Query: If Trump Commits Troops to Venezuela Will You Support Him?

originally posted by: Propagandalf
a reply to: CriticalStinker

That was the 40's, things aren't like they used to be.

Plus if you're going to use an example of genocide, why not point out that isn't happening in Venezuela yet, but it is in Myanmar?

So where is the virtue signaling for that?

Probably because they weren't on the oil list.

I was using an example of liberation, not genocide.

You're dancing around the subject and trying to virtue signal Venezuela as some moral escapade.

Point is, there are places that are worse off right now, some of them we're engaged in making them worse off.

You can't give a large scale example other than the Gulf War where we liberated someone since WWII and it turn out to be a positive.

Recent trends show it would be a bad idea.

If you're so gun hoe about Venezuela, why not Myanmar where there is actual genocide going on?

Only a fool squanders their own resources when anothers are available at a discount.... HELLO!



a reply to: matafuchs

originally posted by: Qboneq
How many “foreigner” ALIENS to you should be killed/dead by the name of “pseudo American freedom?”

"I" "think" "all" "of" "them" "should" "be" "killed".

Then we can have "food" and "oil".

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: Propagandalf
a reply to: CriticalStinker

That was the 40's, things aren't like they used to be.

Plus if you're going to use an example of genocide, why not point out that isn't happening in Venezuela yet, but it is in Myanmar?

So where is the virtue signaling for that?

Probably because they weren't on the oil list.

I was using an example of liberation, not genocide.

You're dancing around the subject and trying to virtue signal Venezuela as some moral escapade.

Point is, there are places that are worse off right now, some of them we're engaged in making them worse off.

You can't give a large scale example other than the Gulf War where we liberated someone since WWII and it turn out to be a positive.

Recent trends show it would be a bad idea.

If you're so gun hoe about Venezuela, why not Myanmar where there is actual genocide going on?

I'm not sure you understand what "virtue-signalling" means, especially when compared to your pacifism.

Of course there are places worse off right now, but will you do anything? No. You'll just make more excuses to do nothing.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Qboneq

I've been arguing against war almost the whole thread... Page one I was joking about it.

Listen man, cultures are different, many American's know how F###ed up it all is, so we use humor to vent frustration or to convey ideas.

Sarcasm is heavy over here, I'm not telling you that you have to laugh, but it's just what we do.

No offence “taken”, hopefully none be inflicted by my comments.. Been following “your ideas” and “posts” for sometimes now..

No worries..


And thank you anyway…

originally posted by: Propagandalf

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: Propagandalf
a reply to: CriticalStinker

That was the 40's, things aren't like they used to be.

Plus if you're going to use an example of genocide, why not point out that isn't happening in Venezuela yet, but it is in Myanmar?

So where is the virtue signaling for that?

Probably because they weren't on the oil list.

I was using an example of liberation, not genocide.

You're dancing around the subject and trying to virtue signal Venezuela as some moral escapade.

Point is, there are places that are worse off right now, some of them we're engaged in making them worse off.

You can't give a large scale example other than the Gulf War where we liberated someone since WWII and it turn out to be a positive.

Recent trends show it would be a bad idea.

If you're so gun hoe about Venezuela, why not Myanmar where there is actual genocide going on?

I'm not sure you understand what "virtue-signalling" means, especially when compared to your pacifism.

Of course there are places worse off right now, but will you do anything? No. You'll just make more excuses to do nothing.

There's a difference between pacifism and demanding positive results, something we have a bad record in post WWII as far as military conflicts.

Funny you're trying to stay on the high horse when we have a horrible track record for the last half century.

Plus I didn't say do nothing, I said get the international community on it.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: Propagandalf

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: Propagandalf
a reply to: CriticalStinker

That was the 40's, things aren't like they used to be.

Plus if you're going to use an example of genocide, why not point out that isn't happening in Venezuela yet, but it is in Myanmar?

So where is the virtue signaling for that?

Probably because they weren't on the oil list.

I was using an example of liberation, not genocide.

You're dancing around the subject and trying to virtue signal Venezuela as some moral escapade.

Point is, there are places that are worse off right now, some of them we're engaged in making them worse off.

You can't give a large scale example other than the Gulf War where we liberated someone since WWII and it turn out to be a positive.

Recent trends show it would be a bad idea.

If you're so gun hoe about Venezuela, why not Myanmar where there is actual genocide going on?

I'm not sure you understand what "virtue-signalling" means, especially when compared to your pacifism.

Of course there are places worse off right now, but will you do anything? No. You'll just make more excuses to do nothing.

There's a difference between pacifism and demanding positive results, something we have a bad record in post WWII as far as military conflicts.

Funny you're trying to stay on the high horse when we have a horrible track record for the last half century.

Plus I didn't say do nothing, I said get the international community on it.

Do nothing because you've got a little hunch. I get it.

originally posted by: Propagandalf

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: Propagandalf

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: Propagandalf
a reply to: CriticalStinker

That was the 40's, things aren't like they used to be.

Plus if you're going to use an example of genocide, why not point out that isn't happening in Venezuela yet, but it is in Myanmar?

