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originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
Well it seems that Trump has voiced that he would like to take the USA out of NATO.
I think that he wants Europe to tow their own line or take care of themselves.
originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
a reply to: Peeple
Your defense is the handout. As agreed upon, all NATO countries are required to contribute 2% of their GDP. Germany doesn't hold up their end of the deal, yet is still defended by NATO, which in turn is a handout. Sad I have to point this out, but hey maybe you're the only one misinformed.
originally posted by: moebius
originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
a reply to: Peeple
Your defense is the handout. As agreed upon, all NATO countries are required to contribute 2% of their GDP. Germany doesn't hold up their end of the deal, yet is still defended by NATO, which in turn is a handout. Sad I have to point this out, but hey maybe you're the only one misinformed.
Quit spewing that trumpist nonsense. The 2% spending is an agreed upon goal, not a requirement.
There is a direct NATO budget of about 1.5 billion $, shared by all member countries. But besides that the US pays nothing. So stop with the BS already.
With NATO or without you would still be spending your 4% to keep your military industry going. Don't blame NATO for that.
In 2006, NATO Defence Ministers agreed to commit a minimum of two per cent of their Gross Domestic Product (GDP) to spending on defence. This guideline principally serves as an indicator of a country’s political will to contribute to the Alliance’s common defence efforts. Some Allies may need to spend more than this to develop the capabilities that the Alliance asks of them. Additionally, the defence capacity of each member country has an important impact on the overall perception of the Alliance’s credibility as a politico-military organisation.
The Ukraine incident has shown what complete miserable empty failure it is anyways.
originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Middleoftheroad
How am I misinformed? I outright told you Germay has no interest in spending more on wars and that you should kick us out of that cold war relict nobody needs or wants anymore,
What was the last thing that came from NATO? Saber rattling as close to Russia as they could get. No thanks we don't need that. At least the public doesn't.
Russia is your imaginary enemy not ours. There has been nothing of value coming from NATO for years on a diplomatic level and it was from the beginning a tool of the US to widen their sphere of influence. End it that's fine.
The Ukraine incident has shown what complete miserable empty failure it is anyways.
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Please read my comment below yours.
Also, keep in mind that Russia has a GDP less than Texas.
They are the patsy that can enable the world to overlook the threat of China until it is too late.
That is the most intelligent thing that has been posted here in quite some time.
They make "1984" look like it already happened decades ago.
We actually need Russia to contain China.
We actually need Russia to contain China.
originally posted by: Peeple
How am I misinformed? I outright told you Germay has no interest in spending more on wars and that you should kick us out of that cold war relict nobody needs or wants anymore,