Heroes of the DNC

Let me first state that this is about the DNC itself, not the average Democrat party member. I had a thought that seems to cry out for it's own thread, so here it is.

Since 2016, when the unthinkable happened and Donald J. Trump was elected President out of nowhere, the DNC has tried to cash in on this populist movement that put him into office. Really, I can see how someone who is out of touch with average Americans can see this as some sort of strange phenomena... the man committed an almost impossible act by gaining the Presidency itself, the highest office in the land, on his first serious attempt by beating out some of the best-known politicians of the day.

So I have watched the DNC parade out people to try and recreate this phenomenon for their own benefit. Here's a short list from my memory:

• Stormy Daniels (aka Stephanie Clifford):
  
  
  Stormy, a porn star and stripper with obvious 'assets,' appeared on the scene March 6, 2018, filing a lawsuit against Donald Trump. Many of her accusations have been dismissed, and she has since dropped off the public radar to a great degree.
  
  
• Michael Avenatti:
  
  
  The "Creepy Porn Lawyer" (nicknamed as such by Fox News pundit Tucker Carlson) came into public view as the representative of Stormy Daniels in her legal battles. Since coming on scene, Avenatti has been exposed as operating fraudulent schemes to cheat associates, facing several different disbarment proceedings, going against Stormy Daniels' wishes (reported by Stormy Daniels herself), and has lost several court cases, both defending himself and his clients.
  
  
• David Hogg:
  
  
  David Hogg came onto the public scene after the tragedy at Parkland High School. He gained a ton of notoriety as being an 'average student' whose self-styled campaign against firearms was nothing short of epic. However, he was discredited due to some of the more ludicrous claims he made and positions he took, and has since faded from notoriety.
  
  
• 'Beto' O'Rourke:
  
  
  Technically a US Representative and therefore already a politician, Beto is included here because prior to the 2018 elections, he was not well-known. He rose to fame as narrowly losing to long-term incumbent Senator Ted Cruz, a Latino Senator with very high name recognition. Depite losing, Beto is now a serious contender in the Democratic race for nomination in 2020. The appearance is that his name "Beto" (a nickname of Spanish derivation) was used prominently in his campaign to give the indication that he was somewhat Hispanic. He is not. O'Rourke is actually Welsh/Irish.
  
  
• Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez:
  
  
  AOC, as she is often referred to, was a surprise winner in New York in 2018, beating out long-term incumbent Representative Joe Crowley, Her surprise victory as a 28-year-old unknown with political views similar to failed 2016 DNC Primary candidate Bernie Sanders helped catapult her to stardom overnight, and her frequent slips of the tongue combined with her caricature-friendly facial features have made her an easy target for memes mocking her positions and mental ability.
  
  
• Nathan Phillips:
  
  
  Nathan Phillips, a Native American who was videoed banging his drum surrounded by a group of Kentucky high school students wearing MAGA hats, was initially portrayed as a military hero and Native Elder who was brave enough to not retreat in the face of violent political opposition. Later, however, the complete video was released, which showed both he and a group of 'Black Israelites' actually as the ones who were taunting the high schoolers. Further investigation has revealed that he was never deployed to Vietnam, he was reported AWOL three separate times during his service, and his claim of an 'Honorable Discharge" from the USMC is now also in question. Other Native American figures who claim to know him have also come forth with allegations that he is a troublemaker, a known disruption, and does not represent his tribe.

The common thread that runs through all of these people is that all have been hailed as up and coming members of the movements the DNC seems to embrace. They share that distinction with Donald Trump. However, they all have been exposed as fraudulent or inept in some critical way, and most have been completely discredited.

This is the problem as I see it with modern politics: the attempt to paint a persona for a warm body that seems to fit the narrative at the moment. It's not a DNC problem or a GOP problem; both are guilty. I focus on the DNC here only because they seem to be more adamant at this point in time about pushing this kind of falsehood on the American people. We do not need caricatures that project images we want to see; we need action and solid morals that align with our own. But our politicians and leaders continue to focus not on who they are, but on who they want us to think they are. The above examples show this clearly IMO.

