Ocasio-Cortez: World Is Going To End In 12 Years

a reply to: narrator

What good things will she do for the country? In your opinion.

originally posted by: hombero
a reply to: LSU2018

Bush senior. The people. Lol.

I didn't say he was for the people. I said that ended with Reagan. I was wondering if I should reword the way I laid that part out but went with it. Sr. nor Clinton nor Jr nor Obama were for the people.

originally posted by: narrator

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: narrator

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: narrator
a reply to: shawmanfromny

So...she gets upset, occasionally says things that aren't factually accurate, doesn't care what others think of her, and doesn't have a lot of political experience...

But yet it's scary to you that a lot of Democrats would consider her for president when she becomes legally eligible?

That description sounds EXACTLY like Trump. You're scared of someone exactly like Trump, but the progressive version of him, becoming president.

That makes me chuckle.

I didn't know Cortez was a successful billionaire with decades of experience in business. I'll be damned.

I never said she was. And that has nothing to do with my argument, therefore, strawman.

To the point: Her political description is exactly the same as Trump's. The only differences are age, gender, and what side of the aisle they lean towards.

And the majority on ATS seem genuinely scared of her (why else would people come up with every reason to put her down?), yet they laud Trump for acting the exact same way.

It's an interesting thing to watch.

Trump has been around politics for 50 years, he just never became a politician. He went straight from businessman to president. Cortez is working her way up the same way all of our corrupt politicians do. They all work for each other on both sides. Since Bush Sr., we haven't had a president from either party that was in it for the people. Trump is the first one since Reagan. Cortez is nothing like that. She appeals to radicals and people ignorant enough to think socialism would be successful in a country 330 million strong where a little over half are paying taxes.

I find it hard to believe that anyone in scared of her, a lot of other democrats don't even like her and the same goes for Americans.

I've been around doctors 40 years, just never became a surgeon. But I want to throw my hat in the ring to do the next open heart surgery. I'm sure I can do it, I've been around it for decades.
Different topic, same ridiculous argument.

For the people? For his friends and fellow billionaires, maybe. I can honestly say, without bias, that he hasn't done a single thing to help me, my family/friends, and most of the people where I live. In fact, he's done the exact opposite, and wants to do even more.
He isn't for the people. You just believe him when he says he is.
Or, if you'd rather:
He isn't for the MAJORITY of the people, he's just for a small minority of the population.

That wasn't my argument, bub. I was saying he was around politicians, but he was never one himself. If you were a nurse for 40 years and felt the need to perform an operation meant for a doctor, and had specialists around you to help you, and you'd been watching similar surgeries by the doctors, assessing in your mind the dos and don'ts of what you think would work better, you could certainly step in and take the reins.

If Trump has done the exact opposite of making your life better, vote against him. My life is in better shape and I make more money, I didn't get penalized for not having health insurance, there are a slew of things I could talk about that are better now. I'll be voting for him again.

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: narrator

What good things will she do for the country? In your opinion.

To start, I don't fully support her (yet), I just think she has some good ideas and I'm interested in seeing how she handles herself in her new position before I decide whether or not I'd like her to eventually run for president.

I know we'll disagree on a couple of these (at least), but some of her ideas I'm interested to see further hashed out (maybe not implemented quite yet, but interested in):
1. Tuition free public colleges and trade schools
2. Fighting climate change
3. Healthcare for all citizens
4. Puerto Rico solidarity with the US (not statehood, just more rights)
5. Support for various social minorities, such as LGBT

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: narrator

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: narrator

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: narrator
a reply to: shawmanfromny

So...she gets upset, occasionally says things that aren't factually accurate, doesn't care what others think of her, and doesn't have a lot of political experience...

But yet it's scary to you that a lot of Democrats would consider her for president when she becomes legally eligible?

That description sounds EXACTLY like Trump. You're scared of someone exactly like Trump, but the progressive version of him, becoming president.

That makes me chuckle.

I didn't know Cortez was a successful billionaire with decades of experience in business. I'll be damned.

I never said she was. And that has nothing to do with my argument, therefore, strawman.

To the point: Her political description is exactly the same as Trump's. The only differences are age, gender, and what side of the aisle they lean towards.

And the majority on ATS seem genuinely scared of her (why else would people come up with every reason to put her down?), yet they laud Trump for acting the exact same way.

It's an interesting thing to watch.

