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What’s More Probable...Alien Disclosure...Or An Alien “Bug” Wiping Out Humanity?

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posted on Dec, 31 2018 @ 07:38 PM
I’ve been interested in UFOs since the late 60’s and remember all the cool shows back then that sparked my interest: Star Trek, The Outer Limits, Lost In Space, Dr. Who, UFO and Space:1999. I hope that I’m still alive, when either alien disclosure is revealed, or a world wide UFO/Alien event takes place somewhere on this planet. Sure, I know there are skeptics who view this as wishful folly and who point out that there is no solid, concrete evidence that alien visitation has ever occurred. However, I’m a believer that there is proof hidden away from the public eye and perhaps one day, undisputed evidence will be forthcoming.

One thing that I’ve often considered is the possibility that “alien” organisms have already visited our planet...and continue to arrive, unnoticed.


Panspermia hypotheses propose (for example) that microscopic life-forms that can survive the effects of space (such as extremophiles) can become trapped in debris ejected into space after collisions between planets and small Solar System bodies that harbor life. Some organisms may travel dormant for an extended amount of time before colliding randomly with other planets or intermingling with protoplanetary disks. Under certain ideal impact circumstances (into a body of water, for example), and ideal conditions on a new planet's surfaces, it is possible that the surviving organisms could become active and begin to colonize their new environment.

I'm sure there are people who believe that any type of "alien" organism would be incinerated when it encountered Earth's atmosphere. However...

Bacteria riding on an incoming meteorite may be able to survive the violent shockwave created when it crash-lands on a planet. Their cell walls have been seen to rapidly harden and relax after a sudden shock compression, enabling them to bounce back even after an extreme collision.

Microbes can withstand extreme environments on Earth, including the crushing pressure of the deep ocean or deep beneath the ground. This suggests that life forms could thrive on distant worlds in similar high-pressure environments.

Hazael found that the microbes not only survived short blasts of pressure, but went on to reproduce in colonies. On Earth prior to and during the Late Heavy Bombardment 3.8 billion years ago, when the planet was hammered by meteorites, this type of bacteria could have not only survived but thrived.

This also means that bacteria might survive a spacecraft landing – or even crashing – on other planets. That would lend weight to the panspermia theory, in which comets or meteorites could potentially deliver life to otherwise sterile planets.


Extremophiles are organisms that have been discovered on earth that survive in environments that were once thought not to be able to sustain life. These extreme environments include intense heat, highly acidic environments, extreme pressure and extreme cold. Different organisms have developed varying ways of adapting to these environments, but most scientists agree that it is unlikely that life on Earth originated under such extremes.

A thermophile is an organism—a type of extremophile—that thrives at relatively high temperatures, between 41 and 122°C (106 and 25°F).

The bacteria and archaea found in Kamchatka – and in other hot springs around the world – have unique adaptations that allow them to thrive at high temperatures.

A new microbe, for now called “Strain 121”, has since been discovered in a thermal vent deep in the Pacific Ocean. The microbe thrives at 121C and there are claims that it can even survive for two hours at 130C.

The conditions in Kamchatka also closely mirror those seen on some alien worlds in our solar system. If microbes can survive in hot springs here on Earth, on a diet of chemical energy from volcanoes, perhaps they could exist on other planets too.

So, my question is...could an alien organism, that arrived on the debris from a disintegrating comet or meteorite, cause an epidemic, or even a pandemic on our planet? One thing that most people don't even realize is the sheer amount of space rock and dust that falls on our planet each day. It really is quite astonishing:

Every day, bits of outer space rain down on the Earth. Leftover from our solar system’s birth 4.6 billion years ago, cosmic dust is pulled into our atmosphere as the planet passes through decayed comet tails and other regions of chunky space rock. Occasionally, it arrives on Earth in the form of visible shooting stars.

[A] recent paper took a closer look at the levels of sodium and iron in the atmosphere using Doppler Lidar, an instrument that can measure changes in the composition of the atmosphere. Because the amount of sodium in the atmosphere is proportional to the amount of cosmic dust in the atmosphere, the researchers figured out that the actual amount of dust falling to the earth is along the lines of 60 tons per day.