I probably missed several examples; I'm old and my head is full of garbage from a lifetime. So feel free to mention any I may have missed.

TheRedneck

The DNC is trying to manufacture genuineness.

They still haven't figured out the irony in the attempt.

a reply to: TheRedneck

Another notable would be Emma Gonzalez (the female acquaintance of David Hoggs).

Now you might as well put Cardi B in that list too, since AOC and the MSM is touting her rant against Trump as "epic"

(wow, I can't believe I just typed that and it isn't a joke... it's real life)

You totally forgot the Ford fraud feline.

I think since Trump got elected, all politicians have realized the people want something new and fresh.

I think the DNC more adamant about it now because they are throwing s#it at a wall to see what sticks. I don't think the GOP thought Trump would stick, but he did. DNC has to compete with that in 2020. It is now or never for them to figure out who their new and fresh candidate. Otherwise, they are going to through another Hillary up there and embarrass themselves.

Kind of a side note: I don't believe there is a person out there that could not be "exposed as fraudulent" at this point. It carries a lot of weight, at least for me, for what you are proved fraudulent for these days.

The truly sad part is that, along with the likes of Pelosi, Schumer and Waters, this is the best they've got.

I am proud that some of the Native Americans came forth to discredit Philips. I figured they would not back someone who stirs up trouble like that. Philips is not an evil person, his beliefs have just been distorted by the group he is hanging around with. His actions would be condemned by many of the Indians here I know but they would not come out and go after him, they would just say he does not represent the majority of the Native Americans in this country.

The Democrats do tend to put the wrong kinds of people on a pedestal. I have nothing against strippers or people who have jobs like Stormy, but her actions with all this scandal hurt more people in her trade than help them. I have known strippers over the years, they aren't bad people most times but some are not good people. It is their job, a good paying job at that. But some of them are dishonest and full of deceit. I have never paid for sex..well, actually I was previously married so I lied about that. I suppose technically, It cost me quite a bit in this marriage too. I try not to judge a book by it's cover.

Fraudulent "caricature?" Don't forget this fella....

a reply to: rickymouse

Maybe if they put Madison Ivy up.....maybe. But just for three and a half minutes. Maybe even four.

a reply to: shawmanfromny

I know lots of fellow vets. Some ain't worth the air they waste. Serving don't mean you served.

a reply to: headorheart

Ironically, I think it was actually the opposition Trump received from the GOP proper during his campaign that led to him being elected. I have heard many people say "The Democrats hate him and the Republicans hate him, so he must be doing something right." That's what is missing. Trump threw himself into the ring on his own, with opposition from all sides. When the DNC supports someone, it is the exact opposite of Trump's success.

I don't believe there is a person out there that could not be "exposed as fraudulent" at this point.

In many ways, I think you're correct. Everyone has skeletons in their closet.

I think the real difference is that while Trump openly admits to his failings, those on the list above seem to want to hide from theirs. There's a lot to be said for simply being honest. The American people in general are used to failings; they just don't like dishonesty.

TheRedneck

a reply to: rickymouse

When I first heard about Phillips, my first thought was "How dare these self-righteous fools get in the face of an Indian?" I consider the Native Americans as a rightfully proud and noble people. Then, when he was exposed as a fraud, my thoughts switched 180 degrees to "This fool just disgraced his own people!" I went from completely sympathetic to indignant at light speed.

And of course, finding out about his military record didn't help either. I had two uncles who served in WWII, one as a medic on the front lines, and my Dad served in Korea. I have known many, many Vietnam vets over the years, one who was a POW for some time. Those folks were heroes. Phillips could have been a hero as well just for serving, but he blew that by trying to steal his valor from those who deserved it.

