And just like that Trump caves.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Sookiechacha

The bills yesterday were for 3-weeks of funding?

How many weeks away is Feb 15th?

What does your calendar say? I was asking if the two bills defeated in the Senate yesterday were 3-week stopgap funding bills.

Oh, sorry, I missed the question mark.

The Senate also rejected a Democratic spending bill, which has passed the House 231-180. This bill would have temporarily funded the government through Feb. 28, until a new deal could be reached.

So, the Democrats bill would have temporarily funded the government until Feb 28, bout 6 weeks.

originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: ker2010

originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: fleabit


He did the right thing however - he basically threw a tantrum because of his wall, and stopping the inane pointless shutdown made sense. I think border security and immigration is an important topic. I don't think for a moment it's a national emergency, imminent peril type of situation - and it's sad he convinced so many of his followers that it is.

Priceless. Trump was wrong for asking for something you believe in. Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No I think you're misunderstanding him. He's saying that he believes in border security as it relates to immigration, but doesn't believe its a national emergency.

And how many more millions do we allow in illegally before its considered a emergency? I mean since 20 million is such a laughably low amount.

The number has been steadily decreasing for a decade, which would indicate that rather than an emergency, the severity concurrently is also lessening. Since Trump was mum on the 'Mexico illegal immigration emergency' a decade ago at its height, its logical to conclude that the current outrage is of political manufacture.

Got some numbers to back up that claim or heck even a link from Salon or even Mother Jones 😆

a reply to: Sookiechacha

OK.. so the February 15th deadline was set by President Trump for border barrier negotiation. The funding continues to February 28th. Got it.

a reply to: carewemust

lot of people are jumping the gun here.

We need to wait and see the bill and who voted for it.

Everyone jumping on the president seems to overlook the obvious fact the socialist party really doesn't care about Americans and was willing to let them starve to keep the illegal taps open. He's gonna flank these mofos in a couple weeks it sounds like.

ha ha

a reply to: nataylor

Wrong time frame on those bills plus it says only passed by the house.

the reporting is that they were passed by both house and senate and signed by potus.

These might not be them.

Or this is early stage of what they became.

We need the bills potus signed.

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: carewemust

lot of people are jumping the gun here.

We need to wait and see the bill and who voted for it.

Are you saying that:

www.congress.gov...
and
www.congress.gov...

Are NOT the bills signed by President Trump tonight?

a reply to: Wayfarer

20 million?

Sounds like folks are upset because out of ~330,000,000 that makes this country ~8% full of illegals. Who are abusing those "safety nets" you all seem to like so much as well as engaging in any number in political activism or advocacy. Doing so is "meddling" by foreign nationals, something you all also complained about so how about show a little consistency here

The point is we don't need ~1/10 people in this country being an unaccountable and unknowable foreign national who (for some unknown reason) feel entitled to the benefits enjoyed by actual Citizens & legal residents of this country. Makes no sense to me at all, don't they have their own countries

The Dirty Trickster

a reply to: circuitsports

No question about that

He will crush them like the spineless, anti-American, Constitution hating, socialist loving pith ants they are

Sad to say I despise ~40% of this country. I resent the fact they occupy the same land as the rational/sane/worthwhile part of America.

Wish they'd keep their pre-election promises and get the hell out. They should learn to take a hint when their bull # ideology isnt wanted somewhere

a reply to: carewemust

They might be and the congress.gov site hasn't updated it's info.

I think the final bills even if based on these two have been changed.

So I'm still waiting for congress.gov to show that to me.

a reply to: soundguy

Another "read my lips" moment.

Here's the one he signed:

H.J.Res.28 - 116th Congress (2019-2020): Further Additional Continuing Appropriations Act, 2019.

This joint resolution provides continuing FY2019 appropriations to several federal agencies through the earlier of February 28, 2019, or the enactment of the applicable appropriations legislation.
...
Additionally, the CR has the effect of extending through February 28, 2019, several authorities and programs that were extended in prior CRs, including

- the Violence Against Women Act,
- the authority for the Environmental Protection Agency to collect and spend certain fees related to pesticides,
- the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) program, and
- several authorities related to immigration.

a reply to: Krakatoa

Unfortunately it says only passed the house.

The one he signed was most likely changed by the senate before voting on it.

I'm also reading that there are two bills and one deals with daca.

a reply to: scraedtosleep

From the House Clerk:

clerk.house.gov...

6:57:01 P.M. The House received a message from the Clerk. Pursuant to the permission granted in Clause 2(h) of Rule II of the Rules of the U.S. House of Representatives, the Clerk notified the House that she had received the following message from the Secretary of the Senate on January 25, 2019 at 6:25 p.m.: That the Senate passed H.J. Res. 28 amended and that the Senate passed H.J. Res. 31 with an mendment, insists on its amendment and requests a Conference with the House.

House rejected the amendment to H.J. Res 31, so it will go to conference. H.J. Res. 28 was agreed to, so that’s what went to the President to sign.

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: Krakatoa

Unfortunately it says only passed the house.

The one he signed was most likely changed by the senate before voting on it.

I'm also reading that there are two bills and one deals with daca.

Ahh....no. The other bill didn't pass, so this one made it through to the POTUS to sign.

See here ---> No amendment submitted

And here's a nice little news tidbit.... Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Is Only Democrat To Vote Against Reopening Government

Not gonna read the entire thread. I'm sure I am not the first to tell the OP this. Trump will get what he wants/needs. This is a fluid situation. He had to make a call, and he is not sure what or when his next call to make will be.

Come 15 Feb, if there is no agreement, then Trump will shut the govt down again. Or, maybe more likely, he will use his constitutional powers to declare an emergency.

All politics aside, the man is a pure God Send. He is knocking down issues that politicians would not touch because they need the political footballs to get elected. After he fixes the border, the Jerusalem Embassy, Supreme Court, Transgenders in the military, tax cuts, china trade agreement, NATO agreements, IRAN, North Korea, and makes an inevitable failed effort at a mideast process,,, he will tackle Social Security and the National Debt.

Mark my words. He is in it to win it! And that's what you snowflakes just don't get.

a reply to: underwerks

Anyone who thinks Trump actually cares about a wall, hasn’t been paying attention.

It's as if the last 2 years never happened. You know, the do nothing president under his do nothing GOP Congress? But GUYS IT'S AN EMERGENCY NOW.

Gotta hand it to Nancy, she certainly got to him. She's an old corporate hack like he is, but I'll give her credit for this.

a reply to: Southern Guardian

Yea, shame on him for trying to get congress to do their job.