So what's the probability of an alien organism arriving on this planet unscathed, with the potential of causing a disease outbreak on our planet?

Interplanetary contamination is still of great concern to scientists today.

Mostly, they worry about single-celled, microscopic organisms, such as bacteria, some fungi, and viruses - or whatever the alien version of single-celled life looks like. We know for certain that bacteria and viruses can survive exposure to the harsh conditions of space long enough to hitch a ride to someplace more hospitable.

Extraterrestrial microbes might thrive in Earth’s environment, and they might out-compete many Earth microbes, just like today’s terrestrial invasive species — which are problematic enough without help from other worlds.

But humans aren’t the only ones in danger. Extraterrestrial microbes could rapidly wipe out Earth’s other animal species, plants, and microbes.Text That might actually be a more horrific scenario: humanity survives, but all the animals and plants we depend on for sustenance die off, or all the microbes that play such a vital role in our environment are displaced by alien microbes that don’t fill the same roles. There’s probably an excellent post-apocalyptic novel waiting to be built around that scenario.

Has this "extraterrestrial" danger already made itself known?

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posted on Dec, 31 2018 @ 07:38 PM

Unfortunately, those same scientists believe that alien bacteria and viruses may still be raining down on us. These microscopic invaders have been blamed for all sorts of illnesses—from the everyday to the completely bizarre.


Discovered by French scientists in 2013, this bizarrely unique microorganism is only found in two places on Earth: off the coast of Chile and in a single Australian pond. It shares only 6 percent of its genetic makeup with the rest of life on Earth. This has led many to the conclusion that it isn’t actually native to Earth. It may seem silly, but researchers are seriously investigating the possibility that the Pandoravirus is alien in origin.


Bizarre microorganisms called prions are responsible for the infection, and some believe that their strangeness isn’t just coincidence.Researchers in India recently announced that the brain-attacking microbes may have come from a passing comet. The frozen balls of space dust have been found to contain chemical structures very similar to prions and other microorganisms.


Called Spanish flu, this disease infected one-third of the Earth’s population and claimed roughly 20 million lives. It was a uniquely deadly strain of a common virus, and English astronomer Sir Fred Hoyle had a theory as to why.
Comets, he thought, deposited frozen alien viruses into the atmosphere. They were then blasted down to the Earth’s surface by energy generated by sunspot activity. This activity peaks every 11 years, pushing more of the tiny invaders to ground level.
Convincingly, this 11-year cycle was shared by all global flu outbreaks for over 250 years, meaning that the Spanish flu disaster may have been Earth’s first large-scale alien invasion.


Ashley Dale of England’s Bristol University had a theory. Millions of years ago, he thought, the Ebola virus may have arrived on Earth from a meteorite collision. Citing evidence that microscopic life-forms have been shown to survive the vacuum of space, he believes that alien rocks would have made the perfect vehicle.


The sudden appearance of such a uniquely deadly disease gave many people, including scientists at England’s Cardiff Centre for Astrobiology, cause to wonder where it had come from. The scientists suspected that virus filled space dust could have drifted down through the atmosphere and landed east of the Himalayas, where the stratosphere is at its thinnest.
Then these microbes would have started infecting the locals, whose immune systems would have been defenseless against the alien germs. The theory, while bizarre, accounts for the strangely sudden outbreak and deadliness of the virus.


Responsible for AIDS, HIV is one of the most feared viruses on the planet. However, Chandra Wickramasinghe, a professor at England’s Buckingham Centre for Astrobiology, believes it’s more than just scary. He thinks it’s alien.
Wickramasinghe and his team believe that superviruses like HIV are constantly being introduced to the Earth by comet collisions. They even believe that one such virus may have been the real cause of the dinosaurs’ extinction.
No terrestrial virus, they argue, could be responsible for such devastation. In the case of HIV, they feel that it was probably a dormant Earth virus which absorbed strands of alien genetic material and became deadly.


