If food stamps run out will there be riots?

originally posted by: ApacheHelicopetr

originally posted by: highvein

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: toysforadults
45 million people right, you guys totally under estimate the economy right now we are headed into really dark territory

We had better build a wall to keep those undesirables out, or in, or at least just away...

The vast majority of US citizens already have that.

We call them homes.

If people get desperate enough those homes will not be safe they will be targets.

Not for the homes that believe in gun rights. It will be target practice.

DeJohn and Lebron in the Ghetto also have guns.

Those starving rioters will be armed too.

Seriously? How about Juan, and Julio, or Tim, and Mike, or Zhang Wei, and Li Wei? you sound a bit ignorant and racist when you don't include the whole melting pot, this is America.....

a reply to: soundguy

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From your source. More people find that they lean toward the left.


6,878 find that they are more toward the left out of 11,659.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Riots have already happened, and people still had food stamps.

Riots can happen over anything that gets blown out of proportion.

Just look to history for example after example.

If riots occur, it will be because one side or another, took advantage of the situation and distorted the facts, for gain.

Seems these days people are looking for an excuse to be offended, to riot, or create further division rather than solutions.

Riots don't solve anything, never fixed anything and never will. Riots and those who do such, are the epitome of being apart of the the problem, not the solution.

There is a disconnect between society and the individuals who are apart of it.

We don't interact at a personal level one on one, face to face any more. Before internet in the palm of our hands, we had to ride our bikes around and see who's house the other bikes were at.

That's how we networked.

That's how we did things before texting.

There's nothing wrong with today's immersive digital society, until it becomes a dependency rather than a convenience or luxury.


Online interaction was not suppose to be a replacement for real life.

But that's how the younger generation has grown-up. In the digital age of social media and instant gratification.

So who's wrong, them for not knowing better, or us for enabling it to develop?

originally posted by: JAGStorm
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I hope if this shutdown has taught Americans anything, it is to plan ahead, to not rely on the government. I do however have sympathy for anyone that experiences the ill effects caused by the shutdown.

What about the people who have suffered, and those who will suffer because democrats/liberals now don't want to build the wall?

What about all the criminals, and drugs that will cross the southern border into the U.S. and will cause suffering and crime to continue and to increase?... Yet democrats/liberals don't want to try to stop this...

What about the people who have been killed, and the agony of their surviving families, and those who will be killed because "democrats/liberals" don't want to help build the wall?...

originally posted by: ketsuko
Not much can be done until the Democrats are ready to talk turkey.

i.e. not much can be done until Democrats fully cave to all of Trump's demands.

The sad thing in this thread is the utter lack of empathy that I am now regularly connecting with those on the right, and right now, Trump supporters. Apparently everyone who has food stamps is trash. They are lazy, spend it on tobacco, and don't deserve it. What a sad view. There are many who are just victim to bad circumstances. But hey.. let's just lump them all together as "lazy losers" and not worry about their sad fates.

In the U.S., welfare benefits pale in comparison to other countries. Sort of like our benefits to employees does as well (being pregnant in the U.S. is a dire thing, compared to other countries). But even then, we spit and look down on those less fortunate. Mind, I know there are cases of lazy people who would rather take welfare than work. That's sad but true as well - but you can't paint them all with the same brush and just not worry about it.

The the saddest thing living in this country now - the empathy for fellow humans is at an all time low. Dog eat dog, every man for himself, if you fall on hard times, screw you, you are fodder.

a reply to: fleabit


I agree, somehow insidiously we have found ourselves in a Fascist state, with the politics of the extreme playing out. Changing the situation wont be easy as nobody relinquishes power easily.

a reply to: fleabit

The IRONY is amazing!

Apparently everyone who has food stamps is trash.

I haven't seen anyone say that. But I have seen a lot of people here say that trump supporters are.

They are lazy, spend it on tobacco, and don't deserve it.

Exactly what percentage of my paycheck do other people "deserve" may I ask? That's the problem with the whole welfare system. It's a system of entitlements.

But even then, we spit and look down on those less fortunate.

I find it curious you used "we" here. You do? I don't. I've been there and may be there again some day. That doesn't entitle me to someone else's earnings. But more importantly this "we" you speak of is really a freudian acknowledgement of how you and most leftists feel about those of a lower class than you (whether that's education level or income or some other barometer). This contempt you feel towards those of lower classes shines through in how the left talks about trump supporters. Poor, trash, racist, hate filled, scum, nazi's, etc.
Nevermind that the data shows that clinton overwhelmingly won counties with high poverty rates (she won all of the counties where the poverty rate was above 25%).
Nevermind that of the 55 counties with average credit scores above 720, trump won 51 of them while clinton won all of the counties with a credit score averaging below 600.
The only "superiority" clinton voters had was education levels.
Yes, the people who spent their money on college degrees LOVED Clinton.
People who who learned a skill, got a job, and paid their bills, LOVED Trump.

The the saddest thing living in this country now - the empathy for fellow humans is at an all time low.

Here's the kicker. You (maybe not specifically you, just generally) think I voted for trump because I'm a hate filled racist bigot who is dumber than bricks and doesn't realize a wall doesn't work, because I'm stupid.