So where is the virtue signaling for that?

Probably because they weren't on the oil list.

I was using an example of liberation, not genocide.

You're dancing around the subject and trying to virtue signal Venezuela as some moral escapade.

Point is, there are places that are worse off right now, some of them we're engaged in making them worse off.

You can't give a large scale example other than the Gulf War where we liberated someone since WWII and it turn out to be a positive.

Recent trends show it would be a bad idea.

If you're so gun hoe about Venezuela, why not Myanmar where there is actual genocide going on?

I'm not sure you understand what "virtue-signalling" means, especially when compared to your pacifism.

Of course there are places worse off right now, but will you do anything? No. You'll just make more excuses to do nothing.

There's a difference between pacifism and demanding positive results, something we have a bad record in post WWII as far as military conflicts.

Funny you're trying to stay on the high horse when we have a horrible track record for the last half century.

Plus I didn't say do nothing, I said get the international community on it.

Do nothing because you've got a little hunch. I get it.

Says the guy who refuses to admit our track record is God awful post WWII.

It's not a huntch when you use plenty of past examples on why it's a bad idea.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Says you. It is reality. I know the 'true figures' are not released but you will be surprised. We can start another thread if you would like to discuss but there is NO reason for us to go to Venezuela for oil. That is what the OP is about not a pissing contest about oil exports. I also already clarified we are the largest producer not exporter but our exports exceeded imports for the first time in almost 50 years.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: Propagandalf

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: Propagandalf

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: Propagandalf
a reply to: CriticalStinker

That was the 40's, things aren't like they used to be.

Plus if you're going to use an example of genocide, why not point out that isn't happening in Venezuela yet, but it is in Myanmar?

So where is the virtue signaling for that?

Probably because they weren't on the oil list.

I was using an example of liberation, not genocide.

You're dancing around the subject and trying to virtue signal Venezuela as some moral escapade.

Point is, there are places that are worse off right now, some of them we're engaged in making them worse off.

You can't give a large scale example other than the Gulf War where we liberated someone since WWII and it turn out to be a positive.

Recent trends show it would be a bad idea.

If you're so gun hoe about Venezuela, why not Myanmar where there is actual genocide going on?

I'm not sure you understand what "virtue-signalling" means, especially when compared to your pacifism.

Of course there are places worse off right now, but will you do anything? No. You'll just make more excuses to do nothing.

There's a difference between pacifism and demanding positive results, something we have a bad record in post WWII as far as military conflicts.

Funny you're trying to stay on the high horse when we have a horrible track record for the last half century.

Plus I didn't say do nothing, I said get the international community on it.

Do nothing because you've got a little hunch. I get it.

Says the guy who refuses to admit our track record is God awful post WWII.

It's not a huntch when you use plenty of past examples on why it's a bad idea.

Any prophesy is a hunch. Add on top of that your counterfactual assumptions that things would have been better had we stayed out of those conflicts.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: FrostyFlakes

But to answer OP: yes, will support Trump. Tho he may lose some other supporters for it.

Yea, who cares about campaign promises?

Reduction of war is weak, flip flopping makes me think we're on a beach and gets me thirsty for a Corona.

With no lime I hope. It's better that way.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

In short no, I will not support it at all.


If we were a part of a humanitarian relief effort comprised of many nations, then I would accept it but I still wouldn't like it.

I see Trump trying to scramble & get in-the-loop of processing the Venezuela Petroleum Fields... that both China & Russia have their eyes on and are way ahead of the USA in setting up infrastructure to exploit these resourses


China has their One Belt-One Road Program of financial investment & both Russia/China have the BRICS money & power as leverage to gain Trade with the Nation thats now in hyper-inflation territory because of the socialist-Marxist agendas they adopted


Trump send in troops-- No
will the NeoCons pressuring Trump create an Proxy Army-- very Likely

originally posted by: matafuchs
Says you.

Says the United States government, they're the ones submitting their own figures.

It is reality.

No, it's not a reality that we export more oil than Saudi Arabia.

I know the 'true figures' are not released but you will be surprised.

Right, I'm sure they all do that to try and make you look bad for claiming we are the world's largest oil exporter.

By 2020 the US is projected to be 100% energy independent.

There's no need. Unless that is reversed by the anti-maga crowds.

They need food, not guns. Why would trump care. He cares more about a wall then about the welfare of government workers.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

MOVE ON MAN....

That info is from 2017 but to clarify we are now producing more oil than SA or Russia. We are also for the first time ever exporting more than importing since December 2018. We have no need for oil.

Unlike the media I put in a retraction and clarified my statement. Bottom line if you go 'read' about it and not find an article to fit your agenda you will see that the US is dominating the oil market right now. Like I said, you want another debate start a thread otherwise move on...

Last I heard of Venezuela they were giving free fuel oil to people in the u.s.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

You just lost your freemason card

Venezuela has the largest amount of proven oil reserves in the world. No doubt the greedy US empire is interested and Trump needs a distraction.

But, of course, anybody in their right mind would be against American military intervention