Trump has been around politics for 50 years, he just never became a politician. He went straight from businessman to president. Cortez is working her way up the same way all of our corrupt politicians do. They all work for each other on both sides. Since Bush Sr., we haven't had a president from either party that was in it for the people. Trump is the first one since Reagan. Cortez is nothing like that. She appeals to radicals and people ignorant enough to think socialism would be successful in a country 330 million strong where a little over half are paying taxes.

I find it hard to believe that anyone in scared of her, a lot of other democrats don't even like her and the same goes for Americans.

I've been around doctors 40 years, just never became a surgeon. But I want to throw my hat in the ring to do the next open heart surgery. I'm sure I can do it, I've been around it for decades.
Different topic, same ridiculous argument.

For the people? For his friends and fellow billionaires, maybe. I can honestly say, without bias, that he hasn't done a single thing to help me, my family/friends, and most of the people where I live. In fact, he's done the exact opposite, and wants to do even more.
He isn't for the people. You just believe him when he says he is.
Or, if you'd rather:
He isn't for the MAJORITY of the people, he's just for a small minority of the population.

That wasn't my argument, bub. I was saying he was around politicians, but he was never one himself. If you were a nurse for 40 years and felt the need to perform an operation meant for a doctor, and had specialists around you to help you, and you'd been watching similar surgeries by the doctors, assessing in your mind the dos and don'ts of what you think would work better, you could certainly step in and take the reins.

If Trump has done the exact opposite of making your life better, vote against him. My life is in better shape and I make more money, I didn't get penalized for not having health insurance, there are a slew of things I could talk about that are better now. I'll be voting for him again.

Exactly. He was around politicians but wasn't one himself. Why does that give him any advantage in the political world? Your nurse example isn't quite right. Trump had zero political experience, so he wasn't qualified for the position he got. A nurse has medical experience, so would have experience necessary to work through a surgery.

A better example would be: A doctor's financial advisor (Trump) steps in to do a surgery.

Trump was a businessman up to the point he ran for president, he had never done any sort of political profession before then.

originally posted by: narrator

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: iplay1up2
a reply to: shawmanfromny



I do not know much about this woman, don't care to. I did however see this, and it makes sense.

The timeline Ocasio-Cortez referenced was likely based on a U.N. backed report, released last year, that predicted the consequences of man-made climate change would become irreversible in twelve years if global carbon emissions are not immediately and dramatically reduced.

www.yahoo.com...

The only way to reduce these emissions is by pollution. So either we start banning the environmentalists and keep up our normal human pollution in the atmosphere and let the world continue her weather pattern she's had for billions of years, or we keep trying to go green and clean everything up, thus furthering this global warming theory. The whole thing is irony at its best.

Decisions decisions.

Wait. So in your mind, our options are..
A. Do nothing and let pollution continue uninterrupted
B. Clean everything up "and further the global warming theory"?

What's bad about B? Make the earth cleaner, but in so doing, acknowledge that progressives may have been right?

Well if pollution cools the Earth, why would you do the opposite?

Cleaning up air pollution may strengthen global warming

"Pollution in the atmosphere is having an unexpected consequence, scientists say—it's helping to cool the climate, masking some of the global warming that's occurred so far.

That means efforts worldwide to clean up the air may cause an increase in warming, as well as other climate effects, as this pollution disappears."

originally posted by: narrator

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: narrator

What good things will she do for the country? In your opinion.

To start, I don't fully support her (yet), I just think she has some good ideas and I'm interested in seeing how she handles herself in her new position before I decide whether or not I'd like her to eventually run for president.

I know we'll disagree on a couple of these (at least), but some of her ideas I'm interested to see further hashed out (maybe not implemented quite yet, but interested in):
1. Tuition free public colleges and trade schools
2. Fighting climate change
3. Healthcare for all citizens
4. Puerto Rico solidarity with the US (not statehood, just more rights)
5. Support for various social minorities, such as LGBT

Hey I'm all for the free healthcare and school, but someone has to pay for it so it's really not free.

originally posted by: narrator

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: narrator

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: narrator

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: narrator
a reply to: shawmanfromny

So...she gets upset, occasionally says things that aren't factually accurate, doesn't care what others think of her, and doesn't have a lot of political experience...

But yet it's scary to you that a lot of Democrats would consider her for president when she becomes legally eligible?

