Trump Tweets Image Of Obama Mueller & Opponents Jailed Warns Trials For ‘Treason’

So... on that note. I decided to check, and it doesn't really look like very many people have ever been executed for treason in the USA's history. (And most of them were arguable cases.)

en.wikipedia.org...eople_convicted_of_treason_against_the_United_States

So maybe we won't have a mass hanging.

Some people might get tried for lesser crimes. Hopefully we'll really send them to prison though!!!

a reply to: bloodymarvelous

Lots of things happening that don't follow precedent. On the negative side, the secret impeachment proceedings, for one.

a reply to: bloodymarvelous

These people aren't guilty of treason, they're guilty of sedition.

Bringing back dead posts aside...

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: bloodymarvelous

Lots of things happening that don't follow precedent. On the negative side, the secret impeachment proceedings, for one.

'Secret impeachment proceedings'

That's BS and you ought to know it. The impeachment inquiry is a fact-finding endeavor. It's not a trial. It's not even meant to be public until after the initial investigation has concluded. The exact same thing happened in the Clinton impeachment; closed-door impeachment inquiry hearings followed by public impeachment proceeding hearings followed by impeachment.

Stop pretending that this is some special circumstance that's never happened.

a reply to: links234

Just curious, were democrats kicked out of the "interrogations" and not allowed to review transcripts?

originally posted by: links234
Bringing back dead posts aside...

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: bloodymarvelous

Lots of things happening that don't follow precedent. On the negative side, the secret impeachment proceedings, for one.

'Secret impeachment proceedings'

That's BS and you ought to know it. The impeachment inquiry is a fact-finding endeavor. It's not a trial. It's not even meant to be public until after the initial investigation has concluded. The exact same thing happened in the Clinton impeachment; closed-door impeachment inquiry hearings followed by public impeachment proceeding hearings followed by impeachment.

Stop pretending that this is some special circumstance that's never happened.

The bulk of what was being determined in Clinton's case was all public knowledge. Everyone knew the name of Clinton's accuser. They knew the narrative of what had happened. (And most people really didn't want to know all the details about where or how Clinton managed to misplace his pants.)

The only question was whether the alleged misconduct did indeed happen.

Not what happened. Only if.


The problem here is that the information being presented behind those closed doors is important the public for reasons that go beyond the mere question of impeachment.

It's both stuff the public WANTS to know, and stuff the public FEELS IT OUGHT to be allowed to know.

Here two things have to be determined:

1 - Do the alleged events actually constitute a high crime or misdemeanor? (Are they even criminal, or even inappropriate actions in the first place?)

2 - Did the alleged events happen.


Schiff isn't letting the public weigh in and say whether it thinks Trump's actions deserve reprimand or not.

a reply to: Dfairlite

It's didn't happen to Democrats in the '90's and it's not happening to Republicans now.

a reply to: links234

Why is the house intelligence committee heading up this "impeachment inquiry" and not the judiciary committee who has done every prior impeachment?

a reply to: Dfairlite

There are six committees involved in the inquiry: Financial Services, the Judiciary, Intelligence, Foreign Affairs, Oversight and Reform, and Ways and Means.

a reply to: links234

Yet the intelligence committee is the one holding the "depositions" or whatever. The judiciary has always done that. It's their turf.

a reply to: Dfairlite

They're all holding hearings and speaking to witnesses. You're mostly hearing from intelligence because that's where most of the witnesses are. Intelligence officials who believe what the president did during his call with Ukraine was wrong. The House committees are investigating if it was wrong or not.

a reply to: links234

Intelligence officials who believe what the president did during his call with Ukraine was wrong

That's funny, we have a transcript of the call.