As for Stormy... I try not to judge. That industry is packed full of immoral, dishonest, money-grubbing perverts, but there are still quite a few who do not fit that mold. I even knew a few girls who worked their way through school as exotic dancers, then turned their back on it for the better life it gave them access to. I admire that! They took a very difficult occupation, and turned it into a life positive despite the many temptations to stay in it.

That said, there is still a well-deserved stigma... success stories are not the norm.

TheRedneck

a reply to: shawmanfromny

Blumenthal is himself a caricature of focused illusion. If he remembers something like that, it's a safe bet that it never happened.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

I think for the most part that these are not heroes of the DNC, rather celebrity creations of the media. Supposing that they are liberal heroes because the msm touts them so much is all dependent upon the narrative that the msm is liberal.
The meme is for the most part status quo oriented and part of the status quo now is celebrity. Celebrity gives focus for them to sell their stories day after day and week after week. Come back here because you recognize the names we offer you, recognize the huge breasts and slanderous actions.

It worked for Trump. Celebrity and the media glued to him because every day was a great day for advertising. People tuned in to see what was happening with Trump. Now he is Prez.

To a degree I agree about Cortez. Yep, she was a surprise victory. A surprise victory that the DNC could latch onto and push to the forefront for immediate celebrity status. She has been used as a tool by them and she has gone ahead willingly. So in her case yes, she is for now, a hero.

ORoarke as well. He will not go far and I think they know it. Other than those two, the rest are creations of the media looking for focus points.

And yes, it may be that the DNC is allowing the MSM to tell them who their heroes are, hoping that someone will gain enough recognition to become the next Trump.

We should all know by now that for the most part, voting has little to do with the issues because those issues are fudged by both sides to improve the media image of their points of view. It's the facial recognition, the name branding that wins. What else explains Clinton Two and Bush Two and their try at Bush Three. Heaven forbid that they try for Obama Two.

And don't get me started on that Phillips cat.

I don't like most of what the DNC is doing now. Letting Pelosi back in power and allowing Schummer to be their ''faces'' is a loosing gambit. PIcking their new faces by media acclaim is also a loosing gambit.

a reply to: TheRedneck


How strange is that! I had 2 uncles who served during WWII and my father served during the Korean war too...

a reply to: shawmanfromny

There were something like 180 total SEALs in Vietnam.

I've met all 1200 of them.

Reminds of kids on Halloween changing masks and going back to the same houses over and over hoping they never catch on.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

The MSM acts as public relations arms of the parties... they are not just looking for ratings any more; they are actively pushing political agendas. Most of the MSM is aligned with the DNC, while Fox seems to be aligned with the GOP. None of them are truly "pro-Trump," although Fox comes closer. So when you say these are media created entities, I see it as the same as politically created entities.

The MSM shot themselves in the foot with Trump. They wanted the advertising revenue, but by getting it they also gave Trump a major platform that he was more than happy to take advantage of. The man can manipulate media; you have to give him that.

O'Rourke is a flash in the pan. I agree with you there. He has taken the "average Joe" approach way too far, even publishing a video of himself at the dentist. No one really wants to see that!

Cortez is yet to be determined, so we agree there as well. I expect her to become the next Maxine Waters personally, as she seems to have a lot of DNC support. We'll see.

TheRedneck

a reply to: DAVID64

They would have a chance if they were still using the Obummers and Hillary to spread their message.

But since they're flying under the radar now there's not much left to go with...

It's both pathetic and exciting to watch.

a reply to: seeker1963

And I would bet money that they never spoke of it much. I know I didn't even know my uncles were in WWII until their funerals. Both had a military contingent present.

I knew about Dad's service, but he never spoke of it. It was like a part of his life he just wanted to forget. Even the Vietnam vets who have told me about their experiences were loathe to do so at first. Seems the more someone talks about their experiences, the less likely they are to have had those experiences.

TheRedneck