That description sounds EXACTLY like Trump. You're scared of someone exactly like Trump, but the progressive version of him, becoming president.

That makes me chuckle.

I didn't know Cortez was a successful billionaire with decades of experience in business. I'll be damned.

I never said she was. And that has nothing to do with my argument, therefore, strawman.

To the point: Her political description is exactly the same as Trump's. The only differences are age, gender, and what side of the aisle they lean towards.

And the majority on ATS seem genuinely scared of her (why else would people come up with every reason to put her down?), yet they laud Trump for acting the exact same way.

It's an interesting thing to watch.

Trump has been around politics for 50 years, he just never became a politician. He went straight from businessman to president. Cortez is working her way up the same way all of our corrupt politicians do. They all work for each other on both sides. Since Bush Sr., we haven't had a president from either party that was in it for the people. Trump is the first one since Reagan. Cortez is nothing like that. She appeals to radicals and people ignorant enough to think socialism would be successful in a country 330 million strong where a little over half are paying taxes.

I find it hard to believe that anyone in scared of her, a lot of other democrats don't even like her and the same goes for Americans.

I've been around doctors 40 years, just never became a surgeon. But I want to throw my hat in the ring to do the next open heart surgery. I'm sure I can do it, I've been around it for decades.
Different topic, same ridiculous argument.

For the people? For his friends and fellow billionaires, maybe. I can honestly say, without bias, that he hasn't done a single thing to help me, my family/friends, and most of the people where I live. In fact, he's done the exact opposite, and wants to do even more.
He isn't for the people. You just believe him when he says he is.
Or, if you'd rather:
He isn't for the MAJORITY of the people, he's just for a small minority of the population.

That wasn't my argument, bub. I was saying he was around politicians, but he was never one himself. If you were a nurse for 40 years and felt the need to perform an operation meant for a doctor, and had specialists around you to help you, and you'd been watching similar surgeries by the doctors, assessing in your mind the dos and don'ts of what you think would work better, you could certainly step in and take the reins.

If Trump has done the exact opposite of making your life better, vote against him. My life is in better shape and I make more money, I didn't get penalized for not having health insurance, there are a slew of things I could talk about that are better now. I'll be voting for him again.

Exactly. He was around politicians but wasn't one himself. Why does that give him any advantage in the political world? Your nurse example isn't quite right. Trump had zero political experience, so he wasn't qualified for the position he got. A nurse has medical experience, so would have experience necessary to work through a surgery.

A better example would be: A doctor's financial advisor (Trump) steps in to do a surgery.

Trump was a businessman up to the point he ran for president, he had never done any sort of political profession before then.

Yeah but he saw what needed to be done to better things in the country. We were in turmoil in a lot of minds of Americans. He's just there to make the decisions. If they're bad, he has advisors to tell him so.

Perhaps this analogy... You've watched, as a citizen, surgeries be performed for 40 years. Then you step up to perform a surgery with other doctors around you to tell you what tools you need to find success, and what move comes next.

a reply to: shawmanfromny

Mmmm, on ATS?

We get new doom porn by the minute.

Isn't it a bit hypocritical to suggest that there's something awry in using the phrase "the end of the world"?

originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: TinySickTears

I dont think anyone thinks you support her, more like you got a huge TDS boner.

Trump Derangement Syndrome?

He doesn't seem to be deranged about Trump at all. If anything, he seems to denigrate Trump a little, rather than being sycophantically enamored of him, like you appear to be.

a reply to: narrator

I know right, why do people make up memes with things she’s never said when you have so much material with her actual quotes?

Maybe if I’m bored tonight il make one with her crazy eyes picture with the caption” the world is going to end in 12 years”.

originally posted by: Quantumgamer1776
a reply to: narrator

I know right, why do people make up memes with things she’s never said when you have so much material with her actual quotes?

Maybe if I’m bored tonight il make one with her crazy eyes picture with the caption” the world is going to end in 12 years”.

That, I'd be fine with. Criticize her for mistakes she makes, don't make up crap just to try to make her sound bad. That's pretty immature.

Although to be fair, she was just paraphrasing scientists when she said that.

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: narrator

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: narrator
a reply to: shawmanfromny

So...she gets upset, occasionally says things that aren't factually accurate, doesn't care what others think of her, and doesn't have a lot of political experience...

But yet it's scary to you that a lot of Democrats would consider her for president when she becomes legally eligible?

