Flight attendant says overweight passenger forced her to wipe his butt

a reply to: ignorant_ape

Ya got to be kidding me.

Glad I wasn't on that plane.

They have "pretty pictures" to remind peeps of prohibited "luggage"

a reply to: DBCowboy

I didn't know you were a Taiwanese spy passing off as a 'merican.

"I am 1/1024th Sparticus."

Make up your mind -!

a reply to: Muninn

See thats the problem - have enough Nutella and you may not be stuck in a toilet - you'll be stuck to your pants.

hahaha

a reply to: TheConstruKctionofLight

I NEVER go off at Americans about their second amendment.

I believe in the right to defend oneself and the right to possess the tools necessary to do so. I happen to prefer blades to bullets myself, as a matter of safety and versatility, but thats besides the point. Let me make it clear in case there remains any confusion. I support the right of anyone, whether that right is enshrined in law or not, to be armed as they would like, for their own defence from anything, be it the criminals in their government, criminals in the streets, predatory animals, or predatory people of every kind.

I do not believe guns are the problem, and I have said this repeatedly, and will continue to say it. People are the problem with the gun situation in America. People who should not be walking around on the streets because they have conditions which should render them fit to be placed in long term, secure psychiatric care, rather than free to sit at home, scoping out their street, or preparing to enact a mass murder.

I mentioned weapons, because use of force is implied by the title, but none was exerted. Coercion was used, and there is a significant and important difference between these two things. Someone being forced to wipe someone else's without the threat of violence against themselves or another party, is factually and physically impossible. When there is no threat to immediate life or limb, no one has been forced to do anything at all. In this situation the correct term is coercion, because there is no threat except to comparatively unimportant things, like livelihood and earnings. When ones life or immediate physical well being are under threat, thats force. Everything else is a situation that a person with a healthy mindset would rather suffer the consequences of NOT doing, regardless of the stresses that might place on their living circumstances.

It is precisely because I read the article carefully, that I am certain that no force was used or implied by the scumbag in this case, and so use of that word is entirely inappropriate.

originally posted by: KansasGirl
Oh, but do not, do NOT try to take your favorite bottle of body lotion on the plane if it's over 2 ounces! They will tamp down on the sh>t in a heartbeat, thank goodness.

Right?!

How am I supposed to have silky smooth skin with those barbarians confiscating my products?

a reply to: TrueBrit

I mentioned weapons, because use of force is implied by the title, but none was exerted. Coercion was used, and there is a significant and important difference between these two things.

You should read the article again - "she claimedshe was forced to do it"

is coercion, because there is no threat except to comparatively unimportant things, like livelihood and earnings. When ones life or immediate physical well being are under threat, thats force.

Look, this isn't a transcript of court proceedings. You can make all these possible scenarios till the cows come home.

BTW your words...

I mentioned weapons, because use of force is implied by the title, but none was exerted. Coercion was used, and there is a significant and important difference between these two things

There goes that Gish Gallop of yours out the window - pay particular attention to "force" & "coercion"

Coercion(/koʊˈɜːrʒən, -ʃən/) is the practice of forcinganother party to act in an involuntary manner by use of threats or force. ... In law, coercion is codified as a duress crime. Such actions are used as leverage, to force the victim to act in a way contrary to their own interes

from the article - she proceeded to assist him

“I told him we couldn’t help him, but he started yelling. He told me to go in there immediately and threatened to relieve himself on the floor,”

you say

When ones life or immediate physical well being are under threat, thats force.

If someone with a mean face demands your keys at a stop light and you hand over your keys you acquiesced to his demands - even though one may say in retrospect your physical well being was under threat.


www.9news.com.au...

so the complainant and two others reluctantly escorted the man to the bathroom, where he then allegedly told them he would need help removing his underwear.

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: KKLOCO

I always do whatever I can to take care of business before or after a flight. It’s hard enough for me to fit in those bathrooms at 190 pounds — let alone fitting a 439 pound heffer in there.

Same here - I despise public toilets. But it was a Los Angeles-to-Taipei filght -

14h 35m duration

Yeah, I saw the flight length. I’d still hold it in. Those bathrooms are for peeing only.

I’m sure he couldn’t hold it in though — being 440 pounds. The dude probably never stops eating. Time for a fast fatty!

i has a solution :

the morbidly obese // super morbidly obese - should recieve a " pre-flight mechanical bowel evacuation " before they are allowed to board aircraft - then no food

in the interest of staff sanity - the evacuation would be done by a robot arm

problem solved

This loser was looking for an excuse to be a perv. That or he was drunk maybe? There is no way I would've wiped his backside. People these days just keep getting crazier.

I imagine it was their livelihood that was threatened, not their physical lives. Either way it's a disgusting, personally humiliating, and unsanitary situation. I guess the FAA has no Biohazard regulations for such circumstances...

originally posted by: KMY14
This loser was looking for an excuse to be a perv.

Pretty much the case because he also asked to have the door left open while he took a dump in the first class cabin (where he wasn't seated). There's a picture of this fat slob over at Flyertalk.com and he is about as disgusting as they come.