Trump possibly commits Witness tampering twice; No one cares

a reply to: Lysergic

Thanks. I'm glad you think I have all the answers but sadly I dont.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: UKTruth

You're so cute.
Of course its ok to assume innocence thats the way our system works but lets not pretend the was no reason for an investigation ok?
What do you think has been going on the past two years? A garden party?
I dont assume guilt but I sure assume that a crime has been committed. That's why they are investigating.
I'm not the one going around acting like I have all the answers when no one does.
Y'all are so sure he didnt do anything when the preponderance of what we have been allowed to see suggests exactly the opposite.

You've consistently claimed Trump is guilty - of pretty much anything the media tell you he is guilty of.
If you are now backing off that and admitting you have no idea, that's a positive step which i congratulate you for.

As for Mueller's investigation it was started with the specific admission from Rosenstein that he had NOT determined that a crime had been committed. Since then, there has been no determination that Trump has committed any crime, so any assumptions you have about the investigation are clearly based on what you see on the news.

a reply to: UKTruth

I have consistently said theres a reason they are investigating.
At no time have I ever said I know trump is guilty....
I do believe he is guilty... thats not the same thing.
I also consistently say that it aint over til its over but you want it over before its even begun.
So I wonder what you truly believe. And what you may be afraid of....
Dont take it all so personally especially since you're not even an american.
Nothing that happens to trump is going to affect you in any way.

Cohen has now been subpoenaed to answer anyway.

Trump's ex-lawyer Michael Cohen subpoenaed by Senate Intelligence committee to testify before he goes to jail

President Donald Trump's former personal lawyer Michael Cohen on Thursday was subpoenaed by the Senate Intelligence Committee to testify in mid-February. The Senate committee's subpoena was revealed a day after Cohen, 52, postponed a Feb. 7 hearing before the House Oversight and Reform Committee, citing ongoing "threats" against his family allegedly made by Trump and his current lawyer, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

www.cnbc.com...

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: UKTruth

I have consistently said theres a reason they are investigating.
At no time have I ever said I know trump is guilty....
I do believe he is guilty... thats not the same thing.
I also consistently say that it aint over til its over but you want it over before its even begun.
So I wonder what you truly believe. And what you may be afraid of....
Dont take it all so personally especially since you're not even an american.
Nothing that happens to trump is going to affect you in any way.

Again - kudos for backtracking on your previous statements that Trump is guilty of crimes.
What I believe is that an investigation was started without the determination of a crime. I believe that for good reason - that is what the person who initiated the investigation said.
Whether the investigation has found a crime that Trump has committed is completely unknown and we do not even know if they are actually investigating any crime they suspect him of committing. The last we heard is that your President is not a subject of the investigation. Somehow, with the help of the media, you've convinced yourself that some crimes must have been committed by your President.

What happens to the US affects the entire world. If you don't understand this, then it does explain a few things.
I'd politley suggest that my factual responses are an example of not taking it personally, whereas your oft irrational hatred of Trump seems very very personal.

a reply to: UKTruth

and BTW the media hasnt said trump is guilty of anything either...

a reply to: UKTruth

Like I said.... you're cute...

"Trump possibly commits witness tampering twice"

"Silly possibly was right about something once"

Same/Same

a reply to: BlackJackal
Let me guess your avatar is all black masked like ANTIFA. Ok orange man bad. I get it. Your side is indelible truth and our side is all gossip and unsubstantiated trash. No arguing with you. I have better things to do.

If they ever did...we just need a fbi boss like comey who gets it, u know, that Trump didnt really understand he was doing bad stuff....it wasnt his intent.

Heck hillary was just a candidate and was unable to have evil thoughts, surely a full blown President has even less bad intent.

Its called the Comey precedent i think.



a reply to: Sillyolme

a reply to: underpass61

I am right most of the time.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: underpass61

I am right most of the time.

You're posting most of your material somewhere other than ATS?

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: underpass61

I am right most of the time.

I am white most the time.

FTFY

Take a step back a bit ....

If i say
Valerie Plame ...


Dubya
didn't simultaneously set about
on one hand, disparaging people,
whilst ordering unsympathetic articles
from news papers that still exist today
decrying Libby's prosecution ...
...and subsequent encarceration


To have done so
would have been interpreted
by the world at large
(really, it was that big a deal !)
as shady shenanigans in the WH...
.. and Dubya as being totally unhinged ...skreeem

Not a peep though !
And THAT 'affair' was massive at the time
.......

It is totally abnormal, and unacceptable
for any POTUS of any stripe
to be seen, by far or by long
to be intervening in current judicial affairs

Each time that Trump Tweets
about Cohen, Manafort or who ever
he is interfering in a judicial proceding

Interfering.. obstructing ...hmm

I can grant that Cohen's reaction
"whooo, my familly is being threatened"
is a bit overstated, maybe...
POTUS sends in the heavies...
.. inna Jersey Style !
....

Ultimately though,Trump should be restrained
restrained from ... daily communicating !
his instinctive, kneejerk, dog whistling, Twitslaps
are all backfiring on him
...

For 10£, who said :

Sometimes it's better to look like a simpleton
than to open your mouth and to demonstrate that you are one

No Googling !