That description sounds EXACTLY like Trump. You're scared of someone exactly like Trump, but the progressive version of him, becoming president.

That makes me chuckle.

I didn't know Cortez was a successful billionaire with decades of experience in business. I'll be damned.

I never said she was. And that has nothing to do with my argument, therefore, strawman.

To the point: Her political description is exactly the same as Trump's. The only differences are age, gender, and what side of the aisle they lean towards.

And the majority on ATS seem genuinely scared of her (why else would people come up with every reason to put her down?), yet they laud Trump for acting the exact same way.

It's an interesting thing to watch.

Trump has been around politics for 50 years, he just never became a politician. He went straight from businessman to president. Cortez is working her way up the same way all of our corrupt politicians do.

Are all politicians corrupt, though?

Some of them work really hard for their constituents and leave good jobs behind to serve the public good. But, hey, you don't get to be a billionaire by being a politician.



Billionaires are never corrupt. Especially the ones who have owned casino's, and associate with, and employ, dodgy felonious lawyers, and have to pay off porn stars, and seem to spend a lot of their time under suspicion in court, and lie outrageously, changing their story each time they are caught out. Nup, not them.

They all work for each other on both sides. Since Bush Sr., we haven't had a president from either party that was in it for the people. Trump is the first one since Reagan. Cortez is nothing like that. She appeals to radicals and people ignorant enough to think socialism would be successful in a country 330 million strong where a little over half are paying taxes.

I find it hard to believe that anyone in scared of her, a lot of other democrats don't even like her and the same goes for Americans.

Aren't some Democrats American?

originally posted by: blueman12
Trump has said crazier sh!t than this and became president.

America is being INVADED!

Quick, we have to build that moat!

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: narrator

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: iplay1up2
a reply to: shawmanfromny

I do not know much about this woman, don't care to. I did however see this, and it makes sense.

The timeline Ocasio-Cortez referenced was likely based on a U.N. backed report, released last year, that predicted the consequences of man-made climate change would become irreversible in twelve years if global carbon emissions are not immediately and dramatically reduced.

www.yahoo.com...

The only way to reduce these emissions is by pollution. So either we start banning the environmentalists and keep up our normal human pollution in the atmosphere and let the world continue her weather pattern she's had for billions of years, or we keep trying to go green and clean everything up, thus furthering this global warming theory. The whole thing is irony at its best.

Decisions decisions.

Wait. So in your mind, our options are..
A. Do nothing and let pollution continue uninterrupted
B. Clean everything up "and further the global warming theory"?

What's bad about B? Make the earth cleaner, but in so doing, acknowledge that progressives may have been right?

Well if pollution cools the Earth, why would you do the opposite?

Cleaning up air pollution may strengthen global warming

"Pollution in the atmosphere is having an unexpected consequence, scientists say—it's helping to cool the climate, masking some of the global warming that's occurred so far.

That means efforts worldwide to clean up the air may cause an increase in warming, as well as other climate effects, as this pollution disappears."

The sun's heat, comes in from space and strikes molecules in the atmosphere.

Now, if those molecules were transparent or reflective (in the infrared spectrum - where heat is), they would reflect or refract the heat away, but if they are darker (in the infrared spectrum), like the molecules of pollution are, they absorb the energy.

Now when these heated-up molecules get hot enough, compared to the surrounding atmosphere, they re-emit the heat but it is at a lower frequency of infrared heat than when it came in.

That lower frequency is no longer as penetrative and so the heat does not go back into space, but instead, the solar energy stays trapped inside the atmosphere, making the atmosphere get warmer and warmer.

There is no real limiting mechanism on the temperature (until it gets hot enough to make the molecules incandescent, then the heat has the energy to escape the atmosphere) so once the warming starts, it keeps getting hotter and hotter until it breaks the environment.

This is why pollution is bad and generally leads to global warming (aside from some special and temporary exceptions).

How come no one ever blames the oil companies?

How come i've never seen a politician blame the car companies for not making only electric cars?

Why is the answer alway more taxes on the people?

Anyone else getting tired of this same ole bull#?

PS

Humans don't even cause global warming. These are normal cycles of the sun. Although i wouldn't mind breathing clean air instead of a bunch of car exhaust.

In 12 years! Oh my, better start selling all my # now and forget about everything that matters and enjoy life

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