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Under questioning by Republican Delegate Todd Gilbert, Tran revealed that her bill would not limit abortion even after the point of viability, where the child could survive on his or her own. In fact, she said her bill would potentially allow a woman to seek an abortion as she was in the process of giving birth.
Gilbert went on to press Tran about the requirements for a physician to determine that a woman’s mental health dictated that a woman could receive an abortion for a viable baby in the 3rd trimester. Tran admitted that the physician would not need any special training to make this determination. In effect, it’s a catch-all that means any woman demanding a viable baby be aborted rather than born can legally do so.
originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: infolurker
Fetus is not a baby. However, if the fetus can live and breath on its own you make good point that it is immoral. If the fetus cannot live on its own without the umbilical cord then who are we to decide what a woman does with her body? Where does a woman's rights over how her body is used end? Are you next going to outlaw the removal of cancer because you think it is immoral to kill large masses of living cells? Where does your side of the restrictions end? What about all the sperm that dies as a result of men masturbating? Should there be laws against killing sperm?
But as I said, late term is an issue because a fetus that can live without an umbilical cord is really a baby.
originally posted by: EmmanuelGoldstein
originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: infolurker
Fetus is not a baby. However, if the fetus can live and breath on its own you make good point that it is immoral. If the fetus cannot live on its own without the umbilical cord then who are we to decide what a woman does with her body? Where does a woman's rights over how her body is used end? Are you next going to outlaw the removal of cancer because you think it is immoral to kill large masses of living cells? Where does your side of the restrictions end? What about all the sperm that dies as a result of men masturbating? Should there be laws against killing sperm?
But as I said, late term is an issue because a fetus that can live without an umbilical cord is really a baby.
Dude, from one far left progressive to another I gotta say, how much more pot do you cram in than usual to come up with stuff like this?
I mean, is cancer going to grow into a kid that wants to learn about life? No. Is your pile of sperm that you discard every night going to turn into a kid that wants to go outside and play? No, but a fetus would. What an asshat you try to be and end up being sometimes.
originally posted by: xuenchen
dumb-bells keep forgetting most aborted fetuses are future democrats 😎
originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: infolurker
What about all the sperm that dies as a result of men masturbating?
originally posted by: Ohanka
If the baby can live outside the mother then it is murder.
The only acceptable abortion at the late stage is if for whatever reason the mother's life would be severely threatened by giving birth, or if the kid has no heart or something. That happens occasionally.
originally posted by: r0xor
originally posted by: Ohanka
If the baby can live outside the mother then it is murder.
The only acceptable abortion at the late stage is if for whatever reason the mother's life would be severely threatened by giving birth, or if the kid has no heart or something. That happens occasionally.
If the umbilical cord is still attached it's not breathing air yet.