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Russia could actively annex the entire countries of Ukraine and Belarus and NATO
originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: rickymouse
Voting under gunpoint is not a free vote.
originally posted by: MindBodySpiritComplex
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask
Yeah, about the ramming of ships aka "accidents" and other incidents.
USS Donald Cook vs Sukhoi 24
USS McCain vs oil tanker
USS Fitzgerald vs container ship
USS Laboon vs scuba diver?
KNM Helge Ingstad vs oil tanker (Is it KNM or HNoMS?)
All of the above were equipped with the Aegis Combat System. With the exception of the norwegian frigate they also had Ballistic Missile Defense capabilities. Could be part of the same pattern. And those are only the incidents that became public. It might only be the tip of the iceberg. The USS Laboon incident is not very well known:
Mystery Persists Over Possible Incursion at Naval Station Norfolk
The Navy Is Still Baffled By The Mysterious Scuba Diver Reportedly Spotted At Naval Station Norfolk
This post will be debunked by "thread killers anonymous" in 3..., 2..., 1...
waterborne drones.
"puppet government"
originally posted by: AtlasHawk
What is America doing in Ukraine again? pretending to be fighting for Democracy and human rights again? Amercia is the one thats trying to stir up flares in the region by trying to provoke the Russians into responding, and judging from the videos of the accident.
It seems its the Ukrainian navy to be blamed here they are the ones trying to ram into the Russian navy ships going even as far by stopping in front of one those Russian ships.
What were the Ukrainians trying to achieve here by pulling this stunt? some kind of response? hoping that America jumps in?
originally posted by: IndyFront
The problem isn't Russia, ..... If anything its the U.S. allowing big countries to run ramshackle all over
originally posted by: angelchemuel
originally posted by: IndyFront
The problem isn't Russia, ..... If anything its the U.S. allowing big countries to run ramshackle all over
....erm.......I think you'll find the US has a far longer list of countries that it has run ramshakle over since WWII than Russia.......I could be wrong......nope....don't think so....
originally posted by: IndyFront
The problem isn't Russia
The people there voted to join Russia, there were lots of Russians living there and friends to those people.
Joining the west was not favored by lots of Ukranians,
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: rickymouse
The people there voted to join Russia, there were lots of Russians living there and friends to those people.
Even Russia's own Human Rights Council refutes this narrative. While the Kremlin's official claim is that something like 80% of the peninsula voted and of those 90% voted in favor of annexation, three actual numbers show only 25% of the peninsula voted and of those less than 50% voted in favor of annexation.
Joining the west was not favored by lots of Ukranians,
It was favored by the majority of the country. That's why Ukraine tried to join NATO in 2008, joined the Partnership for Peace program after they were denied, started passing legislation that would make them NATO compliant, and then started a nation wide protest when Yanukovych allowed himself to be bought by Putin.
originally posted by: angelchemuel
originally posted by: IndyFront
The problem isn't Russia, ..... If anything its the U.S. allowing big countries to run ramshackle all over
....erm.......I think you'll find the US has a far longer list of countries that it has run ramshakle over since WWII than Russia.......I could be wrong......nope....don't think so....
originally posted by: IndyFront
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: rickymouse
The people there voted to join Russia, there were lots of Russians living there and friends to those people.
Even Russia's own Human Rights Council refutes this narrative. While the Kremlin's official claim is that something like 80% of the peninsula voted and of those 90% voted in favor of annexation, three actual numbers show only 25% of the peninsula voted and of those less than 50% voted in favor of annexation.
Joining the west was not favored by lots of Ukranians,
It was favored by the majority of the country. That's why Ukraine tried to join NATO in 2008, joined the Partnership for Peace program after they were denied, started passing legislation that would make them NATO compliant, and then started a nation wide protest when Yanukovych allowed himself to be bought by Putin.
And yet none of this is relevant to the fact that Ukraine is a third-world corrupt #hole that just voted to become a military dictatorship under martial law. BOTH sides of this conflict are acting like #ing retards and refusing to speak to one another, ergo, they're both equally oppressors and both equally at fault, all the while the Ukrainian and Russian people suffer as their overlords seek to divide and conquer them.
originally posted by: rickymouse
OOOh, I totally agree with that last part, two irrate rams butting heads.
originally posted by: AtlasHawk
originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: rickymouse
Voting under gunpoint is not a free vote.
I could say the same thing about Kosovo ^