For years, this mysterious ailment has plagued people around the world. Skin crawling sensations lead to bizarre fibers growing from the victim’s flesh. Rotting teeth and sleeplessness are also symptoms. Most troubling, though, is that testing of the odd strings reveal that they have no cellular structure and can’t be identified as any known material.
Theories abound about this horrifying illness, with many convinced that it doesn’t come from Earth at all. Some even believe that it could be the result of alien parasites that rode in on the Genesis space probe, which crashed in the Utah desert in 2004.


Something to think about on this New Year’s Eve. Have a happy New Year everyone!
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posted on Dec, 31 2018 @ 07:42 PM
Without even reading you post yet I will have to say, without a doubt, the bug. What if it is an alien bug and they have to disclose it. Then it would be both at the same time

posted on Dec, 31 2018 @ 07:48 PM
a reply to: shawmanfromny

A well thought out OP. Cudos!

I was going to bring up the Spanish Flu and Ebola incidents and you added them with an edit.

The cynical part of me would point out that we have taken the time and energy to so pollute our own bodies that we are probably not considered very good hosts anymore... cancer still on the upswing!

You have given me pause for thought tonight and now I want to research 50 different things related.

Thank you so much for your time and effort and S&F.

And happy New Years of course!!!

posted on Dec, 31 2018 @ 08:00 PM
around 202 they will probably bring home a surprise!!

If all goes according to plan, two spacecraft will commence close encounters of the curious kind with two separate asteroids by the end of August. Their goal: to retrieve samples that may contain organic materials dating back to the solar system’s birth.

Hayabusa2 and OSIRIS-REx are not scheduled to return to Earth until 2020 and 2023, respectively, but the payoff will almost certainly be worth the wait.

posted on Dec, 31 2018 @ 08:04 PM

Highly unlikely, but more likely.

posted on Dec, 31 2018 @ 08:04 PM
a reply to: SeaWorthy

That has already been done, but then again there was this movie and the remake.

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posted on Dec, 31 2018 @ 08:39 PM
A proper Above Top Secret topic, bravo and S&F

posted on Dec, 31 2018 @ 09:31 PM
Excellent thread.
Proper ATS fare.

Hapoy Ndew Year everyone

posted on Dec, 31 2018 @ 10:04 PM
I'm not sure about an "Alien bug" but I still believe Ebola will wipe out 100 million+ some day

posted on Dec, 31 2018 @ 11:05 PM
Ah, Panspermia, one of my favorites. It's most definitely gonna be bugs that show up first ( or already showed up)

it has been proven that planets in our own solar system can and do trade material.

Now add to this fact with the next fact that microorganisms have been proven to be able to survive in space. I invite the reader to follow a few ideas an make up your own mind.

First lets' Consider a couple types of panspermia :

Ballistic Panspermia is the idea that microorganisms are spread within our own solar system via rocks blasted off the surface of planetary bodies and travelling to neighboring bodies and “ the microorganisms survive (1) the impact ejection process from the planet of origin; (2) traveling through the solar system; (3) landing on a planet within the same solar system.”
Lithopanspermia is a very similar idea to Ballistic panspermia but differs in the distance the microorganism –bearing rocks travel, instead of traveling within our own solar system Lithopanspermia hypothesizes a much longer trip in time and distance between solar systems, and states that for this to work “ the microorganisms survive (1) the impact ejection process from the planet of origin; (2) travelling through space; (3) landing on a planet in another solar system.”

OK. so the little buggers need to be able to survive an extended trip through space.

Possible? Yes.

Now consider our little friends the Tardigrades ( water bears)

It is widely known from several hundred years of observations that some lichens can survive long periods of time (even 100 years) without water in a completely dehydrated state. Tardigrades, microscopic multicellular animals also known as Water Bears happen to live on lichens, and are also known to survive long periods of time (again at least 100 years, maybe longer) in a dehydrated state referred to as anhydrobiosis. They shrink into a little bead called a "Tun" and stay dormant untill conditions improve.
A detailed analasys of the Tardigrade’s dehydrated state can be found on the PLOS ONE website in the article “Desiccation Tolerance in the Tardigrade Richtersius coronifer Relies on Muscle Mediated Structural Reorganization.” ( )

Recognition of this remarkable ability led to a recent experiment that demonstrated the Tardigrade can survive an anhydrated state in open space.

