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The church, indeed, has frequently experienced the worst of both worlds, in the form of the domineering false teacher, who claims an illegitimate authority and then uses it to enforce acceptance of departures from the gospel.
Are you hearing phrases like “Obey, Apostolic Mandate, Five Fold Ministry, Tithing, Honor the Pastor, Set Man, Theocracy, Under Authority, Covering, Robbing God, or Submit” at your church?
False apostles are rising up in New Zealand, the United States, Australia, the United Kingdom, and in other countries. They plan to subjugate (to bring under control and governance as a subject, to conquer) Churches and their leaders. From what we can tell these “Super Apostles” aim to build a fiefdom (a medieval feudal estate) of churches with themselves as the lords.
Authority is a key word for this clandestine movement. Everyone must be under authority. That is, under their authority. Now of course apostles did have authority in Scripture, but these new apostles claim that authority as their own, and a great deal more too. Under the catch cries of “Church Governance” and “The Church is a theocracy not a democracy” they employ standard cultic Mind Control methods. They practice “enforced giving”, where tithes and offerings of church members are recorded. Members who do not give the “correct” amount are disciplined and held back from leadership. People are banned from going to other churches and working for Para church organizations not under the apostle’s control. They control relationships, ordering people to stay away from friends and family outside the movement. Some even demand Christian members seek permission to marry each other. They run a reporting structure where members watch other members, and confidential information is passed up through the leadership pyramid. Some members have even had their rooms searched. People who wish to live in cities where there is no branch of the Super Apostle’s church are told not to go. Time control sees endless compulsory meetings. Failing to attend a meeting is noticed and the member is spoken to. Breaking sessions are employed where leaders “character assassinate” a member until they break down. Church members are given the impression that they can only be saved by being part of the Super Apostles church. Churches outside the “kingdom” are fallen and dead.
As far as I can tell, this language confusion is English-based. The Latin text of the Bible seems to keep the distinction between the Old Testament SACERDOS and the New Testament PRESBYTER. Just as the Spanish Bible on my bookshelves (now consulted for the very first time) distinguishes between SACERDOTE and ANCIANO. So the double meaning of the word “priest” is the result, not the cause, of a much older habit of thinking which identified the two functions.
originally posted by: toms54
What is the "world church"? You seem to imply it is the Roman Catholic but you don't actually say that.
originally posted by: toms54
The word “priest” is not an English only concept. England had very little influence in the early Catholic church. They were kind of remote and had their own traditions. You cite the Spanish Bible but the Spanish speaking churches worldwide have a strong tradition of priesthood as do the Orthodox churches in the east.
originally posted by: toms54
The concept of authority is not some middle ages development.
The Catholic priests do not form a caste as in the Jewish tradition. There is no priestly caste. It is not an inherited office. Candidates apply and train for it the same as any Christian office anywhere in any denomination.
Cults do exist but to present this section after the others is an underhanded way to imply the Roman Catholic church is a cult. If that is what you believe, why don't you say it?