State of Virginia Eyes Gun Grab

a reply to: chris_stibrany

Oooh, "gun grabbers". Sounds like a risky pastime.

Obviously the only true defense is to kill these people before they even consider defending the peacefulopposing the armed.

We must all be cowed by the biggest bully with the most armaments! Sucks if these "gun grabbers" don't realize that.

LOL

a reply to: chr0naut

What are the laws in Mordor, Zealandia? Like Australia?

originally posted by: toms54
a reply to: chr0naut

What are the laws in Mordor, Zealandia? Like Australia?

No, we have legal gun ownership by registration of guns and their owners.

Registration is via the police and it is mandatory that you attend a safety course and pass a written exam.

After passing the exam, you have to go through a personal interview with a Gun Safety Officer where you have to answer a large book-load of personal and intense questions about drug use, alcohol consumption, domestic situation and general mental health. The interviewer will also check your gun-safe and separate ammo-safe to ensure they meet specifications.

Guns in transit between range, gunsmith, hunting grounds, police station and home must be in a locked container.

They will also ask why you need a gun (for 'home or personal protection' will get you rejected. About the only legitimate answers are hunting, target shooting or animal control/farm purposes).

Only when all the legal prerequisites are complete can you acquire a gun.

Violation of gun laws relating to storage, transport or sales can result in a criminal conviction.

Also, 'Arms Officers' have been known to do spot-check unscheduled visits to ensure that legal compliance is maintained.

Handguns and 'military style semi-automatics' are severely restricted. These types of guns are rare, very hard to obtain and very-very expensive.

Gun ownership, with requirements for special safes, club memberships, club activities and certifications is a significant financial outlay, another thing that limits proliferation.

a reply to: Ahabstar

a reply to: chr0naut

Do you guys ask criminals to hold up and wait a sec so you can unlock your gun...then unlock ammo...then load it...before resuming the robbery/rape/murdering?

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: toms54
a reply to: chr0naut

What are the laws in Mordor, Zealandia? Like Australia?

No, we have legal gun ownership by registration of guns and their owners.

Registration is via the police and it is mandatory that you attend a safety course and pass a written exam.

After passing the exam, you have to go through a personal interview with a Gun Safety Officer where you have to answer a large book-load of personal and intense questions about drug use, alcohol consumption, domestic situation and general mental health. The interviewer will also check your gun-safe and separate ammo-safe to ensure they meet specifications.

Guns in transit between range, gunsmith, hunting grounds, police station and home must be in a locked container.

They will also ask why you need a gun (for 'home or personal protection' will get you rejected. About the only legitimate answers are hunting, target shooting or animal control/farm purposes).

Only when all the legal prerequisites are complete can you acquire a gun.

Violation of gun laws relating to storage, transport or sales can result in a criminal conviction.

Also, 'Arms Officers' have been known to do spot-check unscheduled visits to ensure that legal compliance is maintained.

Handguns and 'military style semi-automatics' are severely restricted. These types of guns are rare, very hard to obtain and very-very expensive.

Gun ownership, with requirements for special safes, club memberships, club activities and certifications is a significant financial outlay, another thing that limits proliferation.

What you describe....all the hoops you must contort through to "legally" own , transport and use your firearm is what all of us 2nd amendment advocates fear .

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: projectvxn

originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: Ahabstar
There will come a time when things become how shall we say...proactive. It will be a bad day to be a Democrat on that day.

and there is no doubt in my mind that many people want that proactive day to come.
100%

The only people who want it are the gun grabbers. They seem to be itching for a fight they won't win.

if you say so

it is my opinion that a great many of you right wing gun types want # to go down

youre not going to convince me otherwise so dont bother trying

Many right wingers think abortion is murder.
Everyone has an opinion

Abortion is murder, it’s not an opinion.

Good for them, it’s about time the mentally defective gun fetishists are dealt with. Repeal and replace the 2nd. It’s long past time. a reply to: chris_stibrany

originally posted by: RickyD
a reply to: chr0naut

Do you guys ask criminals to hold up and wait a sec so you can unlock your gun...then unlock ammo...then load it...before resuming the robbery/rape/murdering?

The same laws that disarm me, disarm them.