YES, I said open space.

In 2007 on an ESA mission Tardigrades were exposed to open space, and SURVIVED.

“The dried-up tardigrades were aboard the FOTON-M3 spacecraft launched by the European Space Agency (ESA) in September 2007 and were exposed to open space conditions” “After their safe return to Earth, it turned out that while most of them survived exposure to vacuum and cosmic rays alone, some had even survived the exposure to the deadly levels of solar UV radiation”.
(Cell Press. (2008, September 9). 'Water Bears' Able To Survive Exposure To Vacuum Of Space. ScienceDaily. Retrieved May 6, 2014 from

That experiment, if I recall correctly, lasted several days, with the water bears OUTSIDE the spacecraft, and a significant number of them survived.

If one remembers the phrase "life will find a way"

So yeah, I"m going with the bugz. oh, and Happy New Year, west coast USA, I have another 3 hours to midnight
edit on 12/31/2018 by Lr103 because: grammatical errors

posted on Jan, 1 2019 @ 01:07 AM
a reply to: shawmanfromny
This is what happens when prominent* fans of evolutionary philosophies present their imaginations, entertainment and pseudoscience as actual science. *: prominent within the so-called "scientific community" (admired by many of their collegues). The evolutionary philosophy that I'm specifically referring to is called "the chemical evolution theory of life" a.k.a. abiogenesis (but then starting somewhere else than on earth), which is connected to this philosophy/idea of panspermia. All in an effort to tiptoe around a conclusion which the ruler of this system of things (the one pulling the strings of humanity) does not want anyone to seriously consider. Programming 101.

The prevailing theory is that the universe originated in a huge explosion​—a “big bang”—​and that the radiation all around is a faint glow from that fireball explosion.

‘But what bearing does this have on the question of whether there is intelligent life out there?’ you may wonder.

This discovery of this radiation, for which Penzias and Wilson won the Nobel Prize, convinced many scientists that there was an instant of creation. Noted astronomer Dr. Robert Jastrow explains: “Consider the enormity of the problem. Science has proved that the Universe exploded into being at a certain moment. It asks, What cause produced this effect? Who or what put the matter and energy into the Universe?”

Jastrow and many other scientists grasp the implication: “Now we see how the astronomical evidence leads to a biblical view of the origin of the world. The details differ, but the essential elements in the astronomical and biblical accounts of Genesis are the same: the chain of events leading to man commenced suddenly and sharply at a definite moment in time, in a flash of light and energy.”

But the Bible does more than ask ‘Who put matter and energy into the Universe?’ It points to the reasonable answer​—the Creator, God. And consistent with Einstein’s discovery that energy and matter are interconvertible, the Bible testifies that the Creator is a source of tremendous “dynamic energy.”​—Gen. 1:1; Ps. 90:2; Isa. 40:26-29.

Jastrow concludes: “For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.”​—God and the Astronomers.

Yet there really is nothing bad about coming to accept the evidence of a Creator. A person who is open-minded enough to admit the possibility of intelligence beyond the earth should find no major difficulty in admitting what the Bible says about the living Creator. For example, the Bible informs us that rather than his having a material body of flesh and blood as we do, the First Cause is a spirit. (John 4:24) Thus, even though we cannot see him we can note what he accomplishes, even as scientists cannot see with their eyes the natural radio waves from space but still can receive and measure them.

Moreover, the existence of an intelligent Creator agrees with the wisdom and design manifest in the universe​—from the awe-inspiring stars and galaxies to the incomprehensible intricacies of the atom.

If there were ‘intelligent life out there’ in the form of a living, wise Creator, that would help to explain significant things about our life here on earth.

The more that scientists learn about other planets in our solar system, and about the universe as a whole, the more they appreciate how precisely designed our earth is for life. In the lengthy article “Life May Exist Only on Earth, Study Says” the New York Times pointed out: “At a distance of 93 million miles from the sun, earthly temperatures have supported life. But if our earth had been slung into an orbit only 5 percent closer to the sun, a runaway greenhouse effect would have turned the planet into something like Venus​—a cloud-shrouded planet with temperatures close to 900° F.

