democratic leaders actions will never have me vote democrat again unless they perhaps move back to being pro-american in a decade or two (and if I believe what they say which is unlikely). So I'm left with voting republican where I align with them on perhaps 60% of the issues. Both current parties have failed us over the past 30 years.

Still I agree with some of the others that President Trump has done a fantastic job and refreshingly is doing what he promised on the campaign trail. I haven't seen any president keep promises like this in my life, so he'll get my vote in 2020. I voted for Obama in 2008 because he said he would change the tax code so that companies would have incentive to hire american workers, he never touched the subject in his 8 years and hurt the country more than helped it.

a reply to: lakenheath24

That was the first election I was able to vote in.
I also voted for perot.

And like you, I didnt realise how my vote could effect the election in that way.

Until the people are truly ready to wake up and see what's going on, a third party will not win but it will determine the winner.

Starbucks CEO is a dem thru and thru, or maybe just evil (outspoken Hillary supporter). This would be charade with one point only, to take Trumps moderate base votes and throw them away as independent votes, thus giving strength to the democrat side.

originally posted by: lakenheath24
a reply to: Bluntone22

And some of us Perot voters remember thinking this will get a third party going.....not realizing there are to many homers out there that cant think for themselves.

It also had something to do with Perot announcing he was dropping out after his poll numbers started showing he had a legit shot, then crawling back in because he didn't anticipate the outrage over him quitting. Perot screwed both Perot and the country by ensuring Clinton would beat Bush.

a reply to: Bluntone22

So might as well NEVER vote! Lol

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Clinton hardly screwed the country. Balanced budget....good foreign relations.....now Monica....she got screwed.

Problem is...peeps complain bout nobody to vote for...then an outsider turns up and .....well verybody starts hatin on them. We are mental.

originally posted by: lakenheath24
a reply to: Bluntone22

So might as well NEVER vote! Lol

Sometimes I do feel that way.
Fortunately I see results in local elections so I keep going.
Honestly we got lucky with Clinton and was a fairly decent president.

originally posted by: lakenheath24
Problem is...peeps complain bout nobody to vote for...then an outsider turns up and .....well verybody starts hatin on them. We are mental.

Our current POTUS is a good example of this... he won as an outsider and look at the baseless, ridiculous hate directed at him.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

True....but he had to put an R beside his name to get elected. I=taboo


We all know he aint no R. Not in todays terms. I think hes a moderate....which is what I like. Thing is he has had to go a bit hardcore right to balance out the ultra mad left.

Jmo of course.

a reply to: lakenheath24

He'd have been a left leaning moderate within the GOP 25 years ago, today he's standing right of the entire party, which shows how marginalized and liberal the GOP has become to keep up with the Dems. If the party doesn't reverse course and return to being the conservative, Right side party, a third party will eventually emerge that is truly a conservative party and it will flourish.

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
I hope he runs as an independent because it would kill the Democrats chances of a win, but doubt it will effect Trump nearly as much. We all know him as the Starbucks CEO that supports the SJW movement. He definitely won't be taking my vote for Trump away.

I totally agree. He is still a liberal SJW.

He won’t represent me or my values so why would I vote for him? He is just a Democrat pretending to be a independent.

Sorry, but this guy can't even make a good coffee.

Then, to top off his burnt bean coffee, what does he do?

-he overcharges 400%

He has already proven he doesn't mind ripping off Americans.

I like how he talks, maybe this one will be good for us?."