Besides, I can defend myself without a gun.

originally posted by: conspiracytheoristIAM

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: toms54
a reply to: chr0naut

What are the laws in Mordor, Zealandia? Like Australia?

No, we have legal gun ownership by registration of guns and their owners.

Registration is via the police and it is mandatory that you attend a safety course and pass a written exam.

After passing the exam, you have to go through a personal interview with a Gun Safety Officer where you have to answer a large book-load of personal and intense questions about drug use, alcohol consumption, domestic situation and general mental health. The interviewer will also check your gun-safe and separate ammo-safe to ensure they meet specifications.

Guns in transit between range, gunsmith, hunting grounds, police station and home must be in a locked container.

They will also ask why you need a gun (for 'home or personal protection' will get you rejected. About the only legitimate answers are hunting, target shooting or animal control/farm purposes).

Only when all the legal prerequisites are complete can you acquire a gun.

Violation of gun laws relating to storage, transport or sales can result in a criminal conviction.

Also, 'Arms Officers' have been known to do spot-check unscheduled visits to ensure that legal compliance is maintained.

Handguns and 'military style semi-automatics' are severely restricted. These types of guns are rare, very hard to obtain and very-very expensive.

Gun ownership, with requirements for special safes, club memberships, club activities and certifications is a significant financial outlay, another thing that limits proliferation.

What you describe....all the hoops you must contort through to "legally" own , transport and use your firearm is what all of us 2nd amendment advocates fear .

If guns were doing such a great defensive job, why are all the gun nuts over there so fearful?

Think of it this way, its almost impossible for me to be shot, ever.

a reply to: soundguy

High time that third amendment bites it. Shock troops need to be garrisoned in your house for your protection and the protection of others. It is just as outdated of an idea, by the same people no less, that prevents that, right?

originally posted by: Ahabstar
There will come a time when things become how shall we say...proactive. It will be a bad day to be a Democrat on that day. Yeah, there are laws against that sort of thing, but they won’t mean a damn to those affected and feel inflicted upon.

Luckily for the government, they already have lists of all the potentials using nice tools such as ATS and other similar aggregators.

And every once in a while you just have to make a really inflammatory thread or reply and see who sticks out.

a reply to: Mahogany

Yep

But as was pointed out by another member. Warning someone that they are about to step in it with both feet is a whole different thing than putting it down and forcing them to walk through it.

On a personal note, numerous alphabet agencies are well aware of who I am and what services I have provided for their benefit. I have nothing to fear as I am listed as a good guy.

a reply to: chr0naut

Yea most people who have malicious intent generally don't act on it because laws prevent it...

originally posted by: RickyD
a reply to: chr0naut

Yea most people who have malicious intent generally don't act on it because laws prevent it...

Do you think that if you are armed it is going to stop someone with malicious intent from shooting you in the back of the head?

I like my chances of personal survivability better if neither of us is armed.

a reply to: chr0naut

I do not think that being armed will stop someone intent on harming another. I do know however, that criminals do not tend to follow laws...hence them being criminals in the first place. I also know if you are confronted with a prepared attacker out of no where your chances of surviving are vastly greater with a firearm than without one. I mean your chances of surviving someone as you said wanting to shoot you in the back of the head are 0%...mine would at least be above that...

Any gun with a magazine that carries 10 or more rounds?
That is MOST modern pistols and many rifles.
everybody can have a revolver until we decide that's too dangerous for you to have.
Northam sucks and he's my governor.
Tim Kaine was another.
Why do we get the worst after CA and NY?

originally posted by: chr0naut

Besides, I can defend myself without a gun.

Good for you.
What about women, disabled and otherwise weak people who cannot?
Do they get personal guards?
If we have no right to defend our selves, no other rights matter.
You are used to that idea, Americans are not and hopefully never will be.

originally posted by: Asktheanimals

originally posted by: chr0naut

Besides, I can defend myself without a gun.

Good for you.
What about women, disabled and otherwise weak people who cannot?
Do they get personal guards?
If we have no right to defend our selves, no other rights matter.
You are used to that idea, Americans are not and hopefully never will be.

No, the good people of a fair society come to their defense.

a reply to: chr0naut
No, they peek through the curtains while calling the police -
If you are lucky.
If you have neighbors.
If they notice.
and if they care.
Do you live in a commune by any chance?