“If, on the other hand, we had been only 1 percent farther from the sun when the earth came into being, runaway glaciation would have enveloped the earth, and 1.7 billion years ago our planet would have become a barren desert similar to Mars.”​—April 24, 1979.

Nor is it simply a matter of proper temperature. There are many other necessities for life, including water and the proper atmosphere. A group of 30 scientists attending a University of Maryland meeting on advanced civilizations focused in on what is needed to support life. After admitting that ‘no planet outside of the solar system has yet been discovered,’ they noted: “Even if another planetary system is formed, there is no certainty it will produce a solid planet like Earth, which contains nearly 100 elements, including those essential to life.”

Also, even if the right conditions prevail, which is so on the earth and no other place that is known, life does not exist automatically. In fact, scientists cannot really explain how life on earth appeared, that is, other than draw the conclusion that it was produced by an intelligent Creator.

The August/​September 1979 issue of Technology Review called attention to this fact. It admitted that there is “a major gap” between chemicals needed to support life and even the simplest “living systems that could be called protocells.” Some scientists, employing their intelligence, skills and advanced laboratories, have been able to suggest how “prebiotic organic chemicals” (the chemical compounds needed for life) could be present on a primitive earth. “But,” the article said, “how to get from there to a living system which can translate, transmit, and act upon information . . . is what M.I.T.’s Alexander Rich called ‘the big intellectual stumbling block in the synthesis of life.”’

As additional research is done on life, the question looms ever larger, ‘How did life originate on earth in the first place?’

Some scientists faced with this problem are reviving a theory presented in 1908 by Swedish chemist Svante Arrhenius. It is called the “panspermia theory.” Basically, it holds that the earth may have been accidentally seeded by living cells that are wandering through the universe. Modernizing the idea a bit, Leslie Orgel of the Salk Institute and Nobel Prize-winner Francis H. C. Crick have suggested “directed panspermia.” Their idea is that an advanced civilization elsewhere in the universe deliberately may have “infected” the earth with life as an experiment. What do you think of that possibility?

It becomes clear, to some, that such theories really do not solve the question of life’s origin. They just sort of avoid the question by transporting the problem off into the distant universe.

Why do some speculate that the first cells or at least their major components arrived on earth from outer space? Because, despite their best efforts, scientists have been unable to prove that life can spring from nonliving molecules. In 2008, Professor of Biology Alexandre Meinesz highlighted the dilemma. He stated that over the last 50 years, “no empirical evidence supports the hypotheses of the spontaneous appearance of life on Earth from nothing but a molecular soup, and no significant advance in scientific knowledge leads in this direction.”​—How Life Began​—Evolution’s Three Geneses, by Alexandre Meinesz, translated by Daniel Simberloff, 2008, pp. 30-33, 45.

posted on Jan, 1 2019 @ 02:22 AM
I heard from microbiologist Dr. Johnson at Arizona state university that every day 800,000,000 million viruses rain down on the earth on every square meter of land.

Knowing what is possible with Panspermia and the ability of microbes to trade genes at will (Lynn Margulis SET theory) it seems entirely plausible that a good number of these viruses are not from earth. It seems like we will soon discover that there may be no such thing as extraterrestrial life in the sense that it would be incomprehensible to us as the universe is pretty straight forward in its magical life bearing activity's. You know as above so below kind of thing? Of course this is my anthropocentric view here on full display. Did you hear the news last year when a cosmonaut claimed he swabbed the outside of the ISS and found bacteria from out "there"? After this was announced I have not heard much more about it. Maybe it was de bunked and he made a mistake? (

I was recently in attendance at a workshop about the creation of a new kind of super microbially diverse compost discovered by Dr. Johnson and his wife last name Su. He calls it BEAM which stands for biologically enhanced agricultural management. You can take 2 pounds of this stuff and treat your seed for an entire acre of dry land barley and double your yield! Its called the Johnson-su Bioreactor if you are a farmer or a backyard gardener or an earthling then this is the stuff for you!! (

Anywho the good doctor is a microbiologist and has created this method with his wife through all kinds of synchronicitys. He works near Los alamos (WHOA!) laboratory and told me that his method was created from a series of haphazard discovery's that led to a new way of making compost that will revolutionize agriculture if only he can get the word out and get past the big ag folks. Soil productivity is not governed by the available soluble nutrients in soil like nitrogen phosphorus and potassium. It is entirely governed by the diversity and bio mass of the ratio of fungus:bacteria with a 1:1 being what you should shoot for at least with more fungus than bacteria being super legit.