I (and all of the conservatives I know and have conversed with online) pity you guys who voted for clinton and buy what the media sells (fear mongering). I try my hardest to help as many of you see the light, as I can. Yet, when I engage with those on the left I get called all of the most terrible things they can think of. I get threatened (I have never once, in my entire life, threatened someone on the internet, it's really a weird thing to do). I get told they hope I die. They hope my family dies. All for having a different opinion from the indoctrination devices.

Dog eat dog, every man for himself, if you fall on hard times, screw you, you are fodder.

There are many ways to provide and get help, other than government. I donate to multiple charities each year. I have volunteered to help troubled youth. I have done projects to help children in impoverished areas. I have helped troubled teens. I'm just one person, but if everyone who was able was also willing, we wouldn't need the government to "provide" a safety net at all (I'll admit, that's pretty utopian). My point is, there is a lot of love and empathy on the political right. If you don't see it you aren't looking for it. There used to be a lot of love and empathy on the political left, too. But it is getting much harder to find and I do look for it.

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

I'm of the opposite mind. If the food stamps go, we're going to see america at her best. You'll see an outpouring of love and compassion, time and food from the people of this country. No one is going to let their neighbors starve because they were on food stamps. In fact, the dems would be stupid to let this happen (food stamps go unfunded). It would blow a hole a mile wide in their platform of reliance on government.

a reply to: ketsuko

In missouri, people got 2 months at once. No rationing needed, they still the same amount per month, just jan and feb were both loaded on the card at the same time. So if you normally got 500, you got 1000 etc.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: fleabit


I agree, somehow insidiously we have found ourselves in a Fascist state, with the politics of the extreme playing out. Changing the situation wont be easy as nobody relinquishes power easily.

You seem to be completely oblivious to what a "fascist state" means... Not to mention that the first 2 fascist states were socialists who also ran under the "let's make a welfare state" type mentality...

Obama was a fascist when he decided to pass laws without the approval of Congress... But hey, as long as it is to pave the "socialist/liberal/globalist agenda" of "making people poorer because of the false religion that AGW is, it is well and dandy...

originally posted by: fleabit
The sad thing in this thread is the utter lack of empathy that I am now regularly connecting with those on the right, and right now, Trump supporters. Apparently everyone who has food stamps is trash. They are lazy, spend it on tobacco, and don't deserve it. What a sad view. There are many who are just victim to bad circumstances. But hey.. let's just lump them all together as "lazy losers" and not worry about their sad fates.

In the U.S., welfare benefits pale in comparison to other countries. Sort of like our benefits to employees does as well (being pregnant in the U.S. is a dire thing, compared to other countries). But even then, we spit and look down on those less fortunate. Mind, I know there are cases of lazy people who would rather take welfare than work. That's sad but true as well - but you can't paint them all with the same brush and just not worry about it.

The the saddest thing living in this country now - the empathy for fellow humans is at an all time low. Dog eat dog, every man for himself, if you fall on hard times, screw you, you are fodder.

That might be a down side of mulitculturalism.....

People may feel empathy for their fellow citizen, but when their is a melting pot, some might feel less empathy for Paco and Omar who just arrived and use many services, but no not contribute anything back.

originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: FormOfTheLord

I'm of the opposite mind. If the food stamps go, we're going to see america at her best. You'll see an outpouring of love and compassion, time and food from the people of this country. No one is going to let their neighbors starve because they were on food stamps. In fact, the dems would be stupid to let this happen (food stamps go unfunded). It would blow a hole a mile wide in their platform of reliance on government.

This may be the fall of capitalism, some conspiricy advocates believe it has been in the works for some time now.
I remember the we are the 99% movement but it didnt take off.
I also remember reading about agenda 21 which fits well into the fall of what we consider to be our society.

a reply to: queenofswords

Churches and food banks will be depleted fast with that many people without food.

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

The fall of capitalism?

Hardly...it's been around since barter & trade.

In fact the only way I ever see capitalism being replaced, is if corrupt politicians continue to push their agenda via ClowardPiven & Alinsky tactics.

That is the threat we face as an economy.
In the 80s when I was growing up, my elders warned of the communist threat.

Today what they warned about, is what we see going on every day.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse


The definition of a fascist state is where Government and corporations run things for themselves. The desires of the people are irrelevant. That's about where we are at now. Greater numbers are excluded from partaking in the economy. Its no longer a Capitalist society.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Food Stamps will never run out... until those who pay for them say no longer. Unfortunately those who pay for foodstamps are too cowardly to finally say no more.

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

Ok...?

I have a bad feeling that when the money runs out someone will have the brainstorm to take the money from social security. Why not put even more people in distress and make them dependent while you can?

Well prepping may be the way to go, however I believe that the powers that be may have an agenda of wealth redistribution which may be the solution to the problem of multitudes without the basic needs to survive in the modern world.

Agenda 21 and the Sustainable Development Goals of 2030 basically promote communim as well as socialism as the path forward.

A closed mouth doesnt get fed so the idea may be to make people hungry again so they could roll out sweeping reforms.

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