He claims (And with solid data to back it up) that if only 40% of global agriculture switched over to this method of soil inoculation that us earthlings could remove all of the anthropogenic C02 from the atmosphere in like 5-10 years and from there on out we could transform the biosphere back to a higher level of biodiversity and yadda yadda yadda. This only requires a complete and total transformation of the way humans conduct themselves in relation to one another and their respective life support systems on the spaceship earth.

Hmmmm maybe just maybe the truth is that life is on every rock out there we could ever care to look at. Maybe in some kind of ultimate unimaginable stasis until bam wham it is on the right rock at the right time in that sweet Goldilocks zone....

Anyway happy new year and may the next year be fruitful in our discovery of the others.

posted on Jan, 1 2019 @ 02:28 AM

originally posted by: Lr103

“The dried-up tardigrades were aboard the FOTON-M3 spacecraft launched by the European Space Agency (ESA) in September 2007 and were exposed to open space conditions” “After their safe return to Earth, it turned out that while most of them survived exposure to vacuum and cosmic rays alone, some had even survived the exposure to the deadly levels of solar UV radiation”.
(Cell Press. (2008, September 9). 'Water Bears' Able To Survive Exposure To Vacuum Of Space. ScienceDaily. Retrieved May 6, 2014 from

That experiment, if I recall correctly, lasted several days, with the water bears OUTSIDE the spacecraft, and a significant number of them survived.

Does the bolded statement in that news article mean that the category "most of them" did not survive "the exposure to the deadly levels of solar UV radiation", therefore, they did not survive, i.e., they died in "open space conditions" where there is "exposure to the deadly levels of solar UV radiation" right along the "exposure to vacuum and cosmic rays"?

What do you mean with "a significant number", significant as in adding credibility to the philosophy/idea/notion of tardigrades travelling from one planet to another (as discussed in your various types of panspermia)? Have you considered how "several days" compares to the length of time it would take to travel between planets in just our solar system alone? Do you know if the experiment included an attempt to see if the tardigrades that "survived" the experiment were still capable of survival and reproduction on earth? If damaged in some way, aware of any details regarding the damage?

Poor tardigrades.
Is this really worth the money (I take it experiments in space are quite a bit more expensive than on earth)? Do you think the highly technologically advanced tardigrades are representative of some unknown unspecified and unresearched ancient form of micro-organism imagined in the minds of the accomplished speculator and entertaining and intriguing storyteller?

Programming 101:

Don't believe everything you hear (see my signature), especially if it's a very popular or popularized phrase or idea (see article in my signature under the heading "Use discernment" and "Do not just follow the crowd" and/or the previous page under the heading "Slogans and Symbols"):

Oh, btw, the phrase "life finds a way" is related to another phrase responded to by Isaac Newton mentioned after 2:34 in the video below: "Whence is it that nature does nothing in vain?" A modern way of phrasing it could be: 'Why is it that nature does nothing by chance' (or 'without purpose'), or the way I've heard it once by a prominent teacher (Arthur Horwich, Yale School of Medicine/HHMI): "It is said that nature leaves nothing to chance, ...".

More context:

Purposeful Design or Mindless Process? 1 of 2

Here's some of the "highly technologically advanced" machinery present in tardigrades that I referred to earlier, with some context regarding my previous comment in the 3rd video of this playlist (much more details later on):

Molecular Machinery of Life

Not that it's very important, but Arthur Horwich's comment is in one the videos about Chaperone-assisted protein folding on youtube. You can check if I quoted him accurately, the videos are a bit long though, and I'm not sure which one it was exactly (Part 1A or 1B, or one of the other ones that are also on youtube). The subject itself of Chaperone-assisted protein folding however, is quite interesting when considering some of the things brought up in the 3rd and subsequent videos in the playlist above (and it's present in tardigrades as well). As well as Newton's response to that phrase or when asking and answering the question, 'why?'
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posted on Jan, 1 2019 @ 02:42 AM
a reply to: whereislogic

i believe in God and I do appreciate "how precisely designed our earth is for life" and how it exists in the the ‘just right’ Goldilocks zone. This fact should not dismiss the probability that our Creator has allowed life to also spring up on other planets in this vast Universe. How vast?

As many stars as there are in our galaxy (100 – 400 billion), there are roughly an equal number of galaxies in the observable universe—so for every star in the colossal Milky Way, there’s a whole galaxy out there. All together, that comes out to the typically quoted range of between 1022 and 1024 total stars, which means that for every grain of sand on every beach on Earth, there are 10,000 stars out there.

The science world isn’t in total agreement about what percentage of those stars are “sun-like” (similar in size, temperature, and luminosity)—opinions typically range from 5% to 20%. Going with the most conservative side of that (5%), and the lower end for the number of total stars (1022), gives us 500 quintillion, or 500 billion billion sun-like stars.

That suggests that there’s a potentially-habitable Earth-like planet orbiting at least 1% of the total stars in the universe—a total of 100 billion billion Earth-like planets. So there are 100 Earth-like planets for every grain of sand in the world.

People speculate on life's origins, because man has a thirst for knowledge. Whether you believe that scientists theories are silly, or without merit, is determined by your own beliefs, which I respect.

I bookmarked an article that was written on how the world's religion's would react if in fact intelligent life was discovered on another planet. It mentions that all of our religious identities are Earth-centric ones. This quote from a rabbi made an impression on me:

“Religion is the human, social response to transcendence … Normative Judaism provides an excellent, time-tested path for sanctifying our minds, morals, and bodies, refining us as a people, improving the world, correlating our lives to the infinite God unfolding on the finite Earth.” His upshot? “I am Jewish. God is not.”

The rabbi’s theory can help us think about our neighbors in outer space, and our neighbors right here on this planet. If religion is a human response to divinity – even if that response is taught and initiated by divinity – then it’s obvious that those responses would differ according to the contexts in which they take shape. If Western Christians can learn to respect the religious experiences of good-willed aliens who are in their own ways responding to the divine, maybe they’ll be able to apply the same principles as they learn to live more peaceably with Muslims on Earth. And vice versa.

posted on Jan, 1 2019 @ 02:45 AM
a reply to: shawmanfromny


Anything that has a centralized source of information behind it indeed appears to be fully part of the system...

And so.....

posted on Jan, 1 2019 @ 05:11 AM
Me finishing decoding FRB121102 and telling SETI exactly when the next burst will occur and how many bursts will occur in that cluster.

posted on Jan, 1 2019 @ 05:22 AM
The mechanics are more complicated than just black or white.

What if aliens prevent alien bugs to infect us. In all scenarios aliens look like complete retards that are very aggressive. (a bit like russians in the msm propaganda machine)

If we talk aliens we talk alien civilization(s), probably they have (unlike us humans 2018) a moral and prevent us from being infected/attacked/raped/abducted/becoming liberal.

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posted on Jan, 1 2019 @ 05:24 AM
a reply to: shawmanfromny

So, my question is...could an alien organism, that arrived on the debris from a disintegrating comet or meteorite, cause an epidemic, or even a pandemic on our planet?


The flu outbreak which has struck down tens of thousands of sufferers may have come from outer space, according to scientists based in Cardiff.

Astronomers at the University of Wales are challenging the view that the outbreak was caused by the bug being passed from person to person.

Instead they blame the spread of the illness - which brought many hospitals to a standstill - on solar activity which brought cosmic dust into the earth's atmosphere.

posted on Jan, 1 2019 @ 08:48 AM
a reply to: Mendoparanormal

I heard from microbiologist Dr. Johnson at Arizona state university that every day 800,000,000 million viruses rain down on the earth on every square meter of land. 

I guess the big question is, where are all those